BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???

Subject: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 11:54 AM

Well, I was a party last night and a few folks was talkin' about how David Carodine killed himself... I thought they were jokin'... Then one said that Coach Dungee's kid had killed himself the smae way???

Hey, first of all, I want to know who first thought that trying to hang yerself by "both heads" would make fir cool sex and...

...secondly, WTF'n kinda sex is that, anyway???

I mean, Geeze Lousie... World full of fine lookin' womenz and guys gotta go doin' this???

Beam me up...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 12:13 PM

Been going on for years and years, Bobert. The idea is that a masturbating hanging man gets a really, really big one on and enjoys a massive climax. Tying the other head up helps to keep it get bigger and bigger by preventing the blood flow from returning to the bod the first time. Kinky, yeah. Cops see it a lot with teenage boys, in fact they usually suspect it if they find a teen boy who's hung himself -- and lots of times they have good reason, like sex pix strewn around and his tool a-dangling out of his pants. In fact, the person who usually does this sort of thing IS a teenage boy or a guy in their very early 20s. Some guys get away with it, but all too often they, shall we say?, get carried away....

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 12:19 PM

Give it a shot Bobertz......Maybe you'll like it. Try half a dozen Viagra first, followed by an OD of Vitamin E and three dozen oysters.   Then double up on the knots and I figure you'll either die or blow the back wall out of your closet!

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 12:40 PM

AUTOEROTIC ASPHYXIATION. Google it...

I understand that B&D folks especially like it. Sometimes they do it, not autoerotically, but in a twosome.

Nothing new. You never heard of it as a social worker?!?!?

Ask any urban cop.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 12:41 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoerotic_asphyxiation

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 12:42 PM

What happened to women?   Ain't they good enough any more? (disturbingly puzzled smiley)

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 01:00 PM

Well, whatever honks yer horn. I've spent so much time trying to avoid death that I'll honk MY horn some other way. Besides, it's lonely.

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 01:08 PM

Well, call me old-fashioned, but...having read that link, that's just plain 'orrible.   You've got to be a bit peculiar upstairs and down to find that exciting.

Blimey O'Reilly, that's enough to put you off your toast and marmalade of a morning!

Can you imagine the conversation!

"Pardon me, but you want to do WHAT, dear?" (Bloody YIKES! smiley)

It'd be like one of those Bob Newhart records...

Cor lummee! I've come over all come over, now.

Take me back to the 1500's when the strange ones hadn't discovered that kind of er..er..erm...stuff.

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: David C. Carter
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 01:08 PM

I heard this is very populer with boy scouts.

They're into tying things up, using knots and stuff.

Can't speak for the Girl Guides though,never joined meself!

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 01:17 PM

I tend to prefer simpler pleasures.

I mean, wotthehell! Sex the old fashioned way (with a partner of the opposite gender) may rarely be lethal, but it can sometimes be dangerous enough!!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 01:29 PM

I mentioned in the obit thread that this is common in the death statistics. They say suicide, but chance are good that this was involved. I had an acquaintance years ago who it turns out died with a plastic bag over his head for the same reason. He was in his mid-30s. It doesn't get mentioned in the news report, but word gets around.

It's an accidental death but seems to be ruled suicide to spare the family's feelings.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 01:31 PM

Well, I ain't been a social worker for 25 years now, WYSusie, but I never heard of this 'til last night at this party... But back when I was a social worker, yeah, my clients were mostly nuts but not f'n nuts...

I even had a little talk with Mr. Happy 'bout this... I said, "Yo, Hap... If I ever think about hangin' myself do you want in???"

Without havin' to think Hap answered back, "No, Boberdz... You do what ever dymbass thing you want but leave my ass out, ya hear..."

Man, this is a very disturbing little developement here... I thought I knew alot stuff but I guess I don't know squat...

B???

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Alice
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 01:34 PM

I heard of this first back in the '80's when I met the widow of a man who died this way. He was in is 30's. They had a daughter about 8 yrs old. It was pretty awkward whenever people would ask with concern about her husband's accidental death. I don't think it's always hanging... self choking with something around the neck, not always hanging. Scary that people do this.

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 02:01 PM

Folks, the first thing you have to realize is that human biological urges are not exactly governed 100% by the intelligent forebrain.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 02:03 PM

Sadly, when it comes to sex, if it's possible, it's been tried. I learned about a lot during 2 years working at an 'enlightened' adult bookstore. And the internet has made it possible for like-minded people to find each other, and for others to 'discover' stuff they never knew existed.
   It's a real cultural shock for many, and it's hard to know how it will all play out, since there is VERY little in education to explain & put things into perspective to help young folks to sort it out.

