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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: goatfell Date: 05 Jul 09 - 10:20 AM ok Don't know what you're talking about but OK |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: wysiwyg Date: 05 Jul 09 - 10:03 AM Misread post: Please don't take this lightly. We ignited one lady once... (Please don't take this lightly. We ignored one lady once) ~S~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: goatfell Date: 05 Jul 09 - 09:09 AM as I say I'm don't want to be invovled with a catfight and as some else said when are people going to act like grown ups instead of wee children. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: Don(Wyziwyg)T Date: 05 Jul 09 - 09:06 AM Oil on troubled waters, well it made me laugh. A father was talking to another parent at the school gates, who was moaning about the difficulties of parking her four wheel drive (S.U.V.) when bringing her kid to school. "Well, why don't you let him WALK to school?" He asked She screeched "WALK to school, Don't you know there's PERVERTS out there just waiting to pounce?" He said "Look lady my son walks to this catholic school, where he is taught all day by catholic priests. The WALK is the SAFEST part of his day". Don T. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: pdq Date: 04 Jul 09 - 11:33 AM Some cows should be put out to Pasteur, no doubt about it. Especially the sacred ones. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: olddude Date: 04 Jul 09 - 11:27 AM Now Charlie has the right idea, how about lauging far better than fighting I think |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: Charley Noble Date: 04 Jul 09 - 10:53 AM Why all this hoopla about pastors on the airways? I mean, we've had pasteurization for years. There really shouldn't be so much controversy. Well, maybe some cows might object but what do they know? It's not as if it were divine to be bovine! It's just do much crying over spilled milk as far as I'm concerned. Cheerily, Charley Ignoble |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: olddude Date: 04 Jul 09 - 10:12 AM One of the things that really pisses me off bigtime is how we tend to treat each other from time to time. Goatfell had a point to make, he was corrected and told that it was a hoax and that should have been it. Instead it is this slamming and name calling ... How old are some of the people here, think a minute, how would you feel if someone said those things to you .. and was that necessary, did it help another person who mistakely thought it maybe true. Only thing it did was upset another and cause hurt feelings. Most people on this site are people we have known for sometime now, hurting their feeling, does that make you feel like the big man on campus .. Knock it off |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: GUEST Date: 04 Jul 09 - 07:55 AM "that is like saying I'm not s racist but...." And your response is not unlike saying "criticise my government, or my Queen, or my president.... and you attack my people or my country", which is, of course, dangerous nonsense. Access to the public's mind via the media is not an automatic right,but a privilege granted to the very few (as we involved in folk music know to our cost), and it must come with responsibilities. There can be little doubt (certainly not in the light of recent events), that the church cannot be trusted to fulfil those responsibilities, and so forfeit any rights they might have had in the past to those privileges. I don't know if you are familiar with the horrific details of the Ryan report - if not - why not lift the lid and smell the sewerage. Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: goatfell Date: 04 Jul 09 - 06:17 AM sorry for writing that |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: goatfell Date: 04 Jul 09 - 06:13 AM Jim Carroll, that is like saying I'm not s racist but.... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: Jim Carroll Date: 04 Jul 09 - 04:22 AM Sorry Joe, I meant no disrespect to anybody of a religious persuasion - people are free to believe what they wish. However, the revelations of the appaling events that have taken place, here in Ireland in church-run institutions have been handled (to put it mildly) less than well by both church and government. I have no idea how the the clergy have behaved in like institutions in the U.S. (or if such institutions existed), but I do know that similar events took place in Canada, if not on the same scale. I am in no way in favour of the suppression of ideas, religious or otherwise, but neither am I in favour of the granting of privileges to those who in the past have abused them. Religion should be a private matter of personal choice, not something that is foisted on us by the establishment from our childhood, as it has been throughout my life, and still is. Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: Joe Offer Date: 04 Jul 09 - 03:55 AM
