BS: Accountability in September -keep going!

Subject: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 10:56 AM

Sorry I didn't get this one started on time. Here's last month's

As ever, post goals, accomplishment, etc. just try to keep it positive and mostly what you have been able to do. Thanks!

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From: Joseph P
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 11:01 AM

Loads of swimming! We have been going and will continue to go about 3 times a week, Its great at getting the whole body working reasonably hard, good pre season training for rugby (have had shoulder injuries etc so want to start gently)

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: maeve
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 11:31 AM

Another 4+ mile ramble and climb to pick blackberries. Nightly walks around the gardens as I patrol for critters in the corn.

Brisk house work and the lifting of boxes.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 02:12 PM

More camper fabrication-- lots of walking, bending, lifting, stretching to customize camper and associated gear.

~S~

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From: LilyFestre
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 09:43 PM

Yoga: 60 Minutes

Tonight was the beginning of a new session of yoga classes. A woman came into class, waved hello and it took me a minute to figure out where I knew her from. Oh yeah. She used to come to yoga in the wintertime. I was talking to a friend when she came over and said, "WOW! You look great!" Okay, that made me feel good but then after class I was putting my sneakers on and she was chatting with the instructor. I was headed for the door when she turned to me and said, "I just wanted to tell you that I can't believe the difference in the definition of your arms and legs since last March!" I smiled and said thank you. My yoga instructor says, "OMG, her calf muscles are crazy...show her your calves!" And I did...she said, "I know! I was looking during class and decided I wouldn't want to ever meet her in a dark alley!"

She made my day!!!!!!!!!!!! Progress is slow, but it's progress, no?

Michelle

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From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 03 Sep 08 - 12:02 PM

Thanks for that Lily - it brightened my day!

I have my third 'fat club' meeting tonight. Missed it last week, but the week before I'd manage to lose a whole half a pound! Big Fat Hairy Deal... I can lose more than that by just going to the bathroom!

Two weekends of forced gin drinking may be telling though... although my trousers keep falling down so maybe it's just 'shifted in transit'...

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: maeve
Date: 03 Sep 08 - 12:59 PM

Several walks around all the veggie gardens at night, and then countless trips between house, garden, and farm stand to restock. Much up-and-downing, twisting, turning was involved.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Sep 08 - 01:32 PM

Back to damaged foot...argghhh....going to call the personal trainer/nutritionist and set up an appt.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 03 Sep 08 - 04:02 PM

Whoo hooo!! I lost 4lbs since last time - and I suspect most of those vanished in this last 5 days.

Gin is obviously the way to go!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: maeve
Date: 03 Sep 08 - 07:37 PM

Whoo hoo Liz!

And kat- Oh no! Please take care of that foot!

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 03 Sep 08 - 09:50 PM

60 minutes pool, 60 minutes camper fun.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Sep 08 - 12:23 AM

Way to go, Liz!!!

Thanks, maeve...I'll be good, I promise.:-)

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 04 Sep 08 - 03:49 AM

Can't be doing with damaged feet... I've done my fair share in my time (but have so far avoided fracturing anything myself) so do what the docs say, rest up and Chairobics is the way to go - sit vigorously!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 04 Sep 08 - 02:24 PM

Camper, 30 minuyes hard labor, bread and water. It'll be another 60 later tonight when we pop it back up.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: maeve
Date: 04 Sep 08 - 08:41 PM

Three bathtubs of laundry scrubbed clean, rinsed, wrung, and hung - muscle work for arms, hands, abdominal muscles, back, legs. Weight resistance training too, eh?

Garden work, veggie picking and harvest basket hauling.

Night walks around veggie gardens, up road, past fiend and back.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 05 Sep 08 - 03:28 AM

Maeve - do you ever sleep?

I'm going to haul the bench press out of Limpit's room later and do a couple of curls... I feel the need.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: maeve
Date: 05 Sep 08 - 06:32 AM

LOL Liz. I sleep when I can. Not often enough.

I just noticed the type in my previous post. " past the fiend" ! The "field " is what I intended to write. I would hope I'm not missing the chance to chase out a fiend just because I'm looking for raccoons and deer..

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: maeve
Date: 05 Sep 08 - 11:09 AM

Two more loads of heavy laundry this morning, then out to pick blackberries and the elderberries the birds haven't gotten yet.

Then it'll be a few hours of hauling tired plants away from the stand to the benches in the back yard. Got to clean out the greenhouse....I need a nap but it's not on the list.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September - keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Sep 08 - 11:56 AM

I have done it. I joined Weight Watchers online. They have a free first week offer so I figured do it now. Just figured my first day and it was great! I am surprised at what is allowed!

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: maeve
Date: 05 Sep 08 - 01:55 PM

Hurrah, Kat! It isn't accessible on my computer, but I know WW has an outstanding reputation for effective, healthy weight and lifestyle changes. We're rooting for you!