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 02:28 PM

I first learned of it back in the early '60s, from a book in the local library.

The book warned against it and I was never really tempted to try it even without the warning, no matter how much ol' hormones were raging at the time.

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 02:40 PM

There was a television series on HBO some time back called "Six Feet Under." It won an Emmy and a Golden Globe award, but I didn't see it until, on someone's recommendation, I watched a few episodes on NetFlix DVDs. It was about the very dysfunctional Fischer family who ran a funeral home. The first episode began with the accidental death of the funeral director, and his two sons inherited the business.

Weird series!!

Anyway, each episode began with someone's death, and within the first five minutes of the episode, the victim wound up at the Fischer Mortuary, and the story took off from there.

One episode began with a man stringing a rope up, standing on a chair, putting a noose around his neck, and unzipping his fly. . . .

Really weird series!! Very well done, but weird!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 02:50 PM

I don't think I can cope too well with 2009. The humans have gone nuts.

Couldn't we just bring back Love? The world was such a nicer place when we had Love, not just Sex. I feel that for so many young people, it's become nothing more than a physical function and that's sooooo sad.

God, we've lost something precious, haven't we.

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: wysiwyg
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 03:01 PM

AEA goes back a long way. You are just now hearing about it.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 03:13 PM

"God, we've lost something precious, haven't we?"

Not all of us. The majority still have mostly 'standard' ideas about sex & love. (Although 'standard' is a pretty relative term. I remember reading a quote once that said "Excessive sex is what is done by anyone who does it more than YOU do.")

The same ability to dream & create that make humans 'above' the animals also can lead them into realm the animals never approach. We have brains that can contemplate deviation, and WE are responsible to use those brains to monitor ourselves. It can be quite a task.....

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 03:14 PM

This is where Homo sapiens fall off the turnip truck. We have advanced intelligence that often just gets in the way of "doing the what comes naturally." As the late, great, Allen Sherman noted in "The Rape of the A.P.E.," only man practices what he calls "thinkery-fuckery." Do you think a wart hog is bothered by premature ejaculation?   Do pumas look for new and exciting ways to practice the act of sex. When the smell of a bitch in heat is in the air, dogs will happily hump anything available and never think twice......or indeed once!

On the other hand, humans have a laundry list a mile long of sexual dysfunction. We have a FIVE mile laundry list of ways to address the first list. I'm sure there is probably something that hasn't been tried yet but to tell you the truth, I hate to even try and make up something funny because it has probably been done somewhere.........


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 03:20 PM

Yeah, Spaw, it has. Including...never mind.

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 04:41 PM

I am almost sure that dolphins have been reported indulging in recreational sex.

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 04:49 PM

With whom, Richard?   LOL

I'll never be able to look at Flipper in quite the same way again... :0)

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 04:53 PM

The thing is...

Are men programmed to want sex, and women programmed to want love?

And if so, why?

Survival of the Species? Or, is God *really* a man? ;0)


And what about Swans?

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: akenaton
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 05:15 PM

I agree with Lizzie humanity has gone mad and we have lost something precious.

A lot of dangerous sexual activity is the result of psychological stress and conditioning by the "wonderful" pornography industry, which is all encompassing.

I also agree that a man, a woman, love and the desire to reproduce, can never be supplanted.

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: bobad
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 05:36 PM

"Are men programmed to want sex, and women programmed to want love?"

In strictly biological terms they are both "programmed", as are all animals, to promote their genetic material through procreation. The male, as inseminator, is advantaged in this quest by inseminating as much as possible whereas the female is advantaged by providing the best conditions for the survival of the carrier of her genetic material. In the terminology of our social structure that would translate to sex for the male and love, being the glue for the security and stability of the social unit, for the female.

Or something like that.

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: TheSilentOne
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 05:46 PM

Pornography and I am sure sexual "deviance" seem to have existed for as long as humans have. For "deviant" just substitute "different" and accept that we all are?

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: akenaton
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 05:57 PM

Did you not see the word "industry", silent one?

I don't understand your remark about pornography existing as long as humanity, are you referring to fertility symbols etc?

Hard core pornography seems to me a modern invention and something completely different.....abuse of our minds and bodies for financial reward.

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: gnu
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 06:15 PM

If you can't row the boat, whatever floats your boat?

Hmmmm... normally, trying to make a joke about near anything is what I do. Somehow, this just makes me feel... yeeeccchhhh. Pretty sad stuff.

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: akenaton
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 06:27 PM

Agreed gnu!

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Jack Campin
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 07:21 PM

It was a well-enough-known kink in the UK decades ago that it forms the opening sequence of the film "The Ruling Class" (1972).

Maybe somebody can do a Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon to link Carradine with Peter O'Toole.