Since this was said by Jim Carroll and repeated by Crow Sister, I gotta say something. I doubt if any of the notorious clergy who worked in Irish schools, have considered getting into television broadcasting in the United States. In fact, since most of the Irish schools were closed by the end of the 1970's, I doubt that many of the staff members are getting into any sort of employment anywhere. In other words, I think your logic is seriously flawed. I can't say I have a very good opinion of religious broadcasters in the United States. As a moderately progressive Catholic, I am particularly appalled by the way the right-wingers have the corner on almost all Catholic broadcasts in the U.S. Still, I don't like the idea of suppression of any sort of broadcasting, no matter how distasteful it is to me. -Joe- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: catspaw49 Date: 04 Jul 09 - 02:26 AM So the Cocker turned out to be a weiner dog huh? Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: Amergin Date: 04 Jul 09 - 02:11 AM Spaw...it's cool...he already served his time for immoral behaviour....even though it was suspended....because that dog bit him....and the judge who happened to be male thought that was punishment enough.... so lay off him....geeze... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: catspaw49 Date: 04 Jul 09 - 01:54 AM "Many of us have 'screwed the pooch'......." Yeah, I guess you have! I saw that picture of you and the Cocker Spaniel.......Pretty weird Man.....Ya' know that's against the law in most places? I'd get that picture off Facebook if I were you.......... Spaw |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: Peace Date: 04 Jul 09 - 12:41 AM goatfell, not to worry. Many of us have 'screwed the pooch' (made mistakes) about internet/e-mail rumours. I'm one of 'em. In the words of the bishop after he swallowed a dime: "This too shall pass, my son." You have been very nice about things, and people who took shots at you for having screwed up will likely learn from that, too. Keep well. Bruce |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: goatfell Date: 03 Jul 09 - 09:27 AM thank you |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: Cllr Date: 03 Jul 09 - 09:23 AM http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/snopes.png |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: goatfell Date: 03 Jul 09 - 08:49 AM at lest there some people on this mudcat that are decent not all but some. Thankyou |
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Subject: RE: BS: Pastor removal from televison (Scam email) From: artbrooks Date: 03 Jul 09 - 08:39 AM It was sufficient for the original poster to have been advised that this was an internet rumor that had been previously debunked. It was more than adequate for him (her?) to have been provided information about how to check these things out. It is entirely unnecessary for him to be skinned alive - repeatedly - for not doing so up front. Enough, already! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison (Scam email) From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Date: 03 Jul 09 - 03:22 AM "These clerics raped and physically abused children in their care, ruining their lives and in some cases, ending them, while their superiors and the state stood by and did nothing. As far as I am concerned, the further away from normal people these 'servants of god' can be kept, the better. Jim Carroll" Amen! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison (Scam email) From: Peace Date: 02 Jul 09 - 09:19 PM Petition for the Removal of Religious Teachers and Pastors From the Airwaves - Fiction! Summary of the eRumor: A forwarded email warning readers of an organization that is petitioning the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to remove religious teachers and pastors from the airwaves. The email goes on to urge readers to sign another petition to keep the broadcasters on the air. The Truth: This eRumor is Fiction and is a variation of an old myth that dates back to 1975 about self proclaimed atheist Madeline Murray O'Hair trying to remove religious content from the airwaves. Click here for original findings. According to the Federal Communications web site, there was a petition RM-2493, but it was filed by a couple of fellows who felt that churches and religious organizations should not be operating so many FM radio frequencies that are classed as "educational." In December of 1974, they asked the FCC to take several actions including freezing all new applications from religious organizations seeking educational frequencies and regulating the content of religiously operated stations. This prompted religious broadcasters to ask for public response to the FCC on the matter and the FCC eventually issued a ruling that was favorable to the religious broadcasters. Click here for FCC statement Another version of this eRumor warns that O'Hair is trying to remove references to God on the television program "Touched By an Angel." Click for this version updated 1/14/09 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison (Scam email) From: meself Date: 02 Jul 09 - 08:26 PM "meself, namecalling in return doesn't seem a productive action" It's fun, though. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison (Scam email) From: goatfell Date: 02 Jul 09 - 07:08 PM thank you meself |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison (Scam email) From: Ebbie Date: 02 Jul 09 - 07:02 PM meself, namecalling in return doesn't seem a productive action. Perennial victimhood is not pleasant. Goatfell, I think that a response to factual errors - as in posting false information - is bound to range widely. Most of it, you might note, is fairly mild. No one has hurt you personally or has wished to. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison (Scam email) From: Bill D Date: 02 Jul 09 - 06:57 PM The 'news' would be if people quite sending sanctimonious idiots like Joel Osteen and all that crew money! Still, I wouldn't like a law preventing people from being idiots & supporting them. I might like a law that requires monitors for silly rumors and makes people check & ask before they pass on silly rumors. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison (Scam email) From: meself Date: 02 Jul 09 - 06:51 PM Really! Ease up on the guy, ya buncha pompous prigs. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison (Scam email) From: goatfell Date: 02 Jul 09 - 06:27 PM Is this right allowing people on the mudcat saying nasty things about me. at lest when I say something nasty I say I'm sorry for writing that nasty post, but here mudcat people are having a go at me and getting away with it. All I did was copy an e-mail I was sent that is all, but now I have been called An Idiot and to quote PoppaGator, Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: PoppaGator - PM Date: 02 Jul 09 - 03:46 PM Yeah, what is a "paster," anyway? Someone who copies-and-pastes crap from the internet without checking it out first? I had thought about mentioning that obvious spelling error earlier. Sometimes the "mudelves" make that kind of correction to a thread title. why do you and friends allow this to happen? Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: Wesley S - PM Date: 02 Jul 09 - 02:02 PM "I didn't sign it, I just got the e-mail and now I'm being shot down in flames by puting it on to Mudcat cafe." HELL YES - Because you passed it along. Any idiot should know by now that you can't trust information that you hear first on the internet. You're willing to pass it along without doing any research. NOW - are you willing to send these links to the person who sent you this rumor? And the other folks you sent this rumor to? Answer please. This is just some of the post that I have been getting, at lest I say I'm sorry as I always say if you have nothing good to say, say nothing at all |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: PoppaGator Date: 02 Jul 09 - 03:46 PM Yeah, what is a "paster," anyway? Someone who copies-and-pastes crap from the internet without checking it out first? I had thought about mentioning that obvious spelling error earlier. Sometimes the "mudelves" make that kind of correction to a thread title. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 02 Jul 09 - 03:40 PM Pasters aren't same as pastors. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: Jim Carroll Date: 02 Jul 09 - 02:59 PM Here in Ireland we are experiencing the backwash of the Ryan report on decades of abuse of children at the hands of clerics under whom they have been put in trust. These clerics raped and physically abused children in their care, ruining their lives and in some cases, ending them, while their superiors and the state stood by and did nothing. As far as I am concerned, the further away from normal people these 'servants of god' can be kept, the better. Jim Carroll |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: Alice Date: 02 Jul 09 - 02:41 PM Yup, check snopes.com and then remember to include the word HOAX in the subject line when you post the hoax email from your friend on mudcat.... and always hit 'reply all' to the email and put hoax in the subject line with the link to snopes. I don't object to the hoax emails being discussed here, because it helps to inform people of the truth about them, but I sure wish people would check snopes first and be aware that the emails are not true when creating the subject line and first message. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: goatfell Date: 02 Jul 09 - 02:35 PM thank you I 'll do that |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: Amos Date: 02 Jul 09 - 02:33 PM Goatfell: Cheer up and start making a habit of visiting Snopes.com (click) and looking for wild-assed stories like this one designed to spread fear and hatred. Further, send them back to the originator with correction, rather than promulgating them on web sites like Mudcat. This is basic hygiene, like washing your hands after you pick up shit. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: goatfell Date: 02 Jul 09 - 02:18 PM getting shot down in flames again |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: goatfell Date: 02 Jul 09 - 02:17 PM and neither are you here is you post to me I didn't sign it, I just got the e-mail and now I'm being shot down in flames by puting it on to Mudcat cafe." HELL YES - Because you passed it along. Any idiot should know by now that you can't trust information that you hear first on the internet. You're willing to pass it along without doing any research. NOW - are you willing to send these links to the person who sent you this rumor? And the other folks you sent this rumor to? Answer please. as I say I don't want a cat fight and I am a decent person at lest I don't call people on the mud cat cafe Idiot, unlike you. let bygones be bygones |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: Jack Blandiver Date: 02 Jul 09 - 02:16 PM Atheists are petitioning the FCC to get religious broadcasting banned from American airwaves. FALSE A good idea though, surely? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: meself Date: 02 Jul 09 - 02:16 PM "Any idiot should know by now ... " What is it you were spitting, then? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: goatfell Date: 02 Jul 09 - 02:14 PM I don't want a catfight, I just past on the information that is all. and as say I'm not an IDIOT right |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: Wesley S Date: 02 Jul 09 - 02:11 PM I have no doubt that Goatfell is a very decent person. But I would also refute that I am spitting fire. Just making a point. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: goatfell Date: 02 Jul 09 - 02:11 PM One I am not an Idiot two I just past on the e-mail three I told them it was a hoax |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: PoppaGator Date: 02 Jul 09 - 02:10 PM We have two local PBS television stations; one, WLAE, is operated by the Catholic archdiocese. WLAE shows some PBS shows that are not aired on the more established WYES, shows some of the same programs but at different times, and provides more classroom-type instructional programs and a little more "public access" than the other PBS station. They also broadcast one relgious service (Catholic Mass) every day ~ very early in the morning on weekdays, midmorning (9 or 10 or so) on Sundays. There is no other regularly-scheduled programming that could be described as sectarian or religious. Very recently, their federal funding came up for renewal and there was some sort of ruling that they would have to stop airing the masses. There was a bit of controversy, and soon the objection was dropped and they are continuing there longstanding policy. New Orleans is probably the only American city where Catholics outnumber Protestants (and all other religions). The televised services apparently have a sizeable and loyal viewership, which rose up and expressed itself in petitions, etc. Televangelists and other producers of religious programming generally buy time on commercial stations. This situation is unusual (perhaps even unique) in that (a) the station is publicly-funded, at least in part, and (b) it is owned and operated by a religious institution. I can see where some would argue that permitting these broadcasts on a PBS station is some kind of violation of the separation of church and state. I don't think it's so very ciritical to press that point. The programming in question is strongly desired by a significant poriton of the community, and those who are not interested have plenty of other choices (if indeed they're watching TV at 6 am on weekdays). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies) Date: 02 Jul 09 - 02:08 PM Alright Wesley S - I think in general Goatfell's comments are that of a very decent person. So, he got fooled by this email, it happens. Nothing to start spitting fire over. Let's move along now... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: meself Date: 02 Jul 09 - 02:07 PM Goatfell - This is at least the third bogus e-mail that has been copied to Mudcat within the last three days, and at least one other provocative "urban myth" appeared in the same period of time. Many other frantic copies of frantic e-mails have appeared here and been discredited over the years, so you can't blame people for getting a little impatient with them. These e-mails usually have a blatantly right-wing, reactionary message ... So don't take it personally - but it's a good idea to check Snopes before copying and sending one of those copied e-mails. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: Wesley S Date: 02 Jul 09 - 02:02 PM "I didn't sign it, I just got the e-mail and now I'm being shot down in flames by puting it on to Mudcat cafe." HELL YES - Because you passed it along. Any idiot should know by now that you can't trust information that you hear first on the internet. You're willing to pass it along without doing any research. NOW - are you willing to send these links to the person who sent you this rumor? And the other folks you sent this rumor to? Answer please. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: Stilly River Sage Date: 02 Jul 09 - 01:56 PM It's wishful thinking, getting all of that religious crap off of television. It isn't going to happen, they're too entrenched. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: Richard Bridge Date: 02 Jul 09 - 01:53 PM It would do the USA and the rest of the world a great deal of good if ALL religious propaganda was banned from the airwaves (and schools), and if ALL broadcast material were subject to enforceable and enforced balance and truth requirements. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: goatfell Date: 02 Jul 09 - 01:52 PM I didn't sign it, I just got the e-mail and now I'm being shot down in flames by puting it on to Mudcat cafe. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Paster removal from televison From: Jim Dixon Date: 02 Jul 09 - 01:51 PM Petition to Ban Religious Broadcasting Claim: Atheists are petitioning the FCC to get religious broadcasting banned from American airwaves. FALSE (Click the link to see the full article at Snopes.) |