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Sep 08 - 07:33 PM

Thanks, maeve! I think it's basically what I have been doing but different combos and amounts, plus it figures all of the points for me. I don't mind counting calories, but there is something psychological which words for me when I see a food only counts for 1 point out of a daily total. It's quite interesting the effect I am feeling mentally.

I also went to the shoe guy and had him adjust my shoes, both pairs, some more. Found out the coumadin levels were too high, thus the bruising on my feet, etc. I did more walking in and out of stores, med office, etc. than I have in a while, so there's a little bit more exercise today to boot.:-)

I am going to get one of those pedal machines. The kind you can put on the table and pedal with your hands and arms or put on the floor to pedal with your legs and feet. The shoe guy said it would be a good strengthening exercise much better than beating myself up about getting on the treadmill, which no one is recommending right now.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: maeve
Date: 05 Sep 08 - 07:43 PM

That's a good plan, Kat. Being kind to yourself goes well with facing a reasonable challenge.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 06 Sep 08 - 12:11 AM

Kat, that's partly why I joined 'Slimming World'... there's a group meets just up the road - not far enough to drive or bus, so I get excercise going to it. It's lots of sitting around clapping people who lost half a pound this week sort of thing, but there's a good support network and the advice is good, sound stuff.

It works on the Red and Green day principle - eggs and most fruit and veggies - raw, steamed or boiled - are 'free'. You can munch on them all day long with no worries. Then there are other freebies for Green days, including wholemeal bread, pasta, nuts and pulses, plus a choice of up to four from various meats (with fat removed and cooked with no extra fat), noodles, brown rice, sea food, fish, beans and dairy products. Red days have more protein and Green days more fibre.

In addition, there are various points given for other foods, known as synergous or 'Syns'. You can have up to 10-15 of these points a day - so the odd square of chocolate isn't going to do any harm.

It seems to rely on the cutting down (but not total elimination) of fats and processed white sugar/flour/rice. Carbohydrates are allowed but are limited, unlike the Atkins diet which has screwed so many digestive systems.

Once you get into the habit, it's hard not to find anything you don't like, and so far, the rest of the family haven't complained much. In fact, Limpit loves the amount of egg noodles we've been getting through!

For me it's slow going, because I'm a skinflint and don't want to waste the food we already have - industrial sized boxes of white flour pasta and rice for the price of a kilo of wholemeal or brown pasta and rice - but it's already had an effect.

I had to lose weight due to Non Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease - I was getting stomach pains, feeling bloated and 'squashed up', I had a cough that wouldn't go away, and a blood test revealed an abnormal liver function. It's fatty deposits on the liver which could lead to non alcoholic related cirrhosis and worse.

Well.... since I started this new eating plan, the pains have subsided, the cough has gone and I no longer have trouble with certain clothing pressing against my abdomen - it still presses but no longer hurts. I've yet to have another blood test to check the liver function, but I feel more energetic and comfortable than I have for many months. I've actually had the desire to go walking, rather than just the requirement.

My goal - and the doctors' suggestion - was to lose 2 stones by Christmas. Quarter of a stone down and still 3 months to go sees me on track for this... and so far I'm not feeling the 'I shouldn't be eating this' guilt that so many other D***s and eating plans give people. An important part of this is the support from the group. Someone phones me once a week to ask how I'm doing, we swap recipes, have quizzes, whine about families and just encourage each other to carry on.

Good luck with it Kat - take to heart that old Maine proverb - the journey of a thousand miles begins with getting off your ass!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Eye Lander
Date: 06 Sep 08 - 03:08 PM

Well done Liz keep it up.

I am supposed to be a Weight Watcher but struggling with depression and always go straight to the food! but I shan'tgive up my membership though.   Trying to stay positive.


Jillie

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Sep 08 - 01:40 PM

LtS, thanks! That sounds like a really good plan and easy. As to being a skinflint...what price your health?:-)

Jillie, keep it up! My first two days I went over the daily points but they are offset by the weekly extra points and I still have plenty of them left! So far, so good. Have to get the activity back up.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 07 Sep 08 - 01:47 PM

I prefer to use my scales at home though... they say I've lost half a stone (8lbs) instead of the 4.5lbs the 'official' scale says!

Much more encouraging.

I forgot to say that the intake of certain foods is limited - 2 slices of wholemeal bread so you can still have your sandwich or toast, spoonfuls of nuts and seeds to munch on... small amounts of cheese and milk - doubled if you use low fat/skimmed varieties... it all adds up to being able to make tasty meals and not feel the guilt of having to weight or count every bit of it.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Sep 08 - 01:55 PM

Hmmm...I looked at their samples recipes, Liz. What is "Quorn?" It looks like a lot of cooking and variety, neither of which I care much for...but maybe I should! I like simple, quick, easy to make meals. On WW, you can eat anything as long as you count the points which is easy to do with their online tracker. On the other hand, I like what you've posted, too. I'll stick with WW for now and see how it goes. Thanks, though!

