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Chord Req: Town of Kiandra

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ROCKIN` THE CRADLE
ROCKING THE CRADLE
SPORTING BACHELORS
WHEN I WAS A YOUNG MAN


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Subject: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: Kathryn
Date: 31 Mar 09 - 09:52 PM

I have the words, but can't figure out the chords. Can anyone help?
Thanks in advance.


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 Mar 09 - 10:07 PM

Hi, Kathryn -
Can you post the lyrics you have, so we know which version you're talking about?
-Joe-


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Subject: Lyr Add: ROCKING THE CRADLE
From: Kathryn
Date: 31 Mar 09 - 10:18 PM

Here ya go. thanks.
ROCKING THE CRADLE

I am a young man from the town of Kiandra
I married a young woman to comfort my home
She goes out and she leaves me and truly deceives me
She leaves me with a baby that's none o' me own

Oh dear, I rue the day ever I married
How I wish I was single again
With this weeping and wailing and rocking the cradle
And rocking the baby that's none o' me own

While I'm at work, my wife's on the rantan
On the rantan with some other young man
She goes out and she leaves me and truly deceives me
And leaves me with a baby that's none o' me own

Now all you young men with a fancy to marry
Be sure you leave those flash gals alone
Or by the Lord Harry, if one you should marry
They'll leave you with a baby that's none o' your own^^^


    Lyrics are the same as what's in the Digital Tradition.
    -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: Kathryn
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 08:46 AM

Another title is "Rocking the Cradle"


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: Terry McDonald
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 09:54 AM

Play it using G shapes and it goes:

G-F-G for the first line
G-C-D for the second
F-G-F-G for the third
and G-C-D-G for the last (although you could try the G-F-G combination for this line - depends on how you're hearing the melody.)


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: Mr Happy
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 09:17 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiandra


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: Noreen
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 05:45 PM

Well well- I never knew there was such a place as Kiandra.

The song ROCKING THE CRADLE is much older than this version; the only time I have heard the version mentioning Kiandra was sung by Nic Jones or by people who got it from Nic Jones, and I assumed he had made the name up.

Is it possible then that Nic got the song from an Australian?


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 06:02 PM

Nearly all versions taken down from traditional singers were recorded in Ireland, apart from 2 English + 1 Nova Scotian.
A L Lloyd introduced the Australian one into the clubs, but probably adapted it from an Irish version (and probably gave it to Nic Jones).
Jim Carroll.


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: Noreen
Date: 15 Jul 10 - 06:22 PM

Interesting, Jim, thanks.


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: Eldergirl
Date: 10 Sep 13 - 07:24 AM

Every version I've heard says Cruelly deceives me, not Truly. See Raymond Crooke's version on YouTube, f'rinstance.


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 10 Sep 13 - 09:00 AM

Lomax used to point out how similar the tune was to Git Along Little Dogies.

~M~


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: GUEST,Phil
Date: 11 Sep 13 - 03:50 AM

I first heard this song Melbourne, Australia in the late 1960's. Declan Afley and others sang it. The words were not exactly the same as anything above and the tune also varied. Strangely I can't find anyone who recalls the tune as I do.

A great song.

Phil


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: JennieG
Date: 11 Sep 13 - 07:58 AM

I've been to Kiandra. It was in mid-summer just after a cold change had blown through, and was very very cold.......but incredibly beautiful, with wide open spaces and clear air.


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: GUEST,John Charles Mc Allister
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 04:58 AM

This works for me
Chorus
D          Am          G      D
Oh dear, I rue the day ever I married
D    Am         C       D
How I wish I was single again
C                     D          Am          D
With this weeping and wailing and rocking the cradle
                C          Am         D
And rocking the baby that's none of my own


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 06:01 PM

Seamus Ennis used to assert [how seriously I was never sure -- you never quite knew with Seamus!] that had had heard many Irish singers of this song assure the listeners that it was one of the oldest songs in the world: the Father rocking the Cradle having originally being St Joseph and the baby within it the Infant Jesus ~~ whose Mother had indeed presented her husband with "A baby that was none of his own".

~M~


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: GUEST,Bob Bolton
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 06:53 PM

G'day ...

This is the version of The Wee One (an alternative name for what you have been discussing as the "Town of Kiandra" - collected by Australian folklorist John Meredith from the prolific source of Australian songs - Sally Sloane:

The Wee One

I am a young man cut down in my blossom,
I married a young girl to comfort my home,
She goes out and she leaves me
And falsely deceives me
And leaves me a wee one that ne'er was my own.
Chorus
Oh, dear, oh, the day I got married,
I wish I were single again,
With my weeping and wailing
And rocking the cradle
And nursing a wee one that ne'er is my own.

While I'm at work, my wife's on the rantan,
On the rantan with another young man,
She goes out and she leaves me
And falsely deceives me
And leaves me a wee one that ne'er is my own.

