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Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady
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Subject: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk Song From: Mtn_Songbird Date: 14 Jan 09 - 04:06 PM Hi! I'm looking for the lyrics to an English folk song called "The Beautiful Landlady" which I heard done by group Magpie Lane on their album "A Taste Of Ale". Thanks!!! |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk Song From: ClaireBear Date: 14 Jan 09 - 04:14 PM That CD was an accompaniment to a Roy Palmer-edited songbook of the same name, containing that song (and all the others on the CD) plus many more. You might look for that book in your library. Also, I seem to recall that the words to the song were on the CD liner? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk S From: Anglo Date: 14 Jan 09 - 11:42 PM No, not with the CD. The notes say the text is an early 19th c. street ballad. You might try a search on the Bodleian broadside collection. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk Song From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 15 Jan 09 - 01:16 AM Pitts of Seven Dials printed it; there's a copy in the Madden Collection, but not at the Bodleian. I wouldn't quite call it a folk song, as it seems never to have been found in tradition. Roy Palmer got the words from the Madden broadside copy and set them to a tune that the Hammond brothers noted from a Mrs Webb at King's Norton, Worcestershire, in 1906. She used it for a different song, 'Such a Beauty I Did Grow'. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk S From: Anglo Date: 15 Jan 09 - 02:11 AM Thanks, Malcolm. I don't have the Palmer book - not many of his missing in my library however :-) |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk S From: Anglo Date: 15 Jan 09 - 02:12 AM And anyway, what are you doing up at 6 in the morning?????? |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk Song From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 15 Jan 09 - 03:47 AM Putting together a small selection of obscure music for Dave Eyre's internet radio prog on Friday, since you ask. I picked up a remainder copy of the book not long since, and will see about typing up the text later on. The book is well worth buying, of course; the CD I haven't heard, but sleevenotes etc can be seen at http://www.bejo.co.uk/bejo/html/albTaste.htm. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk Song From: Barry Finn Date: 15 Jan 09 - 05:54 AM And you're up at 2:12, you're no better than the rest of us. Good night & good New Year Barry |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk Song From: Steve Gardham Date: 15 Jan 09 - 12:19 PM Malcolm, I think the Pitts broadside to TBL actually designates the tune 'Such a beauty I did grow' so Roy had a precedent. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk S From: Charley Noble Date: 15 Jan 09 - 12:47 PM I'll look forward to seeing the lyrics for this one as well. Landlady's Daughter |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk Song From: Mtn_Songbird Date: 15 Jan 09 - 12:52 PM Hmmm, sorry for my ignorance but what is the Bodeleian collection? The Madden Collection? I live in Montana, USA. I'll see if my library carries that book but somehow i'm doubtful. Sigh. Thanks for the help, anyway! |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk Song From: Q (Frank Staplin) Date: 15 Jan 09 - 03:12 PM Bodleian Collection- once one tries it out, one will go back again and again for its content of countless old songs, 19th c. and earlier: Bodleian Library |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk Song From: Jim Dixon Date: 17 Jan 09 - 09:10 PM This is all I could find about the Madden Collection, from Cambridge University Library's web site:
