Review: A vote for McCne/Wrzlbkr one for Hitler!

Subject: A vote for McCne/Wrzlbkr one for Hitler!
From: Art Thieme
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 03:11 PM

Joe the plumber said today that a vote for Obama is a vote to destroy Israel.


Folks there MUST be a way to combat this shit going down.

Subject: RE: Review: A vote for McCne/Wrzlbkr one for Hitler!
From: Amos
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 03:17 PM

The only way is to keep insisting on true statements, documented evidence, and the continuous rejection of the hysterical, idiotic, nebuklous, and the rejection of FUD.


A

Subject: RE: Review: A vote for McCne/Wrzlbkr one for Hitler!
From: Wesley S
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 03:24 PM

So now Joe the not really a plumber is being used as a political expert???? Someone tell him his 15 minutes are up. Or give him a show of his own on Fox News.

Subject: RE: Review: A vote for McCne/Wrzlbkr one for Hitler!
From: Riginslinger
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 03:55 PM

The funny thing about having Joe do it is, he's not really accountable to anyone. He isn't employed by a media outlet and he doesn't hold an office.

Subject: RE: Review: A vote for McCne/Wrzlbkr one for Hitler!
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 04:19 PM

He is accountable to whomever is paying his way to go on the campaign trail for McCain; probably McCain. They are so desperate they are resorting to this kind of "expert" to stump for them? Don't worry, Art, it will all be over with, soon. The McCain camp and Palin camp, two separate identities according to Palin, are imploding/exploding...the rats are leaving the sinking ship and the plumber has been called in...but oh wait, he ain't a real plumber and there ain't no plumber can stop this ship from going down, anyway! McCain sold his soul but he can't pick for shite.

Subject: RE: Review: A vote for McCne/Wrzlbkr one for Hitler!
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 04:33 PM

Reminds me of something I read 35 years ago...

"The society which scorns excellence in plumbing as a humble activity and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because it is an
exalted activity will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy: neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water."
John William Gardner 10/8/1912 - 2/16/2002

Joe the plumber doesn't seem to have credentials in either...

Subject: RE: Review: A vote for McCne/Wrzlbkr one for Hitler!
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 04:42 PM

Excellent, Bill. I have just sent a copy to Rachel Maddow...who knows maybe she will use it!

Subject: RE: Review: A vote for McCne/Wrzlbkr one for Hitler!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 05:53 PM

It's odd that someone who has done nothing but emphasize his solid support for Israel all through the campaign should be labelled as a threat to Israel. ;-) Amazing, really. Joe obviously knows things about Obama that not even Obama himself would ever have suspected! (sarcasm)

Subject: RE: Review: A vote for McCne/Wrzlbkr one for Hitle
From: Alice
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 06:23 PM

Godwin's Law or Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies

Joe the Plumber obviously doesn't understand Obama's policies if he is saying Israel will be destroyed, but to bring in "Hitler" or "Nazi" into this I think is an example of Godwin's law.


---------see link to Godwin's Law---------
    "As a Usenet discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one."

Godwin's Law is often cited in online discussions as a deterrent against the use of arguments in the reductio ad Hitlerum form.

The rule does not make any statement whether any particular reference or comparison to Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that one arising is increasingly probable. It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin has argued[4] that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact. Although in one of its early forms Godwin's Law referred specifically to Usenet newsgroup discussions,[5] the law is now applied to any threaded online discussion: electronic mailing lists, message boards, chat rooms, and more recently blog comment threads and wiki talk pages.

Subject: RE: Review: A vote for McCne/Wrzlbkr one for Hitler!
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 06:25 PM

I tend to agree with Godwin.

Subject: RE: Review: A vote for McCne/Wrzlbkr one for Hitle
From: Alice
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 06:31 PM

Someone should write a song about Godwin's Law. Good song thread challenge.

Subject: RE: Review: A vote for McCne/Wrzlbkr one for Hitler!
From: Art Thieme
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 10:34 PM

I intended for it to be a prime example of Godwin's Law. Obviously, to me, at least, bringing Hitler into this thread was purely outrageous, as Godwin said. It always will happen, eventually, when stuff heats up over time.

I wanted it there for all to see along side of J. the P.'s inane statement connecting Obama with his uttered absurdity. McCain's people know that all they must do is put a dumb stupid-ass accusation thing out there on the table, and some fools will, most certainly, take it as truth and give them their votes. People, we have dumbed down way below the lowest common denominator. --- Art

Subject: RE: Review: A vote for McCne/Wrzlbkr one for Hitler!
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 10:48 PM

The **IDEA** of intelligence/competence tests for would be voters is interesting, but the historical use of such things was ALWAYS prejudicial and designed to reject racial/cultural classes, not genuine idiots.

*wishing*

Subject: RE: Review: A vote for McCne/Wrzlbkr one for Hitler!
From: Art Thieme
Date: 28 Oct 08 - 11:40 PM

dumped what I just wrote. I'm gone. Think what you will. ----