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Sa'ami culture

GUEST,mg 14 Nov 09 - 04:04 PM
Paul Burke 14 Nov 09 - 04:30 PM
WalkaboutsVerse 14 Nov 09 - 04:43 PM
Deckman 14 Nov 09 - 07:31 PM
Deckman 14 Nov 09 - 07:35 PM
katlaughing 14 Nov 09 - 08:10 PM
open mike 14 Nov 09 - 11:16 PM
GUEST,999 14 Nov 09 - 11:56 PM
Reinhard 15 Nov 09 - 03:54 AM
Ross Campbell 15 Nov 09 - 11:25 PM
Ross Campbell 15 Nov 09 - 11:32 PM
Ross Campbell 15 Nov 09 - 11:39 PM
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Subject: BS: Sa'ami culture
From: GUEST,mg
Date: 14 Nov 09 - 04:04 PM

http://saamiblog.blogspot.com/

http://saamiblog.blogspot.com/


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Subject: RE: BS: Sa'ami culture
From: Paul Burke
Date: 14 Nov 09 - 04:30 PM

Don't delete this one Joe. The Saami- known to us as Lapps, though that's an insult- do a great line in songs called joik (pron. yoik)- a song which is personal to the owner, very much an attribute, and which you shouldn't sing without their permisiion. Highly compressed local references and a lot of mouth music, and I think the tunes would often work very well on Highland bagpipes.


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Subject: RE: BS: Sa'ami culture
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 14 Nov 09 - 04:43 PM

I only now of it through TV documentaries I've seen here in England (herding reindeer, the unaccompanied songs/yoik), although I have been quite far north in Sweden...

Poem 14 of 230: NIGHT OR DAY?!

In the far north of Sweden,
    A "Land of the Midnight Sun,"
A strange thing chanced upon me -
    And I'll tell you, just for fun.

Got off a train late-morning
    (Had to catch same one next day)
And trudged far to the Youth Hostel -
    Paying for a one-night stay.

I spent the afternoon sightseeing,
    Then, after a latish dinner,
Returned to my own small bedroom -
    The comfy bed proving a winner.

For I soon dozed into dreamy sleep -
    Waking what was just two hours hence;
But my watch was an analogue,
    And night or day I couldn't sense!

I quickly packed all my things
    (My train an hour or thirteen on)
And hurried out the bedroom -
    The bright sky a sneaky con.

I wandered down the track a bit
    (The Hostel office empty),
Before a smiling helpful local
    Did kindly enlighten me.

From http://blogs.myspace.com/walkaboutsverse (e-book)
Or http://walkaboutsverse.sitegoz.com (e-scroll)
(C) David Franks 2003


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Subject: RE: BS: Sa'ami culture
From: Deckman
Date: 14 Nov 09 - 07:31 PM

Mary ... fascinating. I spent this afternoon with Finnish speakers, trying to get some phrases correct. Thanks for posting this (kittos) bob


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Subject: RE: BS: Sa'ami culture
From: Deckman
Date: 14 Nov 09 - 07:35 PM

THIS BELONGS BACK UP ON THE MUSIC PAGE!!!! bob


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Subject: RE: Sa'ami culture
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Nov 09 - 08:10 PM

I agree and just moved it, Roope. This will be a fav. of mine to check as I have really been interested for a number of years.

In THIS THREAD there are some links to fantastic videos about the Sa'ami, including a six-part series on youtube about joiks.


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Subject: RE: Sa'ami culture
From: open mike
Date: 14 Nov 09 - 11:16 PM

I never saw it written with apostrophes
here is a Sami (or Saami) magazine, Baiki
http://www.baiki.org/content/links.htm

and two musicians from that culture are
Mari Boine--http://www.mariboine.no/
and Vimme--http://www.rockadillo.fi/wimme/
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=112041165267

here is another thread on Sami culture
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=110280&messages=27

it is a misnomer to say Saami is just in norway,
as they are from a nomadic background, and their
territory stretches across Norway Sweden and Finland.


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Subject: RE: Sa'ami culture
From: GUEST,999
Date: 14 Nov 09 - 11:56 PM

The Sami/Saami are also established in Russia (Kola Peninsula).


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Subject: RE: Sa'ami culture
From: Reinhard
Date: 15 Nov 09 - 03:54 AM

open mike, I think the apostrophe is just a poor man's rendition of S쳌«¡mi.

Volumes 21-23 of the CD series Musica Sveciae / Folk Music in Sweden is a 3 CD set Joik: En presentation av samisk folkmusic / Yoik: A Presentation of Saami Folk Music (Caprice CAP 21544, 1997) with field recordings from 1953 and 1954. It is accompanied by a 300+ pages book with the same title by Matts Arnberg, Israel Ruong and H쳌«©kan Unsgaard. The book seems to have been previously published in 1969; I don't know if there were LPs anvailable then too.


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Subject: RE: Sa'ami culture
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 15 Nov 09 - 11:25 PM

Ray Mears' Bushcraft Survival series on UK TV featured one programme where he interviewed singer Yana, where she sang short samples of the "joik" style and explained her interpretation. DVD available here .

Ross


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Subject: RE: Sa'ami culture
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 15 Nov 09 - 11:32 PM

Yana Mangi's MySpace page

Ross


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Subject: RE: Sa'ami culture
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 15 Nov 09 - 11:39 PM

The Ray Mears/Yana Mangi interview is on a YouTube clip. Scroll down on the Myspace page.

I saw Mari Boine when WOMAD ran festivals in Morecambe a few years back. Powerful stuff.

Ross


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