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Courtesy

The Sandman 06 Nov 09 - 02:04 PM
GUEST,jts 06 Nov 09 - 02:11 PM
meself 06 Nov 09 - 03:31 PM
The Sandman 06 Nov 09 - 03:34 PM
meself 06 Nov 09 - 03:35 PM
McGrath of Harlow 06 Nov 09 - 03:48 PM
Joe Offer 06 Nov 09 - 04:10 PM
open mike 06 Nov 09 - 04:39 PM
The Sandman 06 Nov 09 - 08:49 PM
Joe Offer 06 Nov 09 - 10:11 PM
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Subject: Courtesy
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 02:04 PM

I received a shock today.
somebody has put up audio files,of a gig,or a session I did in 0ct 2005,fortunately the tunes are reasonable,but firstly I didnt realise it was being recorded at the time,and secondly I think I should have had the opportunity to listen to the audio files first.
I am at the point of despair, firstly with the lack of manners in 2009,and secondly with the lack of protection for musicians.
anyway, google PicaPica the mystery of what Dick Miles sounds like.
now with you tube there is some protection,you can ask for clips to be removed,can you do this with audio files?
these audio files are actually ok,its just that I wasnt asked.


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Subject: RE: Courtesy
From: GUEST,jts
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 02:11 PM

It is a violation of your copyright. You are entitled to that protection. I did the Google search. It seems that the poster is easy enough to contact. I think that it is there that you should voice your concerns.


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Subject: RE: Courtesy
From: meself
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 03:31 PM

I would start with the assumption that the perpetrator meant well; she is quite taken with your music and wants the world to know about it. She thought it would be a delightful surprise for you to find out that someone had gone to the trouble of recording you and putting your music on the web.

You can't expect non-musicians to understand these things, so - be gentle!


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Subject: RE: Courtesy
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 03:34 PM

actually the person is playing the flute on the recording,so they are a musician,but they live in Australia.


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Subject: RE: Courtesy
From: meself
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 03:35 PM

Oh, Australian - that explains it!


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Subject: RE: Courtesy
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 03:48 PM

I would think meself has it about right. The clips sound pretty good - this is clearly meant as an expression of admiration.

It's not as if you'd been playing badly and might be embarassed by them being out up there formothers to hear. And it's not as if this was a bootleg of a record you were putting out.

And if the person putting them up was playing in the session - well, if I wanted to stick a clip up of a session I'd played in, I don't think I'd feel I needed to ask the permission of anyone else.


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Subject: RE: Courtesy
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 04:10 PM

If the person were selling the recording, I'd want them to ask my permission and to give me a share of the proceeds if anything came of it.
But since this wasn't a solo performance and there's no profit involved, I see no need for permission. You might want to drop a note, say hello, and express thanks for giving you a bit of publicity. THAT would be courtesy - to acknowledge that the other person meant you no harm, and to be gracious about it.

Miss Manners would say that courtesy is something that you show to other people, not something you expect to receive.

-Joe, a disciple of Miss Manners School of Excruciatingly Correct Behaviour-


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Subject: RE: Courtesy
From: open mike
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 04:39 PM

funny--the other musical instruments were described as "assortment of tooters, scrapers, bashers and pluckers" and you and your concertina got the best description.


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Subject: RE: Courtesy
From: The Sandman
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 08:49 PM

apologies for being defensive,but I have had a bashing on the internet from the irish purist brigade,saying that I was playing irish music all wrong,at approximately the same time, the clips appeared.
but yes, maybe he was trying to help me,and I got paranoid.


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Subject: RE: Courtesy
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 10:11 PM

Thanks, Dick. That feels better.
-Joe-
    I think it's time to close this thread.
    -Joe-


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