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From: LilyFestre
Date: 07 Sep 08 - 06:21 PM

Kayaking: 8 miles, some riffles, hard paddling in spots but...OH WHAT FUN!!!   Went with 2 friends, met up with 2 other friends...had a BLAST!!! Signed ourselves up an October kayak run and also for a Rails to Trails group outing, 12 miles or so! I can't wait...it's going to be SOOOOO beautiful!!!!!

Michelle the Sunburned (even with 70 SPF!)

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Sep 08 - 06:24 PM

Oh let's see, chores all day and I'm on the way to the pool for an hour or two of aquarunning and BackHab.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Eye Lander
Date: 07 Sep 08 - 06:25 PM

bloody hell Lily, where do you get your energy from, I am sooo impressed.

Jillie

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Sep 08 - 11:49 AM

QG - 30 minutes

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 08 Sep 08 - 07:20 PM

Yoga: 60 Minutes

Jillie,

   I wrote you a long and detailed answer but you know what? The answer is simple. I get my energy from good nutrition and the activities I do. There are some yoga practices that leave me flying for hours (while others are designed to help a body slow down). A brisk walk when I least want to re-energizes me. A challenging & thrilling kayak run leaves me full of life and wanting more. It seems like the more I do, the more I want to do.

    I work hard, play hard and sleep hard. That's all. :)

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 Sep 08 - 09:30 PM

Yours truly did the whole camper pop-up today be herself. Except the jacks, because we aren't jacking it this time for use, but merely airing it out in prep for a good exterior wash and armor-all to close it for winter and putting the last of the washed laundry into it for next year.

Then I rode the John Deere to give Sadie a good run. I mean, to train her to run with it safely. Haven't been on a lawn tractor since the mid-80's. Dontcha love the timing-- grass-cutting season here is nearly ended and all. :~) No, I couldn't possibly plow the driveway this winter, honey..... yet.... I don't think.....

Next foray will be ponying both Sadie and Faulkner together. He invented it first with Hardi. Let HIM train Sadie to share a leash!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 03:28 AM

Quorn is a vegetarian product that resembles meat or soy protein in texture and 'cookability' but is made from edible fungi. It's used as a meat substitute in a lot of vegetarian dishes. It is quite tasty but can produce intestinal gasses, which have to come out somewhere.... :D

Low in fat, calories and other nasties, it's versatile and quick, easy and do make I fart.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 07:42 AM

Well there was another mile and a half walked... a gentle amble with a friend from church chatting about alsorts. By far the best sort of walk.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 07:38 PM

Yoga: 60 Minutes

I was late getting out of bed this morning so when it came time to get dressed, the fastest thing for me is always a skirt and top. I grabbed the first one in line and found that the skirt was too big. Way too big. I pinned it and decided it would be fine for the day. The short sleeved sweater also seemed big to me so I asked DH what he thought. He thought it looked good. I told him that it just felt big, I mean...look how it hangs down here. He looked at me and said, "Honey, that's because your breasts stick our farther than your belly now..it's SUPPOSED to hang like that."

*Stunned silence and then hysterical laughter for us both*

You know, it was just one of those times when I wasn't sure if I wanted to kick him or kiss him!

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Sep 08 - 10:53 PM

LOL...one day I will be able to say the same!

For the first time since i hurt my foot over a month and a half ago, I went to the store by myself and walked around about ten minutes shopping without use of a cart, just a cane and my foot didn't hurt when I was done! Progress!

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Becca72
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 11:38 AM

Had another appointment with the nutristionist this morning. I was expecting bad news. I have been working 10-12 hour days for weeks and weeks now as we just cannot get ahead at work. I've had no time during the day to walk with my coworker and by the time I get home at night I don't want to hear what the treadmill has to say. But I lost 1/2 pound!! Much better than expected. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 11:45 AM

So Kat, don't overdo the joyful use of foot!

45 minutes aquajogging. New specs here now, so back to daytime workouts now I can drive myself into town.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 Sep 08 - 06:21 PM

30 minutes slow jogging after an hour of BackHab Plus. What's the Plus? I ain't tellin', but it hurt! It sent me back to BackHab to build some more muskles to be able to do it cuz it was fun to try anyhow.

Then an hour of dry toothbrushing to remove fray-green fur from the camper canvas before tomorrow's big washday. I made sure to do a lot of it lefty, because that's the arm and shoulder that need to be stronger, and followed that by toting in the heavy portapotti and cleaning it out. Lift, pour, add clean water. Lift, pour, add clean water. Repeat.... and repeat.... followed by Neti-potting the nose!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 12 Sep 08 - 11:00 AM

Good fro you, Becca and Susan.

Still taking it easy with my foot, B-U-T...after one week of Weight Watchers, which is dead easy, I am happy to say I have lost THREE pounds!!

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Becca72
Date: 12 Sep 08 - 11:24 AM

Good on ya, Kat!!

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 04:03 AM

Another half mile walk, 2mins of stomach crunches yesterday, and my scales say that despite eating a whole pizza (that's about 60 pudgy points when my target is 15....), I appear to have lost another 4lbs....

