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Getaway 2009 Program Planning

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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 05:11 PM

Good to hear from you, Mike! It's been a long time! We will definitely look forward to seeing you in 2010!

Dan, as wonderful as it would be to have Pete do the cooking this year (or any year), it's not to be. The camp will not allow it. Not to mention the fact that Pete is coming as our invited guest, and we'd like to make sure he has a good, relaxing time, which would not be the case if he had to cook...

Some good ideas percolating here -- keep it up!

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 01:55 PM

Tawmmie and I are finishing up our final year of working before retirement. Although we won't be able to attend in 2009, we are hoping to see you all again in 2010. It will be good to share a song or two and see what mischief can be had at that year's Getaway. So keep us in your thoughts and look for us to be there next year.

Mike


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 01:01 PM

Ah, Severn, you are about to discover the delights of Pete the Spy. I wouldn't put it past Pete to know several songs in Icelandic.

Speaking of which, any chance we could get them to let Pete do the cooking?

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 12:53 PM

Or we could do roasting songs, created for the purpose. I volunteer to write the "Man of Emms" roasting song. It will have aurochs, arcane recipes, endless streams of second-hand sprats, and tatting in it.


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: My guru always said
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 12:35 PM

How about 'As I walked out....'?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Severn
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 12:33 PM

Good idea, Dan. If some of, say, the Brits or the Alaskans don't make it, we can sing songs associated with them, and if needs be, can babble anything tunefully and pass it off as Icelandic,(I slander you not!) or one of us with Skarpi's CD can learn something phonetically.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 11:41 AM

That's not all we're doing, Leo. We're starting a "Pay MMario's Family to Stop Getting Married" fund. What is this, three years in a row?

Which brings me to the program idea - because this is a programming thread - "Songs from Absent Friends."

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: MMario
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 10:10 AM

Add me into the "Get Skarpi to Getaway" donors.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: JedMarum
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 09:43 AM

I wish I could join you - bit it's not in the cards for 2009. I'll be thinking of you.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 08:24 AM

Ditto re: Skarpi. Anyone want to put that together?

Dani


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: kendall
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 05:22 AM

How about a frailing banjo workshop, or a storytelling workshop? I'd be glad to lead the storytelling.

Ifthere is a fund to get Skarpi over here, let me know and I will gladly contribute.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Severn
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 03:13 AM

Like, but not nescessarily confined to the Chinese calendar, We should pick an animal each year and make a workshop of it. Combinations, maybe. Mules and burros, marsupials, crows and ravens perhaps.....

Or garden vegatables-from Guy Clark's "Home Grown Tomatoes" to "Oh My God, Them Taters" to "The Young man who Wouldn't Hoe Corn" or maybe expand it to all crops and harvests,


"Law, De law, de law" (or "A Court Low")-Songs involving the legal and judiciary practice or practitioners and some folks who actually CAN complete a sentence.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Severn
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 02:43 AM

Hey, Nancy,


Some workshop suggestions (unused and recycled from last year):

"Hatred"----"One Sunday Morning", "Sam Hall", "I'm A Good Old Rebel", people, jobs, political institutions, nationalities or just the world in general. Vent with a passion!


"On The Lam"-Exiles, fugatives, outlaws, Foxes and Hares and just people running scared.

"Cities & Towns"-places you're proud of being from or merely glad you're far away from. People who belong there and sailors, travellers and bumpkins just passing through. Louisville, the hometown of Uncle Dave's heart to Jock Hawk In Glasgow-type first impressions.

Vile Fluids (Alchohol, poisons, medicines, potions, sewage, even Scottish waulking songs. Anything from "Cod Liver Oil" to the contents of Larry Marr's "Big Five Gallon Jar".

"Birds"-Hawks, chickens, ravens,cranes, goneys or linnets. From hungry vultures to bluebirds of happiness.

Disguises-Anything from "The Half Hitch" to "Claudy Banks" to "Queen Elenor's Confession" to "Sovay" to "The Handome Cabin Boy" Disguise is the limit!

"Diseases"-acne to pox to the common cold, from "slow condumption killing you by degrees' to "The Boogie Disease" (the doctor says you might get better, but you won't get well!, or even the Heebie Jeebies!