All you young men that are fond of the lassies
Take my advice, leave those flash girls alone,
For by the Lord Harry
If one you should marry,
She'll bring you a wee one that ne'er is your own.


John met Sally in Lithgow (country town west of Sydney) in the mid 1950s ... and ended up visiting Sally for many weekends collecting trips. after recording many new and interesting songs from Sally, John discovered that she would sometimes unconsciously start singing over the 'washing up' after dinner ... yet another song John had not yet heard! He hung a microphone above the sink mounting - and played back to Sally many snatches of yet another song ... and Sally woulod then record yet another of her vast repertoire!

This text is from the small "Songs of Sally Sloane" booklet I published for sale and distribution around the Bush Music Club ... quite a few years back!

BobB


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 07:08 PM

G'day again,

... Now I have retreived my log-in ...

Obviously, this song is one of a myriad of variations of the same theme ... and Sally Sloane was known locally ... certainly around Lithgow in the in the 1950 ... as the "Lady of a thousand songs"!

I'll check my home files to see if I still have a computer file of my Sally Sloane song book(let) ... and, perhaps email a digital copy to Joe Offer ... along with any other scraps of information / background that might be relevant.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: GUEST,Squeezer
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 07:34 PM

I recall Margaret Walters (and I hope I have got this right) once saying that Sally Sloane changed the words of the version she had first learned to "town of Kiandra" because she knew a young man in Kiandra who was in the same position as the one in the song.

"Rantan" and "flash" are 18th century slang which came over on the convict transports and still survive in Australia after having died out in England. There are one or two others, such as "prad" for a horse, though that might be obsolete now.


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 17 Jun 14 - 08:13 PM

G'day 'Squeezer',

I'm sure you are right ... Sally was an established 'performer' in her tradition. She had lived for many years with her family involved in work - especially on building the railways ... and became an established source of songs in the fettlers' camps and such mobile, changing communities.

There would have been none of our sense of seeking out the "real" / "oldest" / ""genuine"???" version of any song - rather fitting performance into the background knowledge, experience and community of her family's co-workers.

Regards,

Bob Bolton


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: GUEST,threelegsoman
Date: 18 Jun 14 - 03:01 AM

I have uploaded a version under the title: "Oh Dear Rue The Day" based on The Ian Campbell Folk Group version.
As with all my uploads, I include the lyrics and chords on screen.
Oh Dear Rue The Day


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: GUEST,Desi C
Date: 19 Jun 14 - 10:00 AM

Rocking The Cradle was the first song I ever performed in a Fol Club, unaccompaied. I first heard it on an early 60's album 'imtroducing the Ian Campbell Folk Group. Lorna Campbell once told me the song was from Australia. Always went down wel, must revive it if anyone has the chords?


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Feb 16 - 12:21 PM

David Hammond, the Belfast singer, recorded "Rocking the Cradle" in 1959 in his album "I am the Wee Falourie Man". The tune is quite different but the words are not dissimilar. Hammond's song seems older. Could it be the origin of Kiandra?
I've tried to transcribe the words to the first verse as I can't find them written down.

It was the other night dear I chanced to go roving.
Down by the clear river I jogged along.
I heard an old man making sad lamentation,
About rocking the cradle and the child not his own.

Chorus
Hey ho, hey ho my laddie lie easy,
For perhaps your own dadda will never be known.
For it's seeing and sighing and rocking the cradle,
And nursing the baby and the child not his own.

Plus another two verses


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: GUEST,#
Date: 07 Feb 16 - 09:56 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxmlEMz-wQI

Interesting history regarding the song. It is also interesting that one 'variation' is dome in a minor key while others (like Streets of Laredo) are in a major. Be sure to click the SHOW MORE button below the video.


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: GUEST,#
Date: 07 Feb 16 - 10:12 AM

The Bard of Armagh done by Billy Finnegan.


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 Feb 16 - 06:58 PM

Funny, I KNOW that I have posted the chords to this in C on here, with the chord changes interpolated with the lyrics. There should IMHO be no minors. Mr Google is saying that that post does not exist. Now searching my computer in the hope that I saved it as a word document.


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 Feb 16 - 07:31 PM

Not there either with chords. How odd. Had to play it through again. Chorus and verse, same sequence. In the Cs at the ends of of lines you can pull off the E in the middle to drop it to D and then hammer back on again if you like.

Ch: (C) Oh dear rue the (Bb)day (F)ever I (C)married
How I (F)wish I was (Bb)single (C)again
All this (Bb)weeping and (F)wailing and (C)rocking the (F)cradle
(C)Rocking a ba(F)by that's (Bb)none of my (C)own


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Subject: RE: Chord Req: Town of Kiandra
From: threelegsoman
Date: 08 Feb 16 - 03:18 AM

I uploaded my version under the title "Oh Dear, Rue The Day" as is its title on an LP by the Ian Campbell Folk Group:

Oh Dear Rue The Day (Including lyrics and chords)


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