I can feel the difference in my chins. There are only two of them now, instead of the three and half that were developing.... :D

I need to do some more walking around next week. I've been a bad, bad girl this week.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Eye Lander
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 04:53 AM

Keep going Liz, take my hat off to you for finding the inspiration
Kat - take it easy on the foot, Michelle - wow

Jillie

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 12:26 PM

Since it's quite the effort to get her to the treadmill, I'm counting getting Sadie onto the treadmill as well as her time on it since I'm working with her during that time as well: 10 minutes and a happy dog.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 13 Sep 08 - 05:31 PM

Nothing like 'lose weight or make a curable condition incurable' to motivate a girl into eating sensibly!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 12:09 AM

Small benchmark today: Hardi didn't need to bring the van over after we shopped, and I just walked out to where it was parked without thinking twice.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 10:52 AM

I think I need to serious join in this effort. I got a really good look at myself in the hall mirror last night. Too much ice cream this summer.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 04:11 PM

I took a personal day on Friday and went to Kripalu to do Pranakriya yoga with Michael Carrol (Yoganand) ....it was an AMAZING weekend with some tough yoga (and partner yoga that was incredibly fun, bendy, stretchy and even spine lengthening!) and new breathing techniques that left my body feeling more alive than it has in a long time.....it's amazing how much you really can open your body and how much that lets your spirit soar and your energy levels can hit the roof....lots of churning but it's all good. I don't think I've ever sweat so much in my entire life and enjoyed it. There was a good deal of discussion as well about energy within the body...some of it I still need to think about...it was a very indepth conversation with a lot to ponder.....all good....and interesting...very interesting. I won't even go into the food...which is all organic with a great deal of it being supplied by the local farmers....amazing...just amazing. There was also a drum circle on Saturday night complete with wild, anything goes dancing that I absolutely loved. I can't wait for the next trip!

Jai Bhagwan!

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 04:13 PM

Walked - 20 minutes

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 06:03 AM

Birthdays and anniversaries are not good for eating plans!

A weekend of getting my Pudgy Points up to 60+ when it should be between 10 and 20 a day has not helped. I suspect I'm on cabbage water and prunes for the rest of the week....

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: MAG
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 11:21 AM

What's this? A whole thread on diet and exercise? Where have I been?

Last spring the Doc got on me because my diabetic numbers were not good (read: very bad). Drastic action was called for.

A 12 step program for food control. None of the things that cause my blood sugar to spike: sugar, white flour, white rice, potatoes.

The potatoes hurt: I love 'em. Lately I have been experimenting with 1/4 potato at a time. Nope; doesn't work.

Exercise is part of the Rx, so I have been using my Y membership which has tended to languish. Elliptical trainer for a warm up, then a round on the nautilus circuit. Then I get to reward myself with the hot tub.

Have lost 22 lb; down a total of 35 lb. from my highest weight. Down 2 sizes. Since early spring. Same again, and I'll feel like a normal human being.

Insomnia hasn't been helping lately, and the shorter days are keeping me out of the garden more.

Thank you for this thread. Nothing works like support.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 11:23 AM

Here I thought I was enjoying a regressive day(s) off from workouts, only to find that after a memorial service last night I'd planned to attend, Hardi would have a meeting.... so I had to go to the pool for 30 minutes of BackHab and 45 of Ai Chi!

When I came home Faulkner gave me ten minutes of strength training. Oh yeah-- Hardi was Nordic-Track skiiing and F didn't want to stay on the treadmill, so I held him next to Hardi (Lord God to F) to get F used to the track noises. Gentling him down. He wanted to be there, but his stay/go instincts were in conflict. He used to ski with Hardi but flunked out, so this is the next best thing. No poles (scary sticks!), so we hope eventually he'll volunteer to treadmill alongside as Hardi skis.

Dogs can't post their own stats here. :~) I know a CAT could.... but I'm rambling.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 12:18 PM

:-) Susan

MAG, we have a new thread each month; so far, each one has had "accountability" in the title. Well, at least, that's what I thought until I went looking for the first one. All I can find it month "3" and on. I think I started the first one in January, but heck if I can find numbers 1 and 2! Anyway, welcome and congrats on your success. Oh! Now i Know! I said I would delete postings, in the original thread, at the end of each month. Later on decided to keep each old thread and just start a new one each month.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 02:20 PM

Kat, did you de-clutter your thread memory? :~)

Hardi's prolly gonna make me go to the pool AGAIN tonight. I'm enjoying a perfectly lovely cloudy day (strike that) week (strike that) MONTH with my byooteeful widescreen TEEVEE, but no! Choir tonight... that means I could ride along... that means I will... that means working on those blanketty blank HIP muscles.... aw, my suit's even hung up ready to put on....

Say, how can I tell, without an x-ray or doctor visit, whether the stiff hip is unstretched muskles or a congenitally curved spine/pelvis bone thing? And the correct answer is-- no matter, still have to stretch and work on range of motion, nowhere near the max possible yet, I'll know when I get there....