18th-19th century broadside ballads, collected by Sir Frederic Madden and mounted in guard-books. To be consulted on microfilm. Card catalogue by title in the Munby Rare Books microfilm area. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk Song From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 17 Jan 09 - 09:32 PM Microform copies can also be consulted at various other libraries. A basic listing, together with informative introductory material, can be seen at http://microformguides.gale.com/Data/Introductions/30330FM.htm. The songs contained in the collection are listed in greater detail in the Roud Broadside Index, and a full index of the microform copy is at http://microformguides.gale.com/BrowseGuide.asp?colldocid=3033000&Page=1. The same information can also be found as a single rtf document if you look hard enough. I don't, however, find any reference to the relevant Pitts broadside. Perhaps Steve will tell me where I am going wrong. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk Song From: Jim Dixon Date: 17 Jan 09 - 11:05 PM Here are the liner notes for this song from the web site of Beautiful Joe Records: 10. THE BEAUTIFUL LANDLADY (Di lead) An early nineteenth-century street ballad. The tune used was collected from a Mrs Webb of Malvern, Worcestershire, in 1906. Attached to the song is an eighteenth-century dance tune, THE ALE WIFE AND HER BARREL, from "A Selection of Scotch, English, Irish, and Foreign Airs, adapted for the Fife, Violin or German Flute"; printed and sold by I. A. Aird, Glasgow (c.1780). |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE BEAUTIFUL LANDLADY (from Roy Palmer) From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 18 Jan 09 - 06:33 PM Mrs Webb didn't live at Malvern, but at Bath. Henry Hammond rented rooms from her while visiting the area. She was from Kings Norton, and had learned her songs in Worcestershire; though county boundaries have changed since then and Kings Norton is now in Warwickshire. The Beautiful Landlady I come before you with a blush My beauty's thought so rare And from an infant such my charms They made the people stare Such a beauty I did grow Such a beauty I did grow. My shape was never match'd before Nor ever will be, poz And you may guess by what I am The kind of thing I was. I learnt my manners so complete That widows, maids and wives They all declar'd they never saw Such manners in their lives. Now of that house I'm landlady So you must suppose And double my attraction, for I draw both BEER and BEAUX. My beer I have from Golden Lane From Booth's too I have in That filthy stuff I cannot name Tho' you may call it Gin. All flock around me and admire I such a figure cut The BEAUX they calls me charms Intire The Ladies say all-butt. Permit me now to take my leave And judge from what you see And then you'll own that Venus was A different thing from me. Printed between 1802 and 1819 by J Pitts, Seven Dials, London. Madden Collection, Cambridge University Library. Quoted here from Roy Palmer, A Taste of Ale. Lechlade: Green Branch Press 2000, 67-68. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk S From: Charley Noble Date: 18 Jan 09 - 08:12 PM Thanks for posting the lyrics, Malcolm. Landlady's Daughter |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk S From: GUEST Date: 05 Feb 09 - 09:56 AM Thank you, thank, you thank you!!! You've no idea the trial it can be to collect old English and Celtic songs when you live halfway 'round the world! Cheers! |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk Song From: Steve Gardham Date: 05 Feb 09 - 05:48 PM Malcolm, My Pitts copy is from the Baring-Gould collection in the BL. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady-English Folk Song From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 06 Feb 09 - 03:44 AM Thanks, Steve; that explains it. It looks as if Roy inadvertently cited the wrong collection. That being the case, my note above 'Madden Collection, Cambridge University Library.' should be emended to 'Baring-Gould Broadside Collection Vol.3, No.142, British Library.' |
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Subject: Tune Add: THE BEAUTIFUL LANDLADY From: Mick Pearce (MCP) Date: 14 Feb 09 - 12:02 PM And for completeness, here's the tune. Mick X: 1 T:The Beautiful Landlady B:A Taste of Ale - Roy Palmer S:Words: Pitts Broadside, Baring-Gould collection, BL S:Tune: "Then I was a beauty, as everybody knows", collected by HED Hammond from Mrs Webb at Bath, 1906 M:4/4 L:1/8 K:C G|ccc>d ccE w:I come be-fore you with a blush, D|CDEF G3 w:My beau-ty's thought so rare G|Gccc ccc w:And from an in-fant such my charms, c|defg e2 w:They made the peo-ple stare dc|d2 c2 c2 A2|(_B>cAG F2) w:Such a beau-ty I did grow,____ EF|G2 c2 e2 d2|c6|] w:Such a beau-ty I did grow. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady From: Steve Gardham Date: 14 Feb 09 - 05:54 PM Hi Mick, Do you fancy some more ABCing for Yorkshire Garland please? We've got the next lot of funding and we're adding another 40 songs to the website. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady From: Mick Pearce (MCP) Date: 14 Feb 09 - 06:01 PM Steve That's fine - send me the songs! Mick |