Just some ideas. See if any of this floats THIS year.....


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jul 09 - 11:33 PM

I was just going to suggest a workshop of Green and Orange songs. I'd definitely stop in for that!


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: David Ingerson
Date: 20 Jul 09 - 07:56 PM

I've heard so many good things about the Getaway that I'm finally deciding to splurge and attend this year (from Portland, Oregon).

My specialty is Irish singing, both Anglo-Irish and Sean-nos. I didn't check out past years' programs, but I didn't see anything about Irish songs in the suggestions for this year. I could lead a workshop in the history and types of Irish singing traditions or in sean-nos singing, or possibly some other part of the former (rebel songs, emigrant songs, etc), but with the caliber of attendees, there might well be someone else more qualified than I am.

Or maybe even just a song circle of Irish songs.

Cheers,

David


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 20 Jul 09 - 12:11 PM

Refresh


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 17 Jul 09 - 11:40 PM

Refresh! Come on, folks -- we need your IDEAS! There have been some good ones so far, but we need MORE!

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 16 Jul 09 - 08:09 PM

I don't think it's so much that they aren't being done, but that sometimes someone would LIKE to sing something, and there are plenty of people who might (perhaps with good reason) roll their eyes, and that can be a little intimidating when you're dying to do a song!

If there's a workshop dedicated to such, people will know to avoid if they so desire : )

Dani


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 16 Jul 09 - 10:16 AM

Yeah, Dani, that's what I meant. Songs About Food and Cooking. Thanks for the compliments!

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Jul 09 - 12:58 PM

"(STHBSTDSNSTABIFTAGSSLSTA?)"

It was done at an Open Sing years ago as "Oh No, Not Again!" by Tom McHenry -(Padre)The thing is, in the Getaway group, it is hard to find songs that someone is not doing....

And last I heard, Dwayne Thorpe was 'likely'....


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 15 Jul 09 - 12:57 PM

"Treasures in the Attic." That's nice. Almost as good as "STHBSTDSNSTABIFTAGSSLSTA."

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Ron Davies
Date: 15 Jul 09 - 08:12 AM

Guests:   I sure hope Dwayne Thorpe is coming.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 15 Jul 09 - 07:00 AM

Or 'Treasure in the Attic;, Dan. 'Cause they get shelved by the folks who are sick of hearing them, then young 'folks' come along and want to dust them off.

Sometimes they are afraid of the wrath of the elders who think they are hackneyed! My daughter is dying to bring one out that a rock band recently covered : )

Dani


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: ClaireBear
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 10:07 PM

"Gold Chestnuts," Dan.

C


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 08:52 PM

How about "Beggars, Tramps and Bums?" A nice recession topic, and one that reaches across different traditions nicely.

Another idea that occurred to me was something along the lines of "Good Times" - songs to balance out all the hard times and troubles folks are going through.

I can't think of a title for it, but I've sometimes wondered about a workshop on "Songs That Have Been Sung To Death So Nobody Sings Them Anymore But In Fact They Are Great Songs So Let's Sing Them Anyway." (STHBSTDSNSTABIFTAGSSLSTA?) Needs a better title, methinks.

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 08:01 PM

I was afraid I was going to miss a large part of the Getaway due to a conflict with one of my association's annual board meetings. However, due to budget limitations, they decided I don't need to travel to this one. I tried hard not to look *too* happy when they told me, but...WOO-HOO! Silver linings in recessionary clouds, eh? 8-)

So anyway, I'm willing to host or co-host something. Parodies obviously (though it looks like you've got a pile of volunteers already). Of course I can do Humorous songs too.

Picking up on Amos's suggestion earlier in the thread, every couple of years there has been a "Modern Songs in the Tradition" workshop. I ran it one year (and could do so, or co-run it again). I usually toss in a James Keelaghan or Stan Rogers.

-- Gary


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: ClaireBear
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 12:28 PM

Well, I've thought on't as promised, and there are two subjects I'd like to see covered some year or other:

1. Creepy songs (which could be ghost ballads, halloween material, Cthulhu anthems, whatever)

2. Regional vocal tricks (here I'm picturing sharing techniques for such diverse activities as Scandinavian kulning/cow calling; that vocal thing that Arab women do behind their hands to express appreciation for a good performance; hollering; the Basque Irintzi; maybe even just plain yodeling...).