And that means POOL.


Ya know, this workout thing ain't always fun in the anticipation. I'll enjoy it when I get there, but (crap!!!) I really oughtta plug in that sun bulb that got unplugged when I took the puder cords down before vacay.....

Niiiice and darrrrk in here......

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 04:14 PM

Yesterday: 60 Minutes Vinyasa Flow
Today: 60 Minutes Yoga on the Ball and some inversions :)

Michelle common referred to by the yoga teacher as the "Inversion Freak" LOL What can I say? I like to be upside down!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 16 Sep 08 - 07:59 PM

No pool-- obstacle course toward outlets resulting in heavy recliners to move, instead.

But I plugged in the full-spectrum lamp at least.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 06:27 PM

After 10 Sun Salutations and my body was plenty warm, I was able to get into my very first unassisted bind. Here's what it looks like:

Front View of Bind

Back View of Bind

I know it doesn't look like much but give it a try...WOO HOOOO! I can't think of any other time in my life when I would have been excited to tell someone that I got into a bind!!!!

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 06:30 PM

Okay, the first link doesn't take you to where it should, let's try that one more time:

Front View of Bind

:) Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 10:41 PM

Well, I am slowly getting back into moving. Today, it was housework, a lot of up and down as I dusted, lifted and carried junk to where it really belonged, etc. About two hours in all. Feels great to *feel* like doing it and then actually doing it!:-)

It dawned on me suddenly that with Weight Watchers I no longer feel any concern or guilt over what I eat and I love what I am eating. It's all stuff I was eating anyway, just in a different way...mainly giving myself permission by sticking with the points and watching the weight drop away. over four pounds since a week ago Friday last. I am happy.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: maeve
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 11:18 PM

Up and down the ladder and reaching out to paint countless times today touching up the new shed stain and doing final hammering to attach the boards before nailing on the battens. Worked on it all day.

After supper:
Scrubbing and washing and rinsing laundry.

Scrubbing dishes and pots, sorting veggies, loading up the compost and taking it out. Cutting and freezing corn- another 9 pounds frozen.

Heavy frost expected tomorrow night, so I'll be picking or covering all of the veggies except for cabbages, kales and Chiogga beets. Also must pick apples (Macouns) and unnamed pears a neighbor has for us.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 11:47 PM

15 minutes BackHab, 30 minutes Aquarunning at 160BPM+, 15 minutes Ai Chi. Attic chores.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: GUEST,LTS pretending to work
Date: 18 Sep 08 - 02:41 AM

Another 2lbs lost (total of 6.5 lbs loss since Aug 1st) despite a weekend of curry, pizza and Black Forest gateaux.

And another half mile walked briskly this morning. It's too chilly at 6.00am now to dawdle at the bus stop.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 18 Sep 08 - 08:05 PM

No activity today other than work (which in itself is sometimes a workout) due to a cold that has settled in my chest. I am, however, down 3.3 pounds this week.

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Eye Lander
Date: 19 Sep 08 - 06:13 AM

Hey Michelle, well done. When are you updating your photo file? You must look different now from when we last saw it.

Jillie

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 19 Sep 08 - 06:42 AM

Hey Jillie,

    I have emailed a new photo to be posted here in the photo section but last I checked, it wasn't up yet.

:) Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Scooby Doo
Date: 19 Sep 08 - 06:47 AM

Well done for losing the weight.Keep it up.

Scooby

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: GUEST,LTS pretending to work
Date: 19 Sep 08 - 07:30 AM

Ah.. keeping it up.. that's a problem I'm having this week.. keeping my trousers up.

I may have to invest in some more elastic... it's a bit too soon to start taking them in I think.... and it's more likely to be the elastic - that was the problem with my knickers.

However, another half mile yesterday carrying bags of fruit and veg from the market, reversed this morning sans half the fruit.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: MAG
Date: 19 Sep 08 - 10:17 AM

When my pants got loose I invested in a very long belt. I'm still using it, and the pants, but they're pretty saggy.

Tomorrow is my 60th birthday; maybe I'll invest in some new pants??

Too tired to do much of anything this week, and have lost time off of work due to sleep issues.

Off to work where I will start the day with a pot of espresso ...

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Sep 08 - 11:19 AM

Happy Birthday, MAG!

In two weeks, I have lost 4.4 pounds! Very happy about that!

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 19 Sep 08 - 06:50 PM

WOO HOOO Kat!!!!

    No formal activity today but I did teach all day, work at the spaghetti dinner and am now off to the Lynard Skynard concert when I plan to dance my ass off and have some FUN!!!

WOOOO HOOOO!!!!

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Sep 08 - 06:56 PM

Thanks!

Two hours running around, walking, shopping, and playing with Morgan oughta count for something!

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Sep 08 - 05:23 PM

Another pound gone!

