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Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament

GUEST,Jackiefas 19 Mar 09 - 04:46 AM
Marje 19 Mar 09 - 08:36 AM
Sandy Mc Lean 19 Mar 09 - 09:58 AM
Artful Codger 19 Mar 09 - 03:36 PM
Jack Campin 19 Mar 09 - 04:16 PM
Marje 21 Mar 09 - 01:31 PM
GUEST,Jackiefas 21 Mar 09 - 01:57 PM
Monique 21 Mar 09 - 02:12 PM
Stewart 21 Mar 09 - 02:17 PM
Jack Campin 21 Mar 09 - 07:24 PM
Marje 23 Mar 09 - 09:34 AM
Jack Campin 06 Nov 09 - 07:00 AM
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Subject: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament
From: GUEST,Jackiefas
Date: 19 Mar 09 - 04:46 AM

Hi
I am trying to find either mandolin or guitar tab or music score for the tune L'inconnu de limoise. Would be really grateful for any help. Thank you for reading this
Jackie


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament
From: Marje
Date: 19 Mar 09 - 08:36 AM

If you search for "inconnu" in the site below you'll find it in various versions. Choose midi or pdf, and just keep clicking yes until it appears. It's not a pretty site, but a very useful one, and always the first place I look for a tune.

http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/cgi/abc/tunefind


Marje


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 19 Mar 09 - 09:58 AM

My niece owned a racehorse called L'inconnu which I believe means the stranger. No tune though, sorry.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament
From: Artful Codger
Date: 19 Mar 09 - 03:36 PM

More precisely, "the unknown", here meaning "the unidentified"; one would more likely say "l'étranger" for "the stranger" (i.e., not from these parts).


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament
From: Jack Campin
Date: 19 Mar 09 - 04:16 PM

Not a very intrinsically exciting tune, is it?

Who's managed to make it into something worth hearing?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament
From: Marje
Date: 21 Mar 09 - 01:31 PM

I learned it at a festival workshop with a band (I think it was the Cock and Bull band but I could be wrong). We all just loved the tune and enjoyed playing it.

It's a mazurka, not a waltz, and is best played at a fairly brisk speed, not drippily like some waltzes. Apart from that, what can I say? You either like a tune or you don't. I think the second half of it in particular has something very alluring about the melody. But it obviously doesn't appeal to you the same way.

As I understand it, the tune is supposed to have been written to commemorate the discovery of a very old grave containing, along with the body, a set of pipes. They couldn't identify the body so they called this unknown piper -and the tune - "L'inconnu". This may of course be a "folk myth" or complete rubbish, I don't know.

Marje


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament
From: GUEST,Jackiefas
Date: 21 Mar 09 - 01:57 PM

Hi
Thanks Marje, that is just brilliant. I think it is a lovely tune when played properly, we have 2 ladies who do it on whistles and another lady who plays accordian brilliantly. Thank you so much for your help also for the background info.
LOL


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament
From: Monique
Date: 21 Mar 09 - 02:12 PM

Here is a page about the song and the author with the basic tune sheet music. He tells the story " Some years ago, an employee of Limoise town (Allier, in the Massif Central) was busy to move sepultures and found a body buried with a bagpipe by his side. It's hard for me to tell how many thoughts and emotions it caused in my head. This tune was composed at that moment with the deliberate intention to make people weep in major (major mode)."


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament
From: Stewart
Date: 21 Mar 09 - 02:17 PM

HERE it is at thesession.org. I think it's a nice little tune. Several versions including one in a minor key are given.

And this about it's title:
"The name has a story behind it, as you might guess (although I'm hazy on the details). When they were doing some roadworks, or demolition, or moving a graveyard, or something like that in Limoise they came across a grave containing both a skeleton and the remains of a set of pipes. The grave was un-named, so the identity of the piper was unknown, but the story caught the imagination of the French folk world and M Heintzen penned the tune in the piper's honour. There are apparently (french) words to it somewhere out there.
Incidentally, there is no truth in the rumour that the piper was found staked through the heart with his chanter. This would be entirely unnecessary as all that is required to stop a piper rising again is to cut off their head and stuff their bellows with garlic..."
Interesting, whether you believe it or not.

Cheers, S. in Seattle


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament
From: Jack Campin
Date: 21 Mar 09 - 07:24 PM

This version sorta works:

Sirio Restani

though I prefer the other two tunes in his set.

(I love the way he's framed that video - look round his head!)


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament
From: Marje
Date: 23 Mar 09 - 09:34 AM

That's exactly the sort of punchy, rhythmic playing that I meant, Jack, rather than a dozy waltz-style. ALthough I have to add that I'd prefer different chords: in the first 4 bars of the B-part (given that he's playing the melodeon in C major, a mean Continental trick), I'd prefer
F/Em/Am/G.

and yes, the halo-effect is superb!

Marje


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament
From: Jack Campin
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 07:00 AM

Here's an ABC of what was published at the diatojo site with Heintzen's permission - it's a bit different from the version at "thesession". I've reorganized the anacruses for clarity.

X:1
T:L'Inconnu De Limoise
C:J.F. "Maxou" Heintzen
S:http://www.diatojo.com/tablatures/l-inconnu-de-limoise/jean-francois-maxou-heintzen.html
M:3/4
L:1/8
R:mazurka
K:G
D/ G>A|B2-B>G c>A|B2-B>B c>d|c2- c>B      A>G|D2- D3/
D/ G>A|B2-B>G c>A|B2-B>B c>d|c2- c>B      A>G|A2- A3/ :|
B/ c>d|e2 g>f e>f|d2-d>c B>A|G>F G>A      B>G|D2 G2 F2|
       E2-E>F G>A|G2 F2 E2 |F2- F3/[1 E/ F>G|A2- A3/ :|\
                                    [2 G/ A>B|G2- G3/ |]


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: L'inconnu de limoise (dead pipers lament
From: Mr Happy
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 07:20 AM

Jack C & Stewart,

Thanks for your contributions.

They've given a much better interpretation of the tune than the unpromising first impression from JC's Tunefinder [which is a good site I frequently use, but some've the mechanically produced arrangements are sometimes abit iffy!]


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