As usual, I am not in a position to lead either but would certainly participate in both.

Cheers,
Claire


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 10:50 AM

Zen...IF you decide to try it, book flight into BWI (Baltimore-Washington International) as 1st preference. Others are possible, but mostly not as convenient.


(Time to start another thread for this sort of non-program discussion)


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Zen
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 08:12 AM

I'm seriously thinking about coming across to this this year (I live in Scotland) and perhaps afterwards travelling on to visit my sister who lives in Chicago. I've watched so many of these Getaways come and go over the years and have always been sorry not to be there.

I'm mainly an instrumentalist (old-timey, Scottish, Irish, blues), less a singer though I try, and would join in anything along those lines if I can make it.

Any local help getting to and from airports would always be interesting!

Zen


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 07:36 AM

'cause there are some of us who come to the Getaway mostly to hear you sing "Breakfast Blues", Roger. Or mostly anything else : )

This may be bringing coals to Newcastle, but what about a Pete Seeger session?

Dani


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Fortunato
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 10:06 PM

It seems to me we ought to have a "Remembering Johnny Collins Workshop". I would come and sing but I think Barry Finn or someone whose genre is closer to Johnny's might be better to lead it.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 09:15 PM

What Roger MEANT to say was that he'd like to lead the Songs About Food and Cooking workshop.

Dani


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Leadfingers
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 08:28 PM

Sadly I dont think I can get across this year , but if any one else does a Whistle Workshop , I hope some one can give me a FULL report !


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Charley Noble
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 08:21 PM

Judy and I will be traveling for much of September to the Pacific Northwest. I really don't know if I'll have the energy to blast off as soon as we're back home.

I really like Severn's idea about "Songs of the Metal Navy" or expanding it to include songs of the Steam era Merchant Marine.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 08:03 PM

Some good ideas here! Keep 'em coming!

Micca, glad to hear you'll be with us again! You too, Edmund -- we missed you last year! In fact, we'll be pleased to see everyone!

MMario, you really need to get your priorities straight -- or make sure your family has a pre-marked calendar blocking out certain times. Let 'em know NOW that you won't be available October 1-4, 2010! Sheesh!

Amos, there is certain to be at least one session of cowboy songs, as one of our special guests, Steve Cormier, is a former cowboy and oil rigger, and specializes in songs of that genre. Ed Norman, another of our special guests, also does a lot of cowboy songs.

As for the rest of the suggestions, we'll be considering them all, but won't have many firm decisions for some time yet. Keep those suggestions coming!

Oh, by the way, we just got word that West River expects the new dining hall to be ready for us! I'll believe that when I see it, but it does sound promising.

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 10:56 AM

I'd enjoy a workshop of genuine wrangler, roper, and cowhand songs.


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 10:26 AM

Just to let you know I plan to be there, again, this year. I have no ideas about topics, but I am always willing to help out.

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: MMario
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 08:32 AM

FUTZ!!!! I am committed to a wedding that weekend. My family dang well better stop planning stuff for getaway weekend!

yeesh!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: jacqui.c
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 08:09 AM

How about a workshop entitled 'Mans Inhumanity To Man'?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Susan of DT
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 09:16 PM

The Songs From the Shower workshops that I remember Jonathan leading were the playground songs, campsongs, girl scout songs, parodies, mentioned above, and NOT dowap.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 04:24 PM

Don't MAKE me come over there and GET you, Skarpi....

I second the playground rhymes! Maybe we could get Azizi to come to do this, finally?!

Also second the "songs from the shower". The doo-wop last year was a real treat. folk, schmolk: sometimes it's great just to let loose and sing what feels great to sing!

How about a "there but for the grace of god" workshop where people bring a song that was their first introduction to the world of 'folk' and/or which changed the path of their musical lives?

Dani


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 04:00 PM

I'll offer to cover $10 of Skarpi's costs. Anybody else want to finance his vocal contributions?