Walking and pushing a cart whilst doing so - 20 minutes

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Sep 08 - 05:29 PM

Well, I romped around another funeral today-- the amount of walking oughtta count for something. I should measure those aisles and count how many times I hit 'em. At least a dozen per funeral, often a lot more; and if it includes graveside-- that can be big mileage.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 20 Sep 08 - 05:32 PM

I was going to start wearing my pedometer but it needs new battery. You ought to wear one, Susan...then all those steps would be counted and you'd know...all those aisles, etc. do count!

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: gnu
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 01:34 PM

I broke the 40 pound barrier today. Been stalled at 40 pounds down, and NO way I could break it... since May. Only by one pound, but it's a new start.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 02:01 PM

Way to go, gnu!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: MAG
Date: 22 Sep 08 - 11:42 AM

Glad you're off that plateau, Gnu. Keep at it and eventually your body just gives in and lets go the weight.

I'm freshening this thread so it will be here later today after I have climbed back on that horse and know how much ground I lost on a binge this weekend.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 22 Sep 08 - 07:38 PM

Ashtanga Yoga: 60 Minutes
Moving boxes from house into storage: 60 Minutes (17 trips upstairs)

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 23 Sep 08 - 07:51 PM

Yoga: 60 Minutes
Moved 11 more boxes out, cleaned out the darkroom, carted all that stuff downstairs. I have no idea how many trips I made up and down stairs today....a bunch anyway!

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Sep 08 - 03:48 AM

Ah yes.. I'm discovering that weekends are the killer... another blurge this weekend with no excuses this time, just sheer laziness.

Still, I'm half a stone lighter than I was 6 weeks ago and my trousers AND knickers keep falling down. It can't all be the elastic.

Maybe the walking to the train station is the key... it's certainly saved me some money in bus fares!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: maeve
Date: 24 Sep 08 - 09:28 AM

Walking quickly around the lumberyard, several packages of roofing shingles shifted, up and down the ladder, hammering, bending and reaching. Stood for half an hour admiring a very nice washing machine. Dreamed of watching dirty laundry wash itself clean.

Harvesting beans and tomatoes, prepping and freezing beans, lots of standing, walking, etc. Kneeling to do laundry, vigorous use of the scrub boards, rinsing, wringing, hanging our heavy jeans and towels...

I eat small portions of good quality food, seldom get sick, with physical work from early in the morning unti late at night. My metabolism is still slow and the excess weight won't shift. Either I must eat even less or work even more or both. The nutritionist says our meals and portions are right for us.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 24 Sep 08 - 08:01 PM

More yoga today. :)

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 24 Sep 08 - 10:04 PM

Terrible backsliding today... involved in some filming for an advert for a chain of supermarkets, the 'Christmas' ads.. lots of mulled wine and chocolates. I don't eat mince pies so I was filmed eating chocolates. Of course, there were many takes, and for continuity I had to have a plate full of chocolates... so of course, I ate chocolates...

However, I must have walked another mile and my trousers are still falling down so I'm pretty sure things aren't too bad.

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 Sep 08 - 11:08 PM

30 aquajogging, 30 Ai Chi

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 07:25 PM

Down 3.4 pounds this week!

Michelle :)

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 07:57 PM

Despite hardly any movement and going over on my points one day, I know I have lost some more. Tomorrow is my weigh in day.

I managed 4 lousy minutes on the treadmill. My feet still hurt,but the good news is I switched shoes and my hips and lower back feel much better. I am going to get one of these or, something like it. I used one in cardiac rehab and it was okay. My body is really upset about not moving more...I can tell it's raring to go...now if I could just get the nerves to chill out. I feel discouraged...still using oxygen from the pneumonia and sore feet. I keep thinking with weight loss it's got to get better, right? That seems logical, so that's what I will concentrate on. Thanks for listening while I *think* out loud!

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: maeve
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 08:11 PM

Four hours of moving plants and pots, clearing the corn patches, hauling approx. 100 pounds of composting materials from the house to the north compost pile, moving mulch hay, weeding the asaparagus bed, getting cider apples and cooking pears under cover, etc.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 06:39 PM

Yoga: 60 Minutes

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: maeve
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 07:12 PM

I spent most of the day preparing for the rain and wind that has begun moving through our area. I harvested the Rattlesnake beans for drying (and forgot the Scarlet Runners), shucked the multicolored flour and meal corn varieties and hung them to dry.

Carried in most of the tomatoes, weeded weeded weeded, brought in anise hyssop and lemon balm (melissa) to pick the leaves for winter tea, Covered the Garden Peach and Black Cherry tomatoes to keep them dry and ripening.

And I slept for two whole hours.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 10:14 PM

Hi Guys,

   Not long ago, someone asked for new pictures. I sent some to put up here in the photo section but for whatever reason that hasn't happened just yet. Here's a link to some of my progress photos...the newest one taken maybe 3 weeks ago.

Progress Photos

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: maeve
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 10:40 PM

I am impressed, and so happy for your successful life change. No wonder you are so active in your pursuit and enjoyment of an active lifestyle.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 12:22 AM

I've dropped five pounds, so far!