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 07:22 PM

Commonly heard advice that is sometimes accurate:

"Aw come on and do it

It only seems kinky the first couple of times."

John

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 07:32 PM

As has been said about plain old masturbation: It's fun, it's available, and you don't have to go home in the cold...but it's lonely.

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 07:35 PM

Pornography has been around for centuries. No, not fertility statues and symbols. It got a real boost during the Victorian era due to the repressive attitudes prevalent at the time, but it existed long before then.

Nothing new. Nothing that can be effectively stopped

Not that I approve of pornography. I don't approve of people getting drunk on their butts seven nights a week either, but look how well Prohibition worked out.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: meself
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 07:46 PM

'Commonly heard advice ...

"Aw come on and do it

It only seems kinky the first couple of times."'


Funny - I've never heard that particular advice ...

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: frogprince
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 07:53 PM

Any of you ever hear of, or see, the Japanese movie "In the Realm of the Senses"? Late '70s or early '80s. I made the mistake of paying admission to be subjected to it. The fact that it was hardcore wasn't the problem. The entire "plot" is a guy and his mistress getting more and more "carried away". It ends with her strangling him fatally while "riding" on top, and then, in highly realistic depiction, cutting off "everything" with a butcher knife. Fade to text saying that the police found her wandering around a few days later, carrying "what she had cut off" in a basket. I can't imagine any male being glad that he had seen that movie.

1. I can't imagine any intelligent person recommending AES as a good idea.
2. As an offhand example related to determining what is "deviant": the great Pat Robertson has, in print, noted that oral sex is not really appropriate for Christian folks because (approximate quote) "It's something that homosexual people do a lot". (Remember that Robertson considered himself qualified to run for President?)
3. Once everyone knew the intellectual distinctions that separated man from all other animals. Little by little, the old lines have been muddied by new discoveries. I think I've sussed out the one absolute distinction:

Of all the animals, only human beings have ever worried about whether it is morally right to lick each others genitals.

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 08:04 PM

(Well, Boberdz... Here ya' go startin' another thread- and reading the posts- that you wished you'd never started...)

Yup, TMI...

I'll stick with the P-Vine, thank you... And, BTW, I have arrived at a stage in life where love and sex go hand in hand (so to speak)... No love... No sex... Wasn't always like that but sho nuff works fine these days...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Art Thieme
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 08:22 PM

I was aghast when I first read on Yahoo about how he died--. I even mentioned it in another thread.

But I'm left wondering what a friend of mine's grandparents were doing. Old granddad had a wooden leg--and from the way they both were found, it was obvious they died during sex. They never were sure of what killed him, but she, the papers and the radio and the TV and the coroner all said, had died of terminal slivers. Oh, the humanity!!

Art

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Joe_F
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 08:31 PM

WYSIWYG/Susan: No need for the cop to be urban. Some years ago a friend of my killed himself that way in the wilds of Louisa County, Virginia. The sheriff knew all about it.

*

frogprince: I have heard, also, that human beings, alone among the animals, can learn to throw things accurately.

However, there are machines that can do that. A thing that (I have heard) no other animal *and no machine* can do is pick up a 6-32 screw & a 6-32 hex nut from a tray full of both and put the nut on the screw. We, however, can do it in the dark. Somehow, that ability was selected for while we were running over the African savanna with massive curly hair.

A mad world, my masters!

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 08:53 PM

It only seems kinky the first couple of times."'
Funny - I've never heard that particular advice ...

See. Once you've done it enough times it's hardly worth talkin' about.


Re: As has been said about plain old masturbation ... ...:

A line from the movie "Jumpin' Jack Flash:"

"Don't knock masturbation. It's sex with someone I LOVE!"

(Also a standard sound clip you can use as a "notify" sound in an old Windows accessory kit.)

John

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 09:01 PM

"Sex without perversion is like food without salt" - or so I have heard said.

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: gnu
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 09:17 PM

I am on a salt free diet. Same with sex.

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: catspaw49
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 09:28 PM

Try putting some salt on your dick..............

Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 09:45 PM

We used to be served donkey dick in the Army....

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: frogprince
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 09:50 PM

The Navy was different; we had "horse cock" to eat every so often.







(If anyone is going "WTF?", that's round slices of cold-cut)

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Don Firth
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 09:52 PM

I've heard the the Brits have something called "spotted dick." Does this come from having sex with someone you shouldn't have?

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Art Thieme
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 11:37 PM

That's from a leopard!

Art

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: GUEST,young and shocked
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 11:49 PM

oh this is all sooo gross.. you dirty ol' granpas !

Subject: RE: BS: WTF Kinda Sex is This???
From: Bill D
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 11:53 PM

As you get older, you'll be less shocked.