Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!

Subject: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: skipy
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 07:09 PM

Maybe one day, just one day I'll come home & she will be dressed as a nurse & wearing suspenders!
Skipy

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: skipy
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 07:10 PM

Sorry! Forgot to click the BS bit! Pleas move.
Skipy

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 07:13 PM

Let's get this straight: you want to go home dressed as a nurse and wearing suspenders? Too many sin-arounds if you ask me...

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 07:17 PM

Could always injure yourself badly enough to get admitted to hospital Skipy... many of the nurses wear suspenders and stockings for personal hygiene purposes.....

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 07:23 PM

Yes, I can see how you might have wanted this to go in the "BS" section.
Do you mind if I tell a Jade Goody joke while I'm in the process of moving?

er, forget that I said that....

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Bill D
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 07:31 PM

skipy...you need to think a bit longer before starting some of these.............and then not start them.

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Riginslinger
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 07:42 PM

What would you have her suspend with her suspenders?

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: skipy
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 07:47 PM

Joe, I think the thread about Jade is as vile as a thread can get, please note that I did not add to it in any way so as not to bring it to the top again. As much as I find her lifestyle & I.Q. pathetic I would not wish this on anyone.
This will be my last post to mudcat (thanks Bill D!) I took soo much flak about the smoking ban including threats that came by phone from "mudcaters", that I just don't want to be here anymore!
I was looking fwd. to having a thread about a forthcoming cd that we are producing for folkforms, but it will sell anyway.
I bid you all goodnight & goodbye.
Skipy, too worn down to continue.

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 07:50 PM

You know, Joe, I so agree with you on the point you're making here and on the now defunct Goody thread.

Can I become an honorary American? It's getting kinda embarrassing being part of the UK Mudcat genepool...

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Rasener
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 08:09 PM

Joe, did it serve any purose to bring that up on this thread. As a moderator I expected better from you.

Anyway it was a funny thread Skipy. Just come back and carry on posting. After all I want to know if the suspenders and stockings were worn.

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 08:11 PM

Yes, yes, there are so many things we mustn't talk about...

But hey, if the nurse is wearing suspenders and nothing else, what's the use? I tried to fantasize about all this, and it just didn't work.

I must work on this suppression stuff a little harder.

I mustn't, I mustn't, I mustn't...

Oh, bullshit.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: frogprince
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 08:19 PM

If I'm not mistaken, in the UK, suspenders hold up stockings; in the US those are called garter belts, but they've virtually disappeared with the advent of pantyhose except for fetishwear. In the US, suspenders go over the shoulders and hold pants up. Either place, I think my wife would look sweet wearing just suspenders.

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: GUEST,Sorch
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 08:20 PM

Bullshit indeed. LOTS of it.

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 09:45 PM

US suspenders = UK braces

UK suspenders = US garter

UK garter = dunno, but there's an order of it

US braces = dental appliances for correcting crooked teeth

Maybe that's why Brits have such notoriously bad teeth. They use braces to hold their pants up instead of to correct overbites.

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 10:44 PM

UK garter = elastic band that goes round the leg and by its tightness holds up socks

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Mar 09 - 11:51 PM

Jaysus, Joe and BillD...didja both get up on the wrong side, today?

skipy, I hope you don't go...or at least don't go for long.

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 12:19 AM

Then, of course, there is always 'thigh highs'....

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 03:51 AM

Not sure what kind of impression you are trying to make Joe but I had not before considered you so brash, insensitive and uncaring about the dying and relatives/friends of the dying/dead, which is what the Jade Goody thread represented. Moderation , surely takes a good degree of understanding of peoples feelings.. and if you take a look at the Jade Goody thread, many people including me were upset by the implications of the thread as a whole.
I believe you have not understood the importance of this to many of us and have 'flown in the face of the majority'! with your comments and your own personal 'quip' on this thread.
Please let the whole Jade Goody thing drop now and I would ask.... humbly... that you give more thought to what the sensitive, caring, concerned majority feel when making your decisions.
Best wishes, Mike.
PS Skipy, please don't go... I have enjoyed many of your posts and know this one was started light heartedly.... not sure why it met with such a reaction from certain people.

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: CarolC
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 06:41 AM

Suspenders in US terminology don't hold up what in the UK are called "pants". They hold up what in the UK are called trousers. If what in the US were called "suspenders" were holding up what in the UK are called "pants", they would be holding up someone's underwear.