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 08:52 AM

Dogs, treadmill: Faulkner 5 minutes, Sadie 15. Me, managing them. All under full-spectrum lighting. Incorporating this into the daily routine. Treadmill-hating Faulkner, watching Sadie and hearing happy-pants: "Me too! Me first next time!"

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 04:08 PM

Walking - 30 minutes!

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 28 Sep 08 - 08:31 PM

40 smokin' AJ minutes, FAST.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 11:04 AM

Sadie TM @2.5MPH, 56 happy minutes. Faulkner TM @2.0MPH, 5 nervous minutes. Me, straightening up the space and planning my use of it.

Hardi also has a Nordic Track Pro skiing machine out there, that he uses nightly with fast work and intervals. We bought the treadmill used, and the ski-er was given to him by a parishioner who's moving. They are both gym quality.

We have all sorts of hand weights, cuff weights, a Bullworker, a door-mounted springy thingie, music machines, heavy-duty fans, and (soon), cold air. I need to set some wipe-towels out there, a stock of refilled water bottles, and a dog-water bowl! The chart paper for our progress notes and affirmations is out there already.

It has a recliner for workout breaks and a couch the dogs are allowed to pounge on as well. Ypto? Yes, sort of: pounce/lounge. Chez Pounge. (stroke- brain synthesizing)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: MAG
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 12:26 PM

I seem stuck at 220 lb -- same thing I said to Gnu; stick to food plan and sooner or later the body WILL let go of the weight.

Gym today; I try to do the anutilus circuit every other day, plus a warmup and cooldown on the elliptical trainer (less impact than the treadmill).

One kitten will now climb on my lap but they all scatter when I pet them. Mama cat not with them anymore.

Today's project is shampooing the living room rug. My (inside) cat has a thing for knocking stuff over, including my large sodas. Plus laundry and dishes. We'll see how far I get.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 01:18 PM

Me, TM @1.7MPH, 10 minutes in front of sunbulbs.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: maeve
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 01:34 PM

Housecleaning complete with vacuuming, box moving, general cleaning...

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Eye Lander
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 01:56 PM

Ok you lot!!! Own up. WHO has lost 3 1/2 lb. No need for a reward, I found it sitting on my bathroom scales this morning.

If you wish to claim it back PM me.

:-(((

Jillie

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 02:53 PM

I seem stuck at 220 lb -- same thing I said to Gnu; stick to food plan and sooner or later the body WILL let go of the weight.


I'm quoting this not to single out MAG, but to make a couple of general comments-- learned the hard way-- that may help someone else.

1. It may be that you are actually muscling up but that the clothing change isn't obvious yet. If so, you HAVE lost fat, and THAT is the muscle that will soon start to burn off the rest of the fat (because your metabolism will rise). The first spot to measure to see this is not the scale-- it's a high-waisted line around you, just below your boobs. For women, it's where the lower band of the bra would sit. For men, it's where the bra band would sit if you put a bra on. Why? Because that is the most accessible spot where fat has built up that is not also subject to the sags of gravity that may fool your measuring tape. THAT is the measurement to take periodically to watch your progress. The rest of the bodyfat melts at different rates, depending on your body type. So changes in clothing size may or may not always reflect your progress accurately, but this one measurement WILL.

2. It may be that your RATE of food comsumption does not encourage a long, slow burn of calories all day, overwhelming your body's insulin production. It cannot hurt, and may help, to divide each meal into two portions. Have the first half, a half-hour earlier than your planned meal. (Before you get hungry, in other words.) Have the second half about 2 hours later. If this must be done at work, it will take some time before you accumulate a lot of creative approaches that will work for you, but try it and you will start to see fat melt.

3. It may be that the COMPOSITION of your food plan does not encourage the long, slow burn. It's easily fixed: a fruit, a carb, and a protein in EVERY meal or snack. A whole-fruit, not a fruit juice. It can be canned (drained), or dried, but you need the fiber in it for the slower burn. How much? Half a banana, half a grapefruit or less, half an orange, a whole plum, etc. (Think plum-size for your fruit portion.) Or it may be that you do not process carbs well. IF YOU ARE EXERCISING you need those carbs, so plan how much you need, apportion it out over the whole day, and eat it. If it gives you cravings for more, that are not in your plan-- eat the whole-grain, high-fiber substitute that will slow down the burn.

4. It may be that your portion sizes are too big. The simplest way to fix this is to measure out a week's worth of meals ahead of time and eat only what you have planned to eat. If still hungry at the end of a meal, add the hated salad with plain lemon juice and herbs as dressing, to fill you up. If you have divided your total planned food for the day into small enough quantities per meal, you will find that you really do not get that hungry. Make friends with air-popped popcorn. Use only olive oil as the fats for each day because they're good for you, and use at least a total of 2 tablespooons of that each day because otherwise your fat-soluble vitamins will not absorb in your body. A little spray of it here, a little there, and your food will taste fine. And here is a tip on cheese-- don't buy that horrible skim-milk crap. (The only dairy that's yummy, nonfat, is yogurt!!!) Buy the good stuff, but buy it feather-shredded. You will use so much less, while it looks like a lot, that you will not believe how long it takes you to finish up the large bagful. Keep it in the freezer so it's not in plain sight in your fridge and it will stretch even longer.