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Subject: Lyr Add: THE YORKSHIRE BEAUTY From: Jim Dixon Date: 24 Jan 11 - 12:48 PM A song titled SUCH A BEAUTY I DID GROW is mentioned in Hardy's novel Tess of the D'Urbervilles. It is one of the songs sung by dairymaids "to induce the cows to let down their milk." I went looking for such a song, and I'm not sure this is the right one, but at least is has the same refrain: From Davidson's Universal Melodist, Vol. 1 (London: G. H. Davidson, 1853), page 390: (That book also has musical notation for the melody line.) THE YORKSHIRE BEAUTY, OR THE MISFORTUNE OF BEING HANDSOME Written by John Major 1. You've heard of Nykey Numscull, of Yorkshire, I'll be sworn; I reckon my misfortins from the time that I were born. CHORUS: Such a beauty I did grow, did grow, did grow, Such a beauty I did grow. 2. For when I was a little boy, at two or three years old, The people all admir'd me, as I have since been told. 3. My mother, she was frightful as the sun wou'd tan my skin, So she slouch'd my hat o'er eyes and all,—down to my very chin. 4. Then I were sent to school, in another year or two; But I ne'er cou'd larn my letters,—folks they made so much a-do. 5. But, as for edication, Mother said as that were naught; For the lad cou'd make his fortin, ay! As quick, as quick, as thought! 6. Yet, ere I came to man's estate, my chance were a'most gone, For among so mony lasses, I cou'd never fix on one. 7. Then the girls pretend to hate me, lord! The cause were plain to see; 'Twere such a disadvantage, when they stood beside o' me. 8. O! the plague of being handsome there's but very few as knows; I cou'dn't walk about, but folks cried, 'Look! see—there he goes!' 9. Some said it were a shame I wasn't made a prince's page; And some said I were fitter to be—show'd up on a stage! 10. So, tir'd quite wi' being praised (upon my life, it's true), I wish'd mysen as ugly—ay! as—any one o' you. 11. Thus teas'd and vex'd on all sides—lord! what cou'd a body do? I fretted sick, and made mysen—just—what you see me now. |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady From: Charley Noble Date: 24 Jan 11 - 01:21 PM Neat! Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Beautiful Landlady From: Jim Dixon Date: 25 Jan 11 - 12:31 AM Not that John Major. |
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Subject: Lyr Add: SUCH A BEAUTY I DID GROW From: Jim Dixon Date: 25 Jan 11 - 02:31 PM This might be the original song. From Davidson's Universal Melodist, Vol. 1 (London: G. H. Davidson, 1853), page 206, where there is also musical notation for the melody line: SUCH A BEAUTY I DID GROW 1. When I was a little boy, Some twenty years ago, I was the pride of mammy's heart. She made me quite a show, Such a beauty I did grow, did grow, did grow. Such a beauty I did grow. 2. Straight hair I had and goggle eyes, With such a roguish leer, A broad flat nose turn'd up beside A mouth from ear to ear; Such a beauty I did grow, did grow, &c. 3. My mother prais'd my little charms, And when she did me fill, Lest she should spoil my mouth with spoons, She fed me with a quill; Such a beauty I did grow, did grow, &c. 4. But when I came to riper years, And should have studied books, I sat out at the kitchen-door, A watching of the rooks; Such a beauty I did grow, did grow, &c. 5. So elevated were my thoughts, No wonder I look'd wise When my sweet mouth was always open, Catching of the flies; Such a beauty I did grow, did grow, &c. 6. Abroad, to take the summer air, Sometimes I us'd to go,� The children, screaming, ran away, And cried 'a bug-a-bo!' Such a beauty I did grow, did grow, &c. 7. At mountebanks a candidate, I beat them all dead hollow. And thrice I won the gold-laced hat By grinning thro' a collar; Such a beauty I did grow, did grow, &c. 8. Now ladies, if you're smit in love, I pray do not disguise, But commend me to a handsome wife, That in her pretty eyes For a beauty I may go, may go, may go, For a beauty I may go. |
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