BS: Hull.

Subject: BS: Hull.
From: Gurney
Date: 02 Feb 09 - 09:43 PM

Car theft capital of England, according to the beeb.

Just pulling your legs gently, guys.

Tell us the good things about Hull.
Lots of folkies, obviously.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 02:04 AM

I spent a week in Hull one Friday.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Sooz
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 03:09 AM

I spent four years at the University.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Paco Rabanne
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 03:53 AM

I lived there for 10years and got mugged once, and had my car broken into seven times.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 04:49 AM

I lived there for nine years. I also got mugged (made the front page of the Hull Daily Mail) and had two bikes stolen.

Great place - but not for softies. I will return.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 04:58 AM

If you haven't discovered Hull yet - what are you waiting for!! The magical and awe-inspiring experience of 'The Deep' aquarium will amaze adults and children alike, where you can walk through sub-marium tunnels where sharks literally swim over your head. Hull's choice of museums and attractions makes it one of Yorkshire's top city break destinations. The celebrated Ferens Art Gallery boasts artwork by David Hockney, Henry Moore and numerous old masters.

Clustered around Hull's centrally placed Museums Quarter are four of the city's eight free to enter exciting museums. Museum gems include Hull Maritime Museum exploring Hull's fascinating maritime and fishing industry heritage. Wilberforce House was the birthplace home of Hull's famous son, and anti-slavery campaigner William Wilberforce. The house is now a museum exploring Wilberforce's life and work alongside exhibits on the history of slavery.

Other Hull museum treats include the Streetlife Transport Museum, preserved ships now living history museums including the 1960s sidewindeer the Arctic Corsair and the moored Spurn Lightship in Hull's marina.

Hull's city centre shops are hard to beat, with a choice of specialist and designer fashion shops alongside big retail names.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Darowyn
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 05:06 AM

They have got a bandstand named in memory of David Bowie's guitarist.
The Mick Ronson memorial Bandstand is in a little park just outside the town centre.
It is the best shopping centre in East Yorks.
It's a nice marina, though getting in and out can be an issue. The Humber is not a friendly river.
Cheers
Dave

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 05:10 AM

Hull's Ferens Art Gallery has a well established history - the gallery first opened in 1927. This award winning Yorkshire art gallery is one of the regions best. The impressive collection includes a fine selection of old European masters, particularly Dutch works by the likes of Jacob van Ruisdael (1628-82) renowned for his landscapes. Frans Halls' Portrait of a Young Woman is the gallery's particular hightlight within Galleries 1 and 2 housing the old masters. Victorian and Edwardian art on display in Galleries 5 and 6 includes gems by artists such as Newlyn School notable Walter Langley and find pieces by Hull's most acclaimed marine artist John Ward (1798-1849) in Gallery 10. For showcases on contemporary 20th century art move to gallery 7. This splendid permanent collection is further enhanced by consistent changing temporary displays, workshops and events.

Hull Museums and Art Gallery, Ferens Art Gallery, Queen Victoria Square, Kingston upon Hull, HU1 3RA. Tel. [phone].

Hull boasts two premier theatres. Historic Hull New Theatre on Kingston Square first opened its doors in 1939 (a mammoth achievement to open a new theatre during wartime and the credit is largely due to the vision and efforts of Peppino Santangelo who maintained his connections with the theatre until retirement in 1951). Hull New Theatre has consistently changed with the times, yet today retains its links with the past with annual Christmas pantomime a particular favourite alongside musicals, drama and ballet. For forthcoming programme and a comprehensive history of the theatre checkout Hull City Council's Tourist guide. Hull New Theatre, Kingston square, Hull, HU1 3HF. Tel. [phone].

The Hull Truck Theatre has gone from strength to strength in recent years, and is soon to get a new home - moving from the Methodist Hall on Spring Street to a spanking new much larger modern venue on Ferensway. As well as theatre at the new venue other facilities will include bars, a cafe, educational facilitties and a larger main auditorium seating upto 440 people. Read more on Hull Truck's new building due for opening 2009 via their webguide. Hull Truck's programme of drama, music and comedy is cutting edge, and the new building promises to be a hub for Hull's growing exciting programme of festivals, especially the city's jazz festival. Hull Truck Theatre, Spring Street, Hull, HU2 8RW. Box Office Tel. [phone].

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Michael
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 05:11 AM

We moved to Hull in 1974 for 3 years, Mary to Uni, me to get a job. We are still here and have no desire to leave.
Two of our children went away to Uni (Leeds and Manchester) but came back here to work.
One daughter's partner came from Bristol to Hull Uni and he decided to get a job here too.
None have ever been mugged, burgled or had a car stolen.
'Nuff said in my opinion.