Bruce 8-{E


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 02:28 PM

Well, seeing as its Dani, amigo, just let me know and I'm willing to struggle mightily to fill your shoes...



A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: skarpi
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 01:32 PM

hallo all , I am not sure if I can make this year ,
I only have job until 13 th of September :>) unless some one offer me a job in IKEA US , no just a joke . I made a promise to Dani , and
now I may not be able to keep that promise :>((

I have to see about this , we´ll know in time .
this money crisis here in Iceland is realy bad , we are nearly Bankrupt
nation :>( so it is not easy here at the moment .
we are goin same way as Argentina .

s o more later .

All the best Skarpi Iceland ( criseland )


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Severn
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 01:29 PM

Here's my annual collection of hare brained suggestions, or at least Part One. We'll see if any of this might float......




How about "Sailors Named Jack"? That shouldn't be enough to narrow the sea songs to any less than two hours......

I'd still like to hear a workshop of songs of the metal navies, WWII and beyond with maybe Barry Finn and/or Dick Greenhaus at the helm.....


Could any younger people in attendance younger twenties, teens and below be rounded up to sing more current playground songs, rhymes and parodies than the ones us older fogeys grew up with? This could be done seperately or in conjunction and contrast with the memories of their elders, maybe showing what's still around (like "Mine eyes have seen the glory of the burning of the school) and what's changed with the times and culture.......


Songs with known sheet music origins that worked their way into and sometimes collected from tradition. That might be up, say, Dottie Hurley's alley, with or without tin pans......


Since the Getaway can be classified as a retreat of sorts, maybe a workshop involving songs mentioning "Strategic Withdrawal" from Culloden Moor to St. Clair's Defeat to the Trail Of Tears to wherever wounds have been licked and tails were dragged between legs. Hey, a lot of what we do's all about "moving forward while looking backwards at the same time", right? While trying to learn from past mistakes and history, of course.......


"Wood If We Could"-Songs involving wood from the logging process to carving, fashioning tools and building with it. This one could be further divided up into splinter groups......


Or maybe just tools and implements in general, real or imagined,
the process of inventing them or them merely exisiting as speculation or dream of something we'd like to see built, or to build with.........


"Esprit de Corpse"-Songs dealing with cadavers, their movement, rowdy wakes, burial rites and maybe some "Unquiet Grave" and "Lowlands" type visitations or visits thrown in and Rosin the Beau/Ye Mariner's All" mere death wishes, to boot......


Songs about the ascent to Heaven or the descent into Hell or even doing the Limbo Rock in Purgatory, reading back issues of
People Magazines in the waiting room while waiting for decisions to be made and numbers to be called, This could be one workshop or two. If two are scheduled against each other, it would be interesting to see who comes to each and who hedge their bets by showing up at both.......



....Just some random thoughts. Maybe I random into the ground,
but maybe some of these 40% Brain Flakes will be worth raisin to the level of reality. As always, there may be more of the same.....


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 09:23 AM

I have a gig on the 2nd so won't be there until Saturday the 3rd... I'd be willing to "facilitate" the blues workshop or do a mini-concert... I probably won't get there until noon...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Susan A-R
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 09:23 PM

I'd be willing to host some sort of instrumental jam, either slow jam, waltzes, or a genre jam, such as Irish or Quebecois or even a good old dance tune chestnuts circle. I realize that there are more singers than players. Another possibility might be (if we can find singing victims) a melody instrument back up workshop, to include things like, listening for chords and key, not treading on the singer's toes, simple rhythm tricks etc. I'm relatively new at this, but maybe some of us could team up.

Looking forward to being back after missing a year.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 08:18 PM

I really like that last idea - though it may need to be expanded to allow more folks to participate. Maybe "Songs of Local Waters" and allow folks to define what is local for them?

Incidentally, I am thrilled to see Pete the Spy on the list. A lot of folks are in for a real treat!

Warmly,
Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Peter T.
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 08:03 PM

I can't be there this year (boo), but I was sort of itching for a "Songs of the Chesapeake" session last time (you've probably done that before, or maybe I missed it.....?).

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: ClaireBear
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 07:55 PM

J'll be there, but my brain is in a persistent fog today and I can't think what to request. I'll think on't.

Claire


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