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Lyr Req: One song for each old English County

Murpholly 15 Jun 09 - 03:13 PM
GUEST,Paul Burke Cookieless 15 Jun 09 - 03:52 PM
JeffB 15 Jun 09 - 03:55 PM
Sue the Borderer 15 Jun 09 - 04:15 PM
McGrath of Harlow 15 Jun 09 - 05:34 PM
Jack Campin 15 Jun 09 - 06:19 PM
Tug the Cox 15 Jun 09 - 08:07 PM
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Subject: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: Murpholly
Date: 15 Jun 09 - 03:13 PM

Have decided we really ought to know at least one song from each of the old English counties. Some are really easy but are having trouble with some:- e.g. Rutland; and actually tying down songs to a particular county as some range all over the place. Any help out there? It is so easy in Ireland - all 32 counties.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: GUEST,Paul Burke Cookieless
Date: 15 Jun 09 - 03:52 PM

Shake Rutland Roll?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: JeffB
Date: 15 Jun 09 - 03:55 PM

Do you mean songs that mention county names? Or songs that were collected in each of the old counties?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: Sue the Borderer
Date: 15 Jun 09 - 04:15 PM

I posted to this - and it's disappeared!

I ran a theme evening a few years ago at the club I go to - Bideford, Devon when the aim was to mention every county or a place within it (no cheating with substitutions).
It didn't have to be traditional - so The Wymondham Fight by Bill Meek was ideal for Rutland
Chorus - To Rutlandshire, to Rutlandshire all roads in England lead
For Cribb is fighting Molyneaux and that is sport indeed.

And - in order to achieve my aim I wrote a song including the 40 counties mapped in Peter Kennedy's book in 1975 (which actually includes Monmouthsire but not Middlesex, so I put that in too.)

But - perhaps you are just looking for traditional stuff.
Let us know - and Good Luck with it.

Sue


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 15 Jun 09 - 05:34 PM

Anyone got a copy of English_County_Songs, published in 1893, "Words and Music Collected and Edited by Lucy E. Broadwood and J.A. Fuller Maitland M.A., F.S.A"?

"As can be seen from these groupings, particularly the last one, there was a somewhat arbitrary nature to the allocation to a particular grouping, and the appropriateness of its title (for instance, Wiltshire has been included in the grouping for the South Coast, and large tranches of various of the other counties are nowhere near a coastline!)

Three counties were also missing from the overall collection - Monmouthshire, Bedfordshire and Huntingdonshire.

The actual allocation of songs to particular counties was also somewhat less than accurate. In one or two instances a song collected in one particular county has been allocated to another because it was known that the version in question was sung there, or because the singer had actual associations with the county in question, although no longer living there. "


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: Jack Campin
Date: 15 Jun 09 - 06:19 PM

Filling a gap, maybe (this is generally considered a Scottish tune, I haven't looked into the story behind it):

X:1
T:Huntington Castle
M:6/8
L:1/8
Q:3/8=72
K:E Minor
B,|E>FE G2A |B2A F>ED|E>FE G2A |B>AB d2
e |f>ed B>dB|A>BA FED |E>FE GAB |A>GF E2:|
d |e>fe d>cB|A>BA F>ED|Eee e>fg|fe^d e2
f |g>af e>fd|BdA F>ED|E>FE GAB |AGF E2:|


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 15 Jun 09 - 08:07 PM

Would that be HuntingDon in what is now Camdridgeshire, or HuntingTon, presumably somwhere in Scotland?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: Jack Campin
Date: 15 Jun 09 - 08:35 PM

I just looked it up. Seems to be in Wales. Oh well.

Huntingdonshire has a parish called Ellington so that should offer a few options.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: Gurney
Date: 16 Jun 09 - 01:57 AM

I believe that 'The Keeper' (..Did a hunting go, and under his cloak he carried a bow) is from Warwickshire. One of very few.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: Brakn
Date: 16 Jun 09 - 04:00 AM

So, is there a list somewhere? What would you sing for Cheshire?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 16 Jun 09 - 04:05 AM

What would you sing for Cheshire?

The Miller of Dee


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: Brakn
Date: 16 Jun 09 - 04:08 AM

Good one. Any more?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: Mr Happy
Date: 16 Jun 09 - 04:15 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_of_Dee


also

'Here's to Cheshire, here's to cheese
Here's to the pears and the apple trees
And here's to the lovely strawberries
Ding dang dong go the wedding bells!'


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 16 Jun 09 - 04:36 AM

My all time favourite traditional song has strong Cheshire links - Young Bucks A-Hunting Go; no surprise that Chester-born Randolph Caldecott should have illustrated it in his Fox Jumps Over the Parsons Gate (1883) which inspired the Peter Bellamy version.

Otherwise, The Farmer from Cheshire springs to mind; you can find the words Here.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 16 Jun 09 - 06:13 AM

There's the Cheshire May day song as well, as sung by the Wilsons on 'Stocking Tops'.

Please say you used 'The Dorsetshire Militia' rather than 'Dorset is beautiful'....? Oh well... one day!

LTS


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: Terry McDonald
Date: 16 Jun 09 - 06:43 AM

There's also Graham Moore's 'Captain Swing' with its 'All over Dorset' chorus.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jun 09 - 06:54 AM

Related previous thread: England's County Anthems


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: greg stephens
Date: 16 Jun 09 - 06:59 AM

Cheshire has almost the most famous folksong of all, the Farmer's Boy.
As a slight side issue, Monmouthshire was always pedantically stated to be in England when I was a lad, even though everybody thought of it as being in Wales. Nowadays, it seems to have firmly migrated back into Wales, technically and popularly. So, when and how did that happen?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: GUEST
Date: 16 Jun 09 - 07:02 AM

Nowadays, [Monmouthshire] seems to have firmly migrated back into Wales, technically and popularly. So, when and how did that happen?

From Wikipedia: Between the 16th and 20th centuries there was some ambiguity as to whether the county was part of Wales or England, but since 1974 the area has been placed definitively in Wales.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 16 Jun 09 - 07:11 AM

Cheshire, "3 rogues of Lymm".


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: Mr Happy
Date: 16 Jun 09 - 07:21 AM

....hmmmn, isn't it "3 jolly rogues of Lyn"?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: Mr Happy
Date: 16 Jun 09 - 07:23 AM

@displaysong.cfm?SongID=7307


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: One song for each old English County
From: IanC
Date: 16 Jun 09 - 07:30 AM

Jolly Rogues of Lynn


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