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 05:16 AM

Woops silly me forgot to mention the world famous harriWattsband are from Hull - harriWattsband
They are playing @ Stripped Acoustic Wellington Inn Russell Street Hull this coming Thursday night....see you there maybe

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: ossonflags
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 06:05 AM

Old Mother Riley died on stage at the long gone Tivoli Theatre and is buried in Hull. David Whitfield, Brian Rix, Maureen Lipman, Tom Courtney, The Watersons, Mr.Fromull all hail from 'ull;

aaaaaaaaand not forgetting that universally recognised fantabulouse band from 'ull, Punch The Horse?

Playing Durty Nellies this very Friday

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Will Fly
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 06:25 AM

Been to 'Ull once - with a party of students in '64 to be shown around the special collections in the university library. The introductory talk was by the Librarian - Philip Larkin - who gave us a superb 20-minute talk on jazz! Wonderful.

Hull's telephone system is still private, I believe. Once the doyen of UK telephone systems, I hear it's now falling slightly behind in the broadband area because it's still private. Rumour or true?

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 07:36 AM

Was at the university from 1977 to 1981. Now get there at least once a year for the Sea Fever in September. Huge transformation in that time but I love the place.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: gnomad
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 07:38 AM

I went there in 1959 aged 5, and finally left in 1981 though I visited regularly for another 10 years until what remained of the family moved out.

It is a bigger place than many folks realise, not a little east coast fishing village as at least one person I met believed. Much of it (though by no means all) is well laid out and very nice to live in. Being flat and quite spacious it is a good city for cyclists, I never even learned to drive until just before leaving. Bike theft was a major business back then, though I was never a victim myself.

I don't know whether it still holds the UK record for the highest proportion of council housing, and the largest single council estate in the country, but it had those distinctions in the late 70s. This was a result of a number of factors: 1) a major inter-war attempt at improvement by the city fathers, 2) massive bomb damage during WW2 and 3) major "slum-clearance" programmes mostly in the 60s.

Hull has two main accents, broadly divided between east and west along the line of the river Hull; the glottal stop is prominent in both. Though not as well-known as the Merseyside accent the sound is as distinctive, some would say as ugly, but each to his own.

While there I was part of the first experiment with mass oral vaccination against polio when the entire city population was dosed using sugar lumps. It was later rumoured that Hull was chosen partly because of a relatively high local incidence of the disease, but mainly because the place could be isolated from the rest of the country fairly easily in the event that the whole thing went horribly wrong. As it came out a number of people had an unpleasant reaction (including my Dad's boss, Philip Larkin) but it was judged a success. I suspect that a modern population would be much less willing to act as guinea-pigs.

Other noted people with a Hull connection include Amy Johnson, Andrew Marvel, John Godber, Alan Plater, Les and Maggie from Hull, Keith Marsden, even Robinson Crusoe gets a plaque in Queens Gardens. The Beverley gate was the site of one of the first overt acts of the civil war.

Come on folks, pay the place a visit.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 09:11 AM

John Harland - antiquary and editor of 'Ballads and Songs of Lancashire' was born in Hull.

I wish they hadn't bulldozed the Zoological!

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 09:48 AM

And don't forget Hulls famous ' curry ship ' where jOhn used to work.

Dave H

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: theleveller
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 11:33 AM

It's where one branch of my family come from. They were sailors and one kept a pub. My great x5 grandfather was a whaler and was reputed to have been lost in Greenland in the 1830s. Then my cousin turned up an old newspaper cutting which said that he'd come out of the Black Boy on a windy night, somewhat the worse for drink, and had been blown into the river and drowned. When his body was recovered (from Chapel Staithe, I think) they took it straight back into the pub. Ironically, in my youth I also used to get a bit merry in the Black Boy (and other pubs) but managed to avoid a watery death.

Best thing about Hull - it was the home of the Watersons and have had many a good night at the Old Blue Bell. Other good thing is that Clive Sullivan Way makes it easy to leave.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: greg stephens
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 11:36 AM

What happened to Sir jOhn?