Complicated, innit?

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 07:13 AM

Okay, seeing the spectre of the Jade Goody thread has been raised, I will post here my parting shot that I was too late to post before thread was closed. I might add that this was inspired by Backwoodsman's comment It's OK, Goatfell, the guy has recognised his error and apologised very graciously.

*

My only error in starting this thread was to suppose people would have the nous to approach the subject with dispassionate objectivity deserving of a genuine folkloric phenomenon. In this alone I was sorely mistaken, for which I have been accused of trolling, called an evil bastard, and condemned to hell. And there I was thinking I was in the company of rational human beings.

How many people can there be in the world today whose lives haven't been touched, or else torn apart, by cancer? I've lost count of the close relatives and good friends whom I've lost to the Big-C - which any one of us might get at any time in our lives. Cancer and death are no strangers to me - likewise Multiple Sclerosis, Stroke, Heart Disease, Cystic Fibrosis, and Knife Crime; all of which have taken family & loved ones from me.

I say again, the intention here was not to laugh at cancer nor at those suffering from it, rather to collect and study a phenomenon of oral folkloric narrative which is an inevitable response to the current media circus. Folklore is not just about the quaint things in life, like Cheese Rolling and Morris Dancing; it emerges from the real hopes and fears of real people living real lives by way of a very real & potent catharsis. These narratives - jokes if you will - function by way of a genuine collective confrontation in which the very things that afflict us are reduced, personified and dealt with by way of ritual drama, however so droll. The humour, however, is a veneer, and the laughter all too grim, belying as it does a deeper sense of kindred affinity which extends even unto the person in question, who by her celebrity life and dying has provided a sharper focus for those common fears than would have been the case otherwise.

As with Princess Diana, our collective hearts will inevitably be broken; and, manipulated or not, our grief for the tragic and untimely passing of Jade Goody will be no less real because of it.

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 07:21 AM

It's all about conformity skipy, and you don't conform, and I for one say WELL DONE mate.
There are enough boring bastards in the world as it is, and we need non conformists, badly.
I try not to conform myself, as I don't want individuality to die out alltogether.
They're trying to stamp it out you know!

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Megan L
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 11:53 AM

PLEASE Skippy get the missus tae send me a foti o you in the ootfit and auld wifie needs aw the excitement she kin get. Keep bein you ma lad :)

*Grabs coat and leaves ;)

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 12:34 PM

OK, so now I see how Brits might get aroused by "suspenders" - but for those of us brought up with a different meaning of the word, the fantasies we get are visualizations of old, fat guys holding up their trousers....

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 12:35 PM

What you do in the privacy of your own home, is your business Joe

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Bill D
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 12:49 PM

"It's all about conformity ..."

well...that's not MY point in suggesting that this thread, and occasional others, were not well considered. We can ALL imagine non-conformist posts and/or threads which would be beyond our own personal limits of taste and relevance. We just all have slightly different thresholds, hmmm?

Note...neither Joe nor I called for **censorship** or closing the thread, but we did state our feelings. I have explained my opinion privately to skipy, and offered to expand on it if he wishes. (the 'copycat' title of a serious thread was the major point)

This calls up an important issue, I think. Should remarks of the sort Joe & I made (short but pointed) be avoided totally? Should they only be made privately in PMs? Should negative responses to such things be made ONLY if they are deemed bad enough to warrant deletion or closure?
Sticky, ain't it?
I would think that the occasional negative response to a 'style' of posting would, theoretically, help us, as Burns put it, "see oorselves as others see us..". None of us can 'conform' to all possible views of ourselves by others, but I do know that *I* have been had occasional 'reflections' of myself right here at Mudcat. I suppose this would include in this thread.... complicated, ain't it?

We see many, many 'non-conformist' posts and people here - some get regular & harsh responses, and are still not subject to censorship. Those who are criticized seldom agree WITH the criticism.

I have several RT friends here whose posting style I complain about....this does not carry over to RT, and is no judgment of their value as a person or friend.

As to skipy... he often posts valuable & interesting items, and I know of some important projects he works in. I would NOT like to see him leave. I was surprised, as I conveyed to him privately, that my short comment hit him that hard. I do...sincerely... hope he will reconsider his idea of leaving.

