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fermented fruit drinks ?

My Consistent ID 28 Aug 09 - 11:48 PM
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Subject: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: My Consistent ID
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 11:48 PM

grapes = wine

apples = cider

pears = perry

oranges = ????

and what about all the other common fruits pressed for fresh breakfast juices
and medicinal constipation relief..

what are their pisshead equivalents to wine, cider and perry ?

My wife [and myself] needs to know !


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: My Consistent ID
Date: 28 Aug 09 - 11:49 PM

oh, and please put this in BS.


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: My Consistent ID
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 12:11 AM

thank you


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: Gurney
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 12:26 AM

Apples also = Calvados.
Grapes also = Brandy.

Let us not stop at brewing!


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 01:07 AM

If you want a brew that will make you sit up and take notice...

I started with a bottle of that English stuff that has a lot of herbs and flowers in it (a 'traditional' herbal (soft) drink whose name I cannot remember!) - it went off in the fridge!

I used that as the starter - and did a batch of mead (honey) - and left that in the fridge (about 5 deg C) for at least 3 months - it started up again when it returned to room temp!

The trick was a bottom fermenting rather than a top style yeast - a 'lager' rather than 'champagne' yeast... and lots of time at a low temperature...

You can add any fruit juices to it you wish btw, I discovered in later incantations...

Smooooooooooooooooooooooooooth..........


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: open mike
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 02:00 AM

decantations or incantations?


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: gnu
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 05:55 AM

Depends on how much you drink.


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 06:01 AM

Prison hooch is called "Pruno" for obvious reasons.

A remarkably similar "champagn" is made with lemons and cane sugar.

Ginger Beer - the British stuff - homemade can have a real kick.

Dandilion Wine - my recipe has oranges and lemons in it (aunt's)

Checking an index of my first fermentation book we also have:

Rhubard
Damsom
Flowers
Wheat and Raisin, Kibble Maise and Dates
Parsnip Vino
Vin Fin - (Beet Wine)

And finally Meadon Whisky (he writes Marigold - but I am sure he must been the "pot marigod - winter marigod" that is Calandula.

Collins Nut-shell Book by H. E. Bravery 1963

Ex-Pats have a wonderful brewing hobby and highly refined techniques for Muslem countries.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

At the universiy I was infamous for the high potency alcoholic root beer that brewed in a 15 gallon keg used as a desk stool.


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: catspaw49
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 08:44 AM

Ya' know Garg, I wouldn't knowingly drink anything you'd had your ass parked on.........(;<))

Spaw


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 10:17 AM

Tomatoes (it will froth all over)
Water (add sugar and turn water into wine, but there's danged little taste to it)


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 10:40 PM

I forgot about my teapot which has Chinese tea in it. When I checked it a couple of weeks later, there were interesting mold colonies floating on the tea. Should I have added sugar and let it ferment?


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: maire-aine
Date: 29 Aug 09 - 11:58 PM

I tried making parsnip wine once, from a hand-written recipe found in one of my grandmother's cookbooks. I don't think I did it right, because it was horrible. Won't try that again.

m


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 30 Aug 09 - 03:48 PM

The only think I can think of with oranges is orange wine or the old Quantro advert

'Wiz orarnges rippened in ze tropical sun...'

And the pedant in me cannot help but blow a fuse every time I see one of the adverts for the 'new pear cider'. Bloomin' ad-men. Mutter, mitter...

:D (eG)


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 30 Aug 09 - 06:32 PM

Oranges ... oooo ... remove ALL pith (the white stuff)!!! - apparently it can form strychnine when it ferments - will make you choke and gasp....


Been there, seen that - wasn't going to drink it after everybody ELSE (wasn't MY brew!) ...


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: Peace
Date: 30 Aug 09 - 09:41 PM

Cointreau is orange-based, isn't it?


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: EBarnacle
Date: 30 Aug 09 - 09:45 PM

When I was working in the prison system, the most common home brew was based on a slice of bread, water and spit. Anything which can be attacked by microorganisms can be turned into some form of booze or other.


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: Gurney
Date: 31 Aug 09 - 03:01 AM

M.C.I.D. specifically asked about fruits-to-booze. We do have Kiwifruit wine here.
I suppose anything which has starch or sugars in it can be fermented into something to get you drunk. Providing you are desperate enough.
I once made wine from a grafting-rootstock grape called Albany Surprise. It could be drunk, given the previously mentioned desperation. I still have a couple of bottles, 25 years later, but I gave most of it to a prospective alcoholic.


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: Tangledwood
Date: 31 Aug 09 - 05:06 AM

Oranges ... oooo ... remove ALL pith (the white stuff)!!! - apparently it can form strychnine when it ferments - will make you choke and gasp....


Been there, seen that - wasn't going to drink it after everybody ELSE (wasn't MY brew!) ...



OK, let's get it over with. Somebody's got to do it.

You did the right thing - you wouldn't want to get caught driving home pithed.


There seem to be so many fruits that either don't have alcoholic drinks. made from them, or so rarely that it isn't named. Why is that? Too much/too little sugar, Too much/too little acid, Too much/too little something else?


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: GUEST,Doc John
Date: 31 Aug 09 - 05:29 AM

Yes, there seems to be too little sugar in fruits and no natural yeasts to make fruit wines (the pedants will say wine only comes from grapes which is were we started) so you have to add it. Elderberry seems to be a common favourite, I use blackberries (plenty around here) but you can use nettles, potatoes, oak leaves, almost anything. It's cheap and very strong. And you don't have to worry about all that rubbish about pinot noir etc. If you distill the brew you may get a visit from those men mentioned in 'Darling Corey'. The Irish distill (illegally) potato wine to produce poteen which will really blow your head off. Liquers are not usually distilled friut wines but brandy bases with herbs, spices, etc added.
Doc John


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: Jack Campin
Date: 31 Aug 09 - 05:51 AM

My father tried making grapefruit wine once (he did a lot of winemaking and had been making apple and plum wine for years).

It was pretty good for cleaning sinks.


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Subject: RE: fermented fruit drinks ?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 31 Aug 09 - 05:37 PM

My son is rather fond of a fermented tea concoction called Kombucha. He buys it commercially, and he has also made it himself. I've never tried it.

I don't think the commercial variety has any appreciable amount of alcohol. I think they keep it under 0.5% so it won't be classified as an alcoholic beverage. Wikipedia says it can be up to 1.5% which is still a lot less than beer.


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