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Linda Kelly
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 05:04 PM

As a city it is extremely attractive, which is a surprise to many people, with a marina and european influences in architecture. It also has a fish pavement, and the Civil War was plotted in the Old White Hart. The old town has a number of interesting pubs and museums. Its population are down to earth, and despite reputations that suggest otherwise are no more deprived uneducated or useless than any other big urban city. Some problems are more exposed than others due to the geographical isolation of the city, which limits opportunities in employment. There are certainly worst places to live.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Les from Hull
Date: 03 Feb 09 - 05:23 PM

People who celebrate Hull will be delighted to know that at the moment 'there's ner sner at erl'. That's our very civilised weather system at work. If anyone is thinking of visiting Hull, I'll be delighted to give them my personal Old Town tour, which I have done for a number of visitors, not least Mudcat's own Joe Offer.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: theleveller
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 05:40 AM

I'm up for a tour of the pubs, Les, if you're buying - I've already been thrown out of most of them in my time.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Rasener
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 06:06 AM

Now who could this be?
I always thought he was from ull.

The son of a railway signalman (and Labour councillor) and grandson of a miner, ??? was born in Prestatyn, Wales. He left Wales in 1942 at the age of four and was brought up initially in Brinsworth in South Yorkshire, England. He attended Brinsworth Primary School, where he sat but failed the Eleven Plus examination in 1949. Shortly after, his family moved to Upton, Cheshire and he went to school in nearby Ellesmere Port, where he attended Grange Secondary Modern School. He became a steward and waiter in the Merchant Navy, thus avoiding National Service, working for Cunard.

Hull has a football team (at the moment) in the Premiership. It has a very modern football stadium, which would be the envy of a lot of clubs.

For people from Lincolnshire, it is the gateway for getting up to places like Beverly, Whitby, Robin Hoods Bay, amongst others.

Is also the gateway by boat to Europe.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Will Fly
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 06:12 AM

Well Villan... could it be John Prescott...?

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Rasener
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 07:28 AM

LOL You are so intelligent Will :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Will Fly
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 07:32 AM

I don't think so! But I just couldn't resist the temptation...

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Rasener
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 07:40 AM

I thought the answer would have been quicker than 6 minutes Will :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Will Fly
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 07:42 AM

Well, I was daydreaming for 5 minutes.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Nick
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 08:45 AM

My wife comes from Hessle near Hull.

That makes Hull close to perfection.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Wesley S
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 11:18 AM

Isn't Hull just a short drive from Wetwang?

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: theleveller
Date: 04 Feb 09 - 11:46 AM

About 30 miles - or a couple of days' walk along the beautiful Wiolds Way.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Gurney
Date: 05 Feb 09 - 03:33 AM

Even the cows around Hull are characters. Beeb again.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: ossonflags
Date: 05 Feb 09 - 05:31 AM

good fish and chips in Wetwang and a scarecrow festival.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: GUEST,buspassed
Date: 05 Feb 09 - 05:59 AM

'ull'? a right grand place 'ull is! I know cos although I left it 40 years ago I keep going back [154 trips at last count].

It's bit like Luton but without the charm & culture scraped off, not as it was described by a intellectually challenged Doncastrian,

" a chippy 50 miles up a railway siding"

Larkin gorrit dead right in that missing line from 'Here'

'Hull? Great spot! shit hot!'

[ps Our Lass is from 'ull an'all]

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: ossonflags
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 03:02 AM

Bob Carver has two fish ships

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: GUEST,buspassed
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 06:33 AM

Bob Carver's fish ships/shops [and he used to have a tent!} sell a local delicacy called the 'patty' the nature of which is almost explained in this link.


http://www.thisisyourmail.co.uk/posts/your_say/view/50163-chip-shop-patties

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: ossonflags
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 12:31 PM

Or maybe this?
http://www.thisisyourmail.co.uk/posts/your_say/view/50163-chip-shop-patties

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: ossonflags
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 12:38 PM

Ah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! good East Yorkshire working class soul food.Does any one remember chat haddocks? and cut fish?

Bob had two tents in market both had ranges that were coke fired - another guy had a tent as well.I used to go to school with Bob junior his lad, and I sometimes see him in't bluebell for a pint

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: GUEST,buspassed
Date: 06 Feb 09 - 01:43 PM

Blue Bell surely! [sorry must stop calling people surely!]

