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MacColl - Lloyd - E&S popular ballads

Jim Carroll 13 Oct 08 - 03:01 PM
RTim 13 Oct 08 - 03:33 PM
GUEST 13 Oct 08 - 03:44 PM
dick greenhaus 13 Oct 08 - 03:57 PM
GUEST,Reinhard Zierke 13 Oct 08 - 04:11 PM
Liam's Brother 13 Oct 08 - 04:48 PM
Roberto 14 Oct 08 - 12:03 PM
Fred McCormick 14 Oct 08 - 12:19 PM
johnross 14 Oct 08 - 10:07 PM
Jim Carroll 15 Oct 08 - 03:41 AM
GUEST,Shimrod 15 Oct 08 - 04:18 AM
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Subject: McColl - Lloyd - E&S popular ballads
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 13 Oct 08 - 03:01 PM

Can anybody help?
I am trying to get a copy of the booklet notes to the Riverside series English and Scottish Popular Ballads (MacColl and Lloyd) - I will happily swap for anything I might have of interest. Any help will be gratefully received.
I was told that it was possible to purchase album notes for early releases - is this the case?
Thanks in anticipation,
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: McColl - Lloyd - E&S popular ballads
From: RTim
Date: 13 Oct 08 - 03:33 PM

Is this the recording that now appears on Topic? As E&S Folk Ballads TSCD480 released in 1996. The songs incl. Henry Martin, The Baron of Brackley, Reynardine, Bramble Briar - just to name the first 4 of 18. The Singers incl. Llyod, MacColl, Louis Killen, Anne Briggs, Mike Waterson & Norman Kennedy. If so - I copuld scan the booklet and send you the info as an e-mail attachment. The Booklet is 12 CD size pages, incl he cover. Tim Radford


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Subject: RE: McColl - Lloyd - E&S popular ballads
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Oct 08 - 03:44 PM

No, English and Scottish Folk Ballads TSCD480 is an expanded reissue of the same titled 1964 LP Topic 12T103.

Jim asked for the Riverside 8 LP series The English and Scottish Popular Ballads of 1956.

Reinhard


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Subject: RE: McColl - Lloyd - E&S popular ballads
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 13 Oct 08 - 03:57 PM

Topic owns the set, and is planning to issue a "Best of" someday. CAMSCO has a verbal agreement with Topic that will allow us to issue the "Rest of" when the "Best of" appears.


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Subject: RE: McColl - Lloyd - E&S popular ballads
From: GUEST,Reinhard Zierke
Date: 13 Oct 08 - 04:11 PM

By chance I found a cheap 5CD set on eBay last month, called Folk Songs and Ballads with Woody Guthrie, A.L. Lloyd, Ewan MacColl, Margaret Barry and Susan Reid. The Lloyd / MacColl tracks are the 9th volume of the 8LP Riverside set mentioned above, Great British Ballads Not Included in the Child Collection. There aren't any liner notes or sourced mentioned though; but as far as I know this is the first CD issue of these tracks.

Reinhard


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Subject: RE: McColl - Lloyd - E&S popular ballads
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 13 Oct 08 - 04:48 PM

Hi Jim!

I have the Washington series. Washington, as you may know, was a Riverside subsidiary. Send me a message at folkmusic@prodigy.net.

All the best,
Dan


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Subject: RE: MacColl - Lloyd - E&S popular ballads
From: Roberto
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 12:03 PM

Jim, I've sent a PM to you. R


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Subject: RE: MacColl - Lloyd - E&S popular ballads
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 12:19 PM

"Topic owns the set, and is planning to issue a "Best of" someday. CAMSCO has a verbal agreement with Topic that will allow us to issue the "Rest of" when the "Best of" appears."

Dick, sorry, I should have contacted you direct when I heard, but Tony Engle emailed me just a few days ago. The selective reissue of Ewan MacColl contributions to the Riverside series has been held up for a good while due to remastering problems. Thankfully the job is now complete, but Tony wants to hang fire until next year - Topic's 70th year - when he plans to issue it along with several other reissues of prestigious Topic singers.

Once again my apologies for keeping you waiting so long, and many thanks for being so patient. This thing has been in the can far longer than either Tony or I ever anticipated.


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Subject: RE: MacColl - Lloyd - E&S popular ballads
From: johnross
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 10:07 PM

I have the five-album Riverside set. Each album has a ten- or eleven-page booklet of notes bound into the sleeve. The booklets are full-size (12 x 12), so it's not possible to scan them on my page-size flatbed scanner. It would require taking themm someplace with a bigger scanner and making about 50 pages of copies -- a tedious process that would probably take an entire afternoon to complete.

The notes on the albums say "Produced in association with The Folklore Press," so I strongly suspect that the notes in the record booklets are the same as the headnotes in the 1956 Folklore Press edition of Child:
here.

Your best bet for finding those notes would probably be to ask your local library to find the Folklore Press edition of Child for you through inter-library loan. Or you could buy a used set -- there are several listed at used.addall.com ranging from $150 to $600 for the three volumes (containing the five original volumes).


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Subject: RE: MacColl - Lloyd - E&S popular ballads
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 03:41 AM

johnross,
Thanks for the suggestions - I think my problem is sorted. Once again I'm staggered at the generosity of people on Mudcat - thanks all.
I have had a copy of the records - sans notes - which I was given by Ewan and Peggy back in the sixties and which I had occasion to re-visit recently.
Some time ago, when they came up in discussion, I expressed doubts as to the wisdom of re-issuing them - I know Ewan said he couldn't bear to listen to many of his early recordings as his approach to singing had changed so much over the years.
I have to admit that I was wrong and that a re-launch of the set is well overdue - they are magnificent. Bronson referred to them as "The most important event in the field since the publication of Sharp and Karpeles' Southern Appalachian collection" - I would happily go along with that.
I had heard that Topic was intending to reissue the set in full, but am disappointed that it is only a Readers (or Listeners) Digest version made up of somebody's idea of 'the best of....' Pity they didn't let Dick Greenhaus issue the set in full - they certainly merit it (and there won't be another opportunity - not in my lifetime anyway).
God knows, there are few enough ballad albums nowadays, Brian Peters' excellent selection is the only one that springs to mind.
Thanks again folks,
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: MacColl - Lloyd - E&S popular ballads
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 04:18 AM

May I mention another set of recent ballad recordings that might be in danger of being overlooked?

This is Alison McMorland and Geordie McIntyre's CD, 'The Ballad Tree' (Tradition Bearers CD LTCD 1051, 2003). In my opinion this excellent and well worth seeking out.


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