5. It may be-- and this is usually the doctor's or the dietician's FIRST accusation-- that you are eating or drinking things not in your plan. Keep a diary just for one week, just for yourself, to check what extras you may be drawn to. And then plan healthy subsitutes you will be happy to have instead.

6. If ALL THAT doesn't start to work within a couple of months, it's time to get the endocrine system checked out. It may also be time to make a consutative appointment wiht a trainer to make sure you are exercising in the right range for your goals. You may be exercising so hard that you are in an anaerobic zone-- the one where you burn nothing and end up starved? Check it out. You may have gone at this so hard that you're not burning any fat!

7. Food is your friend. Make friends with it. Learn all about it, and fill up on the parts of it that are good for you. Treat is like a necessary evil, or, conversely, like your new love.

8. DON'T try to lose too fast. All you will do is confuse yourself into the next yo-yo of gain (physiologically), and burn up heart muscle. Aim for an initial loss of 10% of your weight. Then maintain that awhile. Only when that maintenance is easy should you go after the next 10%. That way you benefit your hypertension, you allow maximum skin shrinkage, you protext your cardiac status, and you build the habits into your life.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 03:16 PM

BTW, that ten minutes on the treadmill is a real accomplishment: enough time has elapsed since I did it that I know now that I have developed the muscles, metabolism, and bone density to do it with no afterpain. New shoes along the way with special shock-absorption helped too. And that means I can do more.

It also means that I can accept Hardi's nightly invite to go TM while he skis-- which we have been wanting to do in tandem for...... when did I get that TM?..... since May of 2007.

So when I say that things may take some time-- well, I really DID learn eveything I know, the hard way. Despite illnesses, injuries, strokes, and the vagaries of clergy-life-schedules-- it can be done.

So, everyone else-- HANG IN THERE.

Tonight, aquarunning. And more TM when we get back.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 08:23 PM

Hey Mag,

    I feel your pain. I've been at a standstill for months. It's frustrating and yet really, what are the options? I was working with a trainer doing strength training so my head knew that I was building muscles (which I KNOW boosts my metabolism and muscles weight more than fat but I was STILL frustrated), keeping a food journal, upping my activity...all that stuff. Nothing. It got so that when I weighed in (I do Weight Watchers), I was getting really pissed off. I decided to not weigh in for 6 weeks...just to continue going to the meetings and staying mindful. I wish I could tell you that when I stepped on that scale at the 7 week mark that I had a loss, but nope. It did come though, later than I would have liked, but a loss did come. Now, I have to say also, that in the meantime while the scale was not budging was when my clothing sizes were dropping away so I knew SOMETHING was happening...it just wasn't at the scale. My best advice is to be patient with yourself, try new things, take an honest look at your intake and activity levels and see how your clothes are fitting.

My activity for the day: Moving boxes and 60 minutes of power yoga (and she kicked our asses tonight...my mat was so slippery with sweat that I slid halfway off during child pose [rest time])!!! It's all good...very, very GOOD!

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: GUEST,LTS pretending to work
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 06:22 AM

Weigh in for me tomorrow... let's see how an evening of eating chocolates and a weekend of party food has affected me. The bad news is, my trousers are no longer falling down, but the good news is, my stomach hasn't hurt for several weeks - one of the symptoms of fatty liver disease that I was trying to get rid of....

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: maeve
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 06:25 AM

I'm glad you are feeling better, Liz.

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: MAG
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 12:15 PM

Yep, I'm toning up just fine. The weight isn't budging at the moment.

Sounds like for everybody things are on the up.

I tried Northern Lights in Canada for a 10,000 unit SAD light; they haven't returned my call.

What is the best source?

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: wysiwyg
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 12:23 PM

MAG, the SAD thread current now contains light specs info and cheaper alternatives.

Last night, a 6-aisles funeral romp, 30 minues AJ, and 5 more minutes TM, moving up to 1.9MPH. Not looking for speed-- working on posture improvements from BackHab to keep them on land. Goal is easy movement with correct form, and duration. The land work is just to build bone and endurance, and to keep Hardi company. Not the main aerobic event, in other words-- that's still in the water for cardiac/brain safety.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 05:52 PM

A whole mile and a half walked today... to and from the station AND the length of Tottenham Court Road Trouble is, the bookshop at the end of it took all my money.

But at least I have something to read on the train tomorrow morning!

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: katlaughing
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 07:22 PM

NEW THREAD Our Ninth Month!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Accountability in September -keep going!
From: LilyFestre
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 07:56 PM

Yoga: 60 Minutes

Michelle