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: fat B****rd
Date: 07 Feb 09 - 05:24 AM

Let's see. Watching The Mariners lose to The Tigers, playing at The Victoria Club, Buying Joe Turner's Honey hush at Sidney Scarboroughs, visiting my late mother-in-law in Anlaby, avoiding a pub with sawdust on the floor at the ferry port, Grimsby to Hull short lived Hovercraft service, the lovely Tattershall Castle paddle steamer...but most of all making a demo disc at Keith Herds studio in 'essle.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: GUEST,buspassed
Date: 07 Feb 09 - 07:52 AM

Not forgetting fB, watching Waggy & Chillo run rings [and kick lumps off!] many a defender at Boothferry Park, seeing Bill Drake flatten his brother at Boulevard [ very muddy conditions, mistaken identity over an opposition remark regarding marriage status of parents!] seeing the Beatles at Majestic Ballroom in '62 plus the wife's uncle discovering that he could drink all day in the bar on the Humber ferry for the price of a return ticket.

Never dull in 'ull!

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: fat B****rd
Date: 07 Feb 09 - 11:03 AM

Not just your wife'suncle,buspassed. Why did we think it impressive or even enjoyable to dtink beer at 8.30 on a Sunday morning, just because we could, I suppose.
PS Any Hesslians know if Keith Herd is still around? He was mentioned in thread here some time ago.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: GUEST,buspassed
Date: 07 Feb 09 - 12:09 PM

I think mainly fB it wasn't so much the beer drinking but beating those old rules controlling opening times. The wife's uncle also enjoyed Yorkshire's county matches at the Anlaby Rd. circle [sadly under the KC Stadium now] as the beer tent was open all day. he was not to keen on the introduction of one day cricket. "Barely time to get to know the barmaid's bra size!" was his stock answer when he was asked if he approved of the one day game.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: GUEST,jOhn
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 11:52 AM

Keith is alive and well, he moved to North cave a couple of years ago.

Home 01430 425546

mobile [phone].

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: boosh
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 02:01 PM

I have lived in Hull for the entire 15 years of my life so far.
Wilberforce, the Watersons and Windas (DEANO!!!!) all came from Hull, so it can't be that bad, right????

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: ossonflags
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 02:25 PM

Hello jOhn gizza bell sumetime.

Kieths recording studio is still were it always was round the corner from The Ketch pub Willerby. Recorded there meself on four occasions. I was at the South Cave place last week, that is were all the stuff is reproduced

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: fat B****rd
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 03:42 PM

Hello and thanks to jOhn and Ossenflags. If you see Mr.Herd ask if he still remembers the Rumble Band from Grimsby (1967). Last time he got a mention he said we were the biggest outfit he'd ever had in the studio !

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: GUEST,buspassed
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 05:13 AM

In '63 four of us made a demo in Hull. It was on Paragon station in the recording booth were for 2/6 you got a single sided floppy acetate. We did a full on cover version of Dell Shannon's 'Runaway' complete with BT policeman's voice on the end asking that predictable question
"What's all this then?" followed by uncontrolled laughter. Yes we'd had a drink!

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: ossonflags
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 06:14 AM

Well I'll go to the foot of our stairs!!!!!

For two and a tanner in 1963 you could have bough twelve pints of Hull Brewery Mild, entrance into Locarno, pattie and chips with scraps on the way home, a three piece suit with matching tie and one of them three pointed hankies on cardboard, an overcoat from Burtons and still have enough left over for a down payment on a sham four.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Rasener
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 06:43 AM

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: theleveller
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 08:09 AM

Ah, good old Hull Brewery Mild - used to be 1/7d a pint. It made me what I am today (a gibbering idiot).

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: GUEST,buspassed
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 08:32 AM

Aren't you forgeting in addition OoF, a couple of hours of light dusting always on offer from one of those charming ladies taking the air down Waterhouse Lane.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: ossonflags
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 08:43 AM

Sometimes that little spot of light dusting ended (allegedly) in a waddle down to Mill Street for sympathetic treatment of cupids measles.

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Sttaw Legend
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 08:28 AM

It's a Hull lotta love............

"MEN from Hull were yesterday named as the most romantic in the UK.
A survey showed they sent the most — and most expensive — bouquets to their other halves on Valentine's Day.

The city was closely followed by London and Southampton, with Wolverhampton fourth then Belfast, Bradford, Plymouth, Stoke-on-Trent, Birmingham and Manchester.

The survey looked at factors like how many flowers are bought and how much is spent. Least romantic cities were Edinburgh and Bristol."

Quote from Flying Flowers via Hull Daily – so it must be true

Subject: RE: BS: Hull.
From: Michael
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 11:16 AM

REAL news in the HDM!!
For the last week the headlines have been: 'IT'S SNOWING', IT'S SNOWING AGAIN' 'IT'S GOING TO SNOW SOME MORE' and 'IT DIDN'T SNOW TODAY'
At least I wouldn't have learnt how romantic we are just by looking out of the window.

Mike