BS: First news from G20

Subject: BS: First news from G20
From: Lox
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 11:43 AM

A couple of links showing whats happening


inside


and


outside

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 12:00 PM

Lox, both of those links go only to an ad for an upcoming television special.

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: George Papavgeris
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 12:27 PM

Clicking on the "live text" tab does it - gives both video and text live commentary. But it may only do it for UK connections...

What did you want? Summit for Nothing?

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: Lox
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 01:01 PM

Sorry America, I think some of you may be unable to access the BBC.

Well thats where to look anyway if you fancy it.

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 01:09 PM

Lox, both links work fine here in the snow-covered bush of western Canada.
A friend in San Francisco also says your links are fine. Some browsers kick it out?
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We get BBCNews on cable here (Calgary), so coverage 24 hours a day.

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 01:14 PM

Sorry, she says, sulkily.

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 01:37 PM

Ebbie, enter www.bbcnews.com in your address bar, and it will take you to their main page. At the moment, the site has a changing picture of G-20 fruitcakes and G-20 leaders. Below it are active links to several G20 stories.

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 01:54 PM

Q .... did you mean G-20 fruit cakes and then the G-20 protesters.

I certainly don't condone the actions of some protesters ... but this all inidcates there is something wrong with the present day world econimy and those G-20 fruitcakes (leaders) do get it and are snubbing their noses or they simply just don't get the fact that their is a lot of angry people in this world some who are in the abyss of despair or standing on the edge about to fall in.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 02:21 PM

I said G-20 fruitcakes and G-20 leaders; the fruitcakes perhaps better described as fruitless trouble-makers.

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 02:47 PM

I agree ... the G-20 fruitcakes (leaders) are causing more trouble (on the global front) than the G-20 protestors.

biLL :)

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 05:41 PM

Troll alert- fruitcake 6 pints short of a case.

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: Lox
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 06:04 PM

I like to see them as an unpalateably rich chocolate cake on the one hand, , with one too many sweeteners thrown in, and a bitter lemon cake on the other, not very luxurious, lacking the fruits it deserves and on the brink of collapsing in a mess if the chef isn't careful to look after it carefully.

No trolls around here - I think they must be gorging on the fruitcake.

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: Amos
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 06:27 PM

"The summits thus far have given the Russians plenty to chew on. Russian President Dmitri Medvedev came to the G-20 ready to negotiate with Obama on a slew of issues that revolve around a core Russian imperative of consolidating power in the former Soviet periphery. A look at the joint statement and press conferences from the Obama-Medvedev meetings might leave one with the impression that the Americans and the Russians are ready to cooperate, but in reality, all they could really boast about was a commitment to restart talks on nuclear disarmament, leaving a host of outstanding critical issues in limbo. It is quite apparent that the United States has its hands full, but Obama still let the Russians know that he does not intend sit back and allow Moscow to have its way with Eurasia. The Russians now have a better idea of Obama's boundaries in these negotiations, but their priorities have not changed; Moscow still has ways of grabbing Washington's attention.


It has been a roller coaster ride thus far, with still more to come. Before Obama makes his way to Turkey, he still has to touch base with his NATO allies in Prague. With the Russians ready to play hardball and the balance of the Eurasian landmass still in flux, these meetings will be anything but bland. Meanwhile, STRATFOR's team of expert analysts will be working to provide their members with the analytical context to find significant meaning from these summits. A redefinition of global systems is taking place that will carry well into the future..."

(STRATFOR newsletter)

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: GUEST,patty o'dawes
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 06:42 PM

Reports of a 30 year old man found dead towards the end of the demo. The footage and tone was not too bad up until then. On the whole a peaceful-ish good natured demo. Those intent on breaking windows broke windows, others urged them to stop. The police and public got away pretty unscathed on the whole. I feel for the young man's family tonight.

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: artbrooks
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 06:56 PM

So then, we have world leaders getting together to try to come up with some solution to the international financial mess, and we have protesters objecting to...having a solution to the world financial mess? Nah - they are demonstrating about climate change, power plants, carbon trading, various wars in various places, police objecting to demonstrations, and innumerable other things. Not that many of these don't warrant demonstrations, but what do they all have in common right now? TV cameras.

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 10:20 AM

Turns out the person who died wasn't a protester. He was just trying to get home from work, when a police officer attacked him from behind...

http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com/2009/04/man-dies-now-listen-to-lenin.html

Here's video of the attack...

http://jewssansfrontieres.blogspot.com/2009/04/amateur-video-demolishes-police-story.html


UK police certainly have been distinguishing themselves in the last few years.

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: Rog Peek
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 12:35 PM

As I understand it, people working in the area were advised to 'dress down' presumably so they would not come under attack from the protesters. Unbeknown to them, danger was lurking elsewhere.

Rog

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: GUEST,patty o'dawes
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 03:26 PM

The policeman who carried out the unprovoked assault on Ian has 'handed himself' in today. The enquiry should be interesting.

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: Rog Peek
Date: 09 Apr 09 - 01:10 PM

The police officer in question has since been suspended.

Rog

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: Emma B
Date: 17 Apr 09 - 11:54 AM

It has been reported today that a second post-mortem examination has revealed that the newspaper seller, Ian Tomlinson, hit by a policeman during the recent G20 protests while on his way home from work died from internal bleeding, and not a heart attack as previously thought.

After footage of the incident emerged on the internet a second examination was ordered. link

This was conducted by Dr Nat Carey, one of Britain's most eminent forensic pathologists, last week, on behalf of both Mr Tomlinson's family and the Independent Police Complaints Commission.

A statement from the City of London Coroners' Court said that Dr Carey accepts that there is evidence of heart disease but states that in his opinion "its nature and extent is unlikely to have contributed to the cause of death".

A solcitor for the family said that they have been aware of the findings of the second pathology report for a week and have had to endure the holding back of this information despite continuing reports in the press that Ian died of a heart attack.

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: Emma B
Date: 17 Apr 09 - 12:01 PM

The police officer concerned has now been questioned under suspicion of manslaughter.

Subject: RE: BS: First news from G20
From: Emma B
Date: 17 Apr 09 - 12:55 PM

In the wake of the G20 demonstrations, protester Nicky Fisher was trying to get to the vigil for the dead protester Ian Tomlinson. The police however were employing the controversial technique of 'Kettling'* and would not allow her through.

She claims to have been pushed by a much larger police sergeant and pushed him back, he then hit her across the face with the back of his hand and hit her across the legs with a baton bringing her to the ground - this too was caught on video camera

In fact a baton strike to the legs is the recommended form of 'personal defence' - in this case from being sworn at by a diminutive young woman

What makes this 'news' however is that police sergeant had his epaulette covered while attacking her despite rules which state that they should be 'identifiable at all times'.

Jenny Jones, a member of the Metropolitan Police Authority, said: 'It shows that there is something systemically wrong within the Met that officers think they can openly disobey orders and get away with it.'
A spokesman declined to comment when asked whether the officers would face disciplinary action.


* This is when the police impose cordons on demonstrators and refuse to let anyone from within the cordon leave for what can be hours.
Although ruled legal the police are effectively imprisoning people who may be behaving perfectly peacefully and lawfully and safety is compromised as well as liberty.
Moreover such tactics might be thought to encourage violence in some instances by overreaction
These containment tactics were first used over a long period of time on 1 May 2001 when an anti-capitalist protest at Oxford Circus was corralled by the police for seven hours in bad weather and with no access to toilet facilities.