BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination

Subject: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: Leadfingers
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 11:43 AM

Reported to day - ASDA (UK Walmart Store) refuses to serve a customer wearing a Help for Heroes Wristband !Newspaper report

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: jacqui.c
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 12:33 PM

If that is correct then I would think that the cashier and his supervisor are going to be onto at least a reprimand from Asda for their behaviour, but hopefully more than that, as they have engendered some very bad publicity for the store.

If I had been the customer I would have insisted on talking to the shop manager, having taken note of the identity of both the cashier and the supervisor. these people are paid to serve the public and should not be making decisions about who can and can't be allowed to purchase goods in a store that does not belong to them. What would happen if this woman was taken to hospital and a nurse or doctor refused to treat her because she was wearing this wristband? Having strong views about things is fine, just leave them at the door when you go to work.

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 12:36 PM

Leadfingers - I think you are giving the wrong impression. Direct quote from the end of the article -

An Asda spokeswoman said: "We are big supporters of the Help for Heroes campaign and we sell the pin badges and wrist band in hundreds of our stores. That's why we were shocked and surprised to hear of an incident involving one of our colleagues at the Rochdale store. We are not aware of any incident of this nature taking place. If it were to be found true we would take it very seriously indeed. That's why we'd like to take this opportunity to invite the customer back into the store if she'd like to discuss the details with the store manager. We can then look to investigate the matter."

So, in a nutshell, it is an alledged refusal, it needs further investigation and it appears to be a case of the press grabing headlines by age old method of sensationalism. Please don't follow suit!

Cheers

DeG

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: manitas_at_work
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 12:36 PM

Perhaps the good people of Rochdale could all purchase the wristbands and shop at ASDA. We'll soon see the management's idea of cashier's choice then.

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: jacqui.c
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 12:38 PM

Nice one Manitas!

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: Rasener
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 01:30 PM

What a hoot that would be manitas

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: Leadfingers
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 01:55 PM

What 'Wrong Impression' Dave ? I have just brought a News Report to a wider audience , without comment .

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: Rasener
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 02:10 PM

You are quite correct Leadfingers.

Why do people jump to the conclusion, that you are trying to do anything other than identify something that happened. If you are not careful Terry, it will all be your fault. :-)

Cheers
Les

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: meself
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 02:14 PM

Dave's point, though, FWIW, is that there seems to be a question of whether the 'something' did actually happen.

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 02:53 PM

The key words in that initial post - "Reported today". Maybe it did happen as reported, but that cannot be assumed.

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: jacqui.c
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 02:57 PM

Problem is, would Asda management have got to hear about this if they hadn't been approached by the press. Much as I dislike some of the behaviour of the media in general they do tend to have more of an effect than maybe just one lady writing a letter, which might not produce such tangible results.

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: Rasener
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 03:48 PM

Exactly Jacqui

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 05:38 PM

The headline of the article gives competely the wrong impression. If you do not believe bringing the story to a wider audience was compounding that wrong impression then, fair enough, you have done nothing wrong. Maybe my next thread title will be "Mudcat member shags pigs". Provided I continue with 'allegedly' and 'unsubstansiated', will it be perfectly acceptable? :-)

Cheers

DeG

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: Rasener
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 05:49 PM

>>"Mudcat member shags pigs"<<

LOL really. Maybe they were just making bacon :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 05:55 PM

Maybe I should make it more realistic - 'El Gnomo screws around with Rambling Sailor" - I have done so once or twice but unless you hear the full story it is a very misleading headline:-)

DeG

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: Rasener
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 06:05 PM

Its very clear to me :-) nod nod wink wink say no more.

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: Leadfingers
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 08:23 PM

IOF there is any factual basis to the Rochdale Obesever story IT STINKS !!! If there is NO factual basis it STILL stinks , but for different reasons

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: Jack Campin
Date: 29 Oct 09 - 08:53 PM

If it is actually true that ASDA/Walmart actively supports this "Help for Heroes" campaign, it's perfectly understandable that some of their employees might get pissed off at being forced to be tools for militarist propaganda. It isn't a legitimate part of their job.

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: Leadfingers
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 07:55 AM

Jack C - How does an organisation that ofers support for wounded soldiers become a tool for militarist Propaganda ?

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: jacqui.c
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 10:45 AM

If it is actually true that ASDA/Walmart actively supports this "Help for Heroes" campaign, it's perfectly understandable that some of their employees might get pissed off at being forced to be tools for militarist propaganda. It isn't a legitimate part of their job.

Their job is to sell goods to the public on behalf of the organisation that pays them, whatever those goods might be, so long as they are legal. That's like saying that an anti smoker should not be forced to sell cigarettes!

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: Mr Happy
Date: 30 Oct 09 - 02:37 PM

"Jack C - How does an organisation that ofers support for wounded soldiers become a tool for militarist Propaganda ? "

Perhaps it may be seen in the same light as the red poppies versus white peace poppies?

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: Michael
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 07:47 AM

Anyway,in Rochdale surely everybody shops at the Co-op.

Mike

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 08:09 AM

hhmmm.. I thought maybe it was an opportunity for 2 bored off their tits Asda workers to grab some attention.

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: GUEST,Teribus
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 02:13 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: GUEST,Teribus
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 02:16 PM

Sorry about that hit the button a bit too early

Virginia Tam:

"hhmmm.. I thought maybe it was an opportunity for 2 bored off their tits Asda workers to grab some attention."

That should now be 2 bored off their tits ex-workers of ASDA to grab some attention.

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: Mr Happy
Date: 31 Oct 09 - 07:57 PM

,,,,,,,,,also, what's a 'hero'?

Subject: RE: BS: Help for Heroes (UK) discrimination
From: GUEST,Keith A o Hertford
Date: 07 Nov 09 - 05:15 AM

Well Mr Happy, most would define it as a person who takes great personal risk for the benefit of others.
I see what you are saying.
Just getting injured, however badly, does not make you a hero.
True, these people accepted a dangerous job for less than they would get as a traffic warden.
True they faced terrible dangers every day in theatre.
But maybe, when the rounds were ripping through their flesh, they felt terror and despair.
Or when the awful violence of the IED flung them off the ground, maybe they cried out for their mothers.
Pathetic wimps.
Who would want to help them?
Not you Mr. Happy. Right?
What is the bravest thing you have ever done Mr Happy?

BOO!
Sorry Mr Happy
Have I given you an unheroic cleaning up job to do?
Wear your poppy with pride mate.