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Lyr Add: Three Jolly Pigeons (Oliver Goldsmith)

Jim Dixon 20 May 09 - 02:44 PM
MartinRyan 20 May 09 - 07:34 PM
Nigel Parsons 21 May 09 - 07:37 AM
GUEST,mayomick 21 May 09 - 08:41 AM
MartinRyan 21 May 09 - 09:00 AM
GUEST,Seamus McCormack,owner, The Three Jolly Pige 31 May 10 - 07:29 AM
GUEST,kevin sheeran new york 17 Jul 10 - 04:45 PM
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Subject: Lyr Add: THREE JOLLY PIGEONS (Oliver Goldsmith)
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 20 May 09 - 02:44 PM

In another thread, mayomick drew my attention to the fact that there was a connection between Oliver Goldsmith and the Irish alehouse The Three Jolly Pigeons, which is mentioned in the song WHERE THE THREE COUNTIES MEET. Then I found this:

From She Stoops to Conquer: Or, The Mistakes of a Night, Third Edition, (a play) by Oliver Goldsmith (London: F. Newbery, 1773):

S C E N E, An Alehouse Room....

T O N Y.
Then I'll sing you, gentlemen, a song I made upon this ale-house, the Three Pigeons.

S O N G.

Let school-masters puzzle their brain,
With grammar, and nonsense, and learning;
Good liquor, I stoutly maintain,
Gives genus a better discerning.
Let them brag of their Heathenish Gods,
Their Lethes, their Styxes, and Stygians;
Their Quis, and their Quaes, and their Quods,
They're all but a parcel of Pigeons.
Toroddle, toroddle, toroll.

When Methodist preachers come down,
A preaching that drinking is sinful,
I'll wager the rascals a crown,
They always preach best with a skinful.
But when you come down with your pence,
For a slice of their scurvy religion,
I'll leave it to all men of sense,
But you my good friend are the pigeon.
Toroddle, toroddle, toroll.

Then come, put the jorum about,
And let us be merry and clever,
Qur hearts and our liquors are stout,
Here's the Three Jolly Pigeons for ever.
Let some cry up woodcock or hare,
Your bustards, your ducks, and your widgeons;
But of all the birds in the air,
Here's a health to the Three Jolly Pigeons.
Toroddle, toroddle, toroll.

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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Three Jolly Pigeons (Oliver Goldsmith)
From: MartinRyan
Date: 20 May 09 - 07:34 PM

Many's the time I sang in the same hostelry!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Three Jolly Pigeons (Oliver Goldsmith)
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 21 May 09 - 07:37 AM

Brings back the memories. I remember hearing this in the theatre when studying "She stoops to conquer (or the misadventures of a night)" for 'O' level English (1971)
I can almost bring the tune to mind!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Three Jolly Pigeons (Oliver Goldsmith)
From: GUEST,mayomick
Date: 21 May 09 - 08:41 AM

I've never been to the pub ,but will make a point of looking in there some time .Do they still have music in there Martin? Can you remember if the tune is a bit like the one for the Glendalough saint Nigel ? It seems to fit the words nicely.

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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Three Jolly Pigeons (Oliver Goldsmith)
From: MartinRyan
Date: 21 May 09 - 09:00 AM


I no longer live in the area but wouldn't be at all surprised if tunes were still to he heard there! Grogan's pub in Glasson, nearby, is another old musical haunt of mine and still has a weekly session, as far as I know. If you're ever in the area, enquire after "Murray's of Maghera"*, also - well worth a visit on one of its music nights. Be warned that, as you eventually make your way down the byroad to the pub, you pass through a timewarp...


* The placename is pronounced "Mal-rah", believe it or not!

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Subject: Re:The Three Jolly Pigeons Pub,Glasson, Athlone
From: GUEST,Seamus McCormack,owner, The Three Jolly Pige
Date: 31 May 10 - 07:29 AM

Date:31st May 2010
I'm just after coming across this site.
As owner of the above pub I'd like to let you know a little about the pub.It is located about 2 miles from Glasson and 8miles from Athlone on the N55.
Phone: +353 (0)90 6485162
Come and enjoy the hospitality of our Irish pub steeped in tradition. Treat yourself to an enjoyable experience by visiting The Three Jolly Pigeons Pub situated in the heart of Goldsmith Country and see the millstone from the 'busy mill', which worked until the mid-nineteenth century at the pub's entrance.
Traditional music is played here regularly during the summer months.
In fact this coming week-end (Saturday 5th June 2010 from 7.30.p.m until closing time and Sunday 6th June from 10.30.p.m until closing time)we have a fantastis Irish Traditional Music and Ballads Seisiun featuring Audrey Murphy (3 times all-ireland tin whistle and also fiddle and concert flute playe),Seamus Walshe(accordion)and Paraic Keena (Guitar and singer).Everyone is welcome to join in the seisiun.

The pub is associated with Oliver Goldsmith in that it is mentioned in the song by Tony Lumpkin in Goldsmith's famous play "She Stoops To Conquor"(1773).It is also mentioned in the song "Where The Three Counties Meet" sung by Brendan Shine (1973).
As chairman of the Goldsmith International Literary Festival Committee I would like to inform you that we are holding our 26th festival this week-end.For further details look up our website "".

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Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Three Jolly Pigeons (Oliver Goldsmith)
From: GUEST,kevin sheeran new york
Date: 17 Jul 10 - 04:45 PM

i had a wonderful time at THE THREE JOLLY PIGEONS when we stopped for a quick pint on our way to Athlone from Edgworthstown. I and my family were on vacation and my mother in law who grew up in edgworthtown, used to sing WHERE THE THREE COUNTIES MEET. what a great day and what great memories. thanks once more for the hospitality and drink.


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