This medium is hard to 'properly' communicate in....when we speak face-to-face, we can often sort out an issue with a few quick back & forth exchanges, rather than hours or days of typing with others joining in from the sidelines.



skipy...if you are reading this, please accept my apology for upsetting you and try once more to be part of us.

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 01:18 PM

Hey, skipy - If you got phone threats from Mudcat members they should be named, shamed and kicked off the site here and now! You know my views well and we have had some good online and PM exchanges - All of which, I hope, encouraged you to get to singarounds and do a bit.

Now, I am not saying I encourage the sinarounds or would realy fancy going to one where you were wearing sussies and smoking a big cigar but, hey, someone might...:-P

Get yourself back here now!

DeG

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 01:33 PM

I guess there are a lot of people who aren't comfortable with the way we operate at Mudcat. We've always had a policy of limited moderation, and we've expected the community to police itself. The moderators are part of the community, and are supposed to be available to help - not to control. If they see things are going wrong, their first response should be to speak up and point out what's wrong and push things in another direction - not to suppress whatever is happening, but to nudge it in a better direction.

So, occasionally I speak out, just like Bill spoke out to say that he didn't like this thread. Note that he didn't call for the thread to be deleted - he just said he didn't like it. I got flak on the thread I started on the Bobert's Keyboard Auction, when I complained about a "harmonic convergence" of trivial threads and trivial auction items.

Skipy started this thread as a parody of the "BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????" thread, which now has 582 posts and has become tedious. I suppose this thread didn't work quite as Skipy intended it to work, but I think it was a noble effort.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 02:15 PM

Consider yourself patronised skipy

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Rasener
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 02:18 PM

Nowt wrong with what skipy did Joe.


Its what you did as copied from your post above.

>>Do you mind if I tell a Jade Goody joke while I'm in the process of moving?

er, forget that I said that.... <<

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 02:23 PM

Ahhhh, but would he have been as well patronised if he hadn't have been wearing the stockings?

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Rasener
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 02:59 PM

Well thats a good point. I did a google for nurses wearing suspenders and stockings, but kept on coming up with X rated sites. Why would that be?

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: GUEST,Doc John
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 03:11 PM

I remember in my youth spending time watching nurses walking on a footbridge over the A57 from the nurses' home to the hospital. Not just stockings but black stockings, suspenders and those dresses, caps, starched aprons and capes with red linings. Mmmmm. Now hospital's no fun: they dress like games mistresses.

Doc John

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: The Sandman
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 03:24 PM

Joe Offer,I am lost for words..

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: Amos
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 04:45 PM

WHut we have hyar iza faylyoor to co-MEWN-icate. We are, indeed, two cultures seperated by a common language. The buttons and sensitivities I am hearing here really puzzle me.

A

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: gnu
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 05:43 PM

Ahhhhhyup. Big time, Amos.

Fact is, everyone should just calm down and realize it's all banter. Yes, we get upset. Yes, we get miscombobulated. And then the tail chases the dog. Sometimes, it gets so bad that the dog bites it's own tail. You know what I am talking about.

As for phone calls. Been there. Got done by that. Had to threaten to call the RCMP.

Fact is... it's all banter... until someone gets their ass too high in the air. No matter the reason, better to try to work it out.. NO?

Skipy... hope you don't leave. If you have, bye and good luck.

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 06:10 PM

Well perhaps if folks thought about how what they say, might come over to other folks, or if they even bothered to listen to them, never mind ask them why they did or said something, before they condemn them out of hand. Then maybe there might be a bit more of the mutual understanding thing.
It may or may not be your ball, but you gotta let the other kids have a kick.
Play nice now, that's what my Mother always used to say.

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: frogprince
Date: 12 Mar 09 - 08:47 PM

a little variation on the theme This is titled "Shameless Nude"; I did it a few years ago, after some members of our Art Association tried to make a ruling prohibiting nude art in our gallery.

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Mar 09 - 12:20 AM

Nice one, frogprince!

David el Gnomo, I am not saying I encourage the sinarounds... Interesting typo.**bg**

Subject: RE: Nurse suspenders, I'm praying!
From: GUEST,Slag
Date: 13 Mar 09 - 12:55 AM

fp, love the scroll work on the chair!

Suspenders? My Grandpappy called them "galluses". It's in the dictionary.

Skipy, old USAF buddy, come back! I will miss your input.