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Jack Campin 20 Nov 09 - 12:16 PM
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Joe Offer 20 Nov 09 - 02:28 PM
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Subject: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Jack Campin
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 12:16 PM

What's the rationale for what MudcatCafe publicizes on Twitter?

Is it anything some user has decided to publicize by a "Share This Thread" click, or is it done by the admins?

Problem with the first option is it's open to abuse - spammer posts in a thread and immediately tweets that they've done it, with the result that both Mudcat and Twitter get synergistically polluted with crap. Whereas I can see good reasons for the admins to use Twitter for specific purposes like announcing outages, new features, or activity on a very small number of important moderated threads.

At present the account is generating a tweet every 40 minutes, which is too many.

(I am JackCampin on Twitter and I generate about two tweets a week, few of which are intended to be interesting to anyone outside the Central Belt of Scotland).


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Amos
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 01:23 PM

First I've heard of a 'Cat feed on twitter, but it's inevitable, I suppose.

A


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 01:27 PM

It's one of the options in the stupid 'Share This Thread' link.
I always thought Mudcat was the antithesis of all those stupid social web sites. Seems that we've decided to join them, whether we want to or not!


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Jack Campin
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 01:44 PM

This particular use isn't stupid if it's done right. It's quite common for Internet services to have independent ways of communicating urgent information to their users, and Twitter is one of the least intrusive ways of telling folks "sorry we're going to be down for the weekend, back on Monday".

But I certainly don't want to be reminded of any thread any reader of the forum might want to tell the world about.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 01:44 PM

I only rarely use my twitter to announce the few mini-gigs I've done, but I also just received the link Jack mentions.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 01:48 PM

Not really trying to be a stick in the mud here, but all of this is best taken up with Max. Try e-mailing him or a PM...The add-ons on the pages here are his and as he owns the joint, I'd ask him and not here but thru e-mail.


Spaw


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 01:55 PM

Still no sign of that "Share this thread" being removed from the BS section as Max indicated should be happeniong. Leaps up in widescreen Technicolour any time I fail to make a mouse detour round it on my way to write a post.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 01:57 PM

I can't tell how many people agree or disagree with my point of view, if I limit my objections to a PM.
Nor can Max !


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 02:01 PM

"Twittering" on everything reminds me of the banjo player who was asked: "Why do you play so fast?" and replied "Because I can."

I refer you to one of a series in "Doonesbury" which parodies Twitter on several levels.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 02:03 PM

LOL.....that's a good point JM. But I've seen Max actively solicit and use all kinds of suggestions and also do some things just to see what happens. The thread is fine but I think a note to him will help alert him to this thread as well. He doesn't always read the place.......LOL........Can't blame him much for that either.

Have some mercy on him though and send him a note. Poor fucker not only went to Penn State but he works there now too!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 02:28 PM

Can't say I like it, either....but then I don't think much of "social networking."
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 03:08 PM

Aw fuck, Joe agrees with me!
Just goes to show, ya never can tell

:) ☺


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 04:19 PM

but then I don't think much of "social networking.
-Joe- "

Yeah, Me too. Shame the boss doesn't agree with you.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 05:31 PM

I think "social networking" is just fine, and in many ways what Mudcat is about, but I draw the line (for now) at being a Twit.

As for the Twitter link on "share this thread," I really don't have an opinion one way or another, though I do think Jack raises a good point about spammers. I wouldn't have thought of that.

Dan


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Acme
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 05:46 PM

I haven't figured out why the Mudcat items that are forwarded to Twitter ARE being forwarded. Just to have a presence, I suppose, and time will tell us if this is a good thing. I guess I feel a little protective about this site, and wonder about what others in the large Twitter realm think of it if they encounter our site, in a total non sequitur manner?

SRS


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: wysiwyg
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 05:50 PM

Obiviously we need to start our own version, called BITTER, so that instead of "Tweet me" we can have the more usual Mudcat line: "Bite me."

~S~


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 05:59 PM

Can 'twit' be both noun & verb? If so, conjugation might be interesting...

...just wondering....


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 06:02 PM

Could there be a monitoring by enlisted Mudcat members for spam, that looks to be generated by twitter twits to be fed back to moderators? If there is documentation that problems are arising from random spam, guest flaming, etc, then there is argument to remove the share this thread function.

Until we can evidence there is a problem, then is there a problem?


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 06:18 PM

Oh, there are several regular monitors who are always on the alert for spam. What we don't want is to make their jobs overwhelming.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Max
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 06:20 PM

Until we can evidence there is a problem, then is there a problem?


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Max
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 06:26 PM

While we're at it, we should stop teaching our children these songs. They're just going to muck them all up and remember them wrong, and tell their friends about them, and maybe even teach their children about them, and then it's all ruined and we won't be able to enjoy them anymore.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Max
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 06:30 PM

See? Look what horrible things these horrible people are saying on Twitter:

MargretStewart
@MudcatCafe - a Gaelic lament (I have dozens) or are you looking for one in English?

gbossmusic
RT @MudcatCafe: http://mudcat.org: Attracting old folks to young folk music (43 msgs) http://bit.ly/1K0h5O #folk

artbyregant
@MudcatCafe yeah for folk music preservation .......thanks for listing me ! have a great day

jrandguests
@mudcatcafe gonna do my first scratch recording of Nic Jones' Canadee-I-O in my DADGAE (D modal sus4 sus2) arrangement

ramage
@MudcatCafe there's more to concertina handles than you might think http://bit.ly/453IR1

jrandguests
@mudcatcafe has been a great resource for my music, now discover they are a new follower....awesome!


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 06:32 PM

Now, now, Max... *grin* Cynical metaphors ain't your style.... and that one kinda misses the point. Twitter may not end up being a problem, but toothpaste is hard to get back into the tube. (see...metaphors are easy, whether they are good ones or not.)

We shall, as they say, see.....


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 06:43 PM

How many people really want to put toothpaste back in a tube, anyway?


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Jack Campin
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 06:52 PM

The tweet that prompted this query was one about "UBM speakers" (which seemed to be an ad for a Leslie clone, when I followed the link). That didn't seem to emerge in any natural way from a normal discussion here, so I presume it was spammed by the guy promoting them. Any spammer could use Mudcat as a conduit for twit-spam the same way.

For the others on Max's list - I can see those threads already. Why would I want to be notified any time somebody posts to them? Who would want to follow such a huge and unselective stream of announcements?

Until the frequency drops to no more than two tweets a day, I'm not following MudcatCafe. The sort of user I like to follow is Anne Feeney, who does about one tweet a week, but when she does one it matters.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 06:58 PM

"How many people really want to put toothpaste back in a tube, anyway?"

Those who squeeze too hard and are very poor? ☺.. (I....ummm.. have actually done it, just to see if it was possible.)


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Max
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 07:02 PM

There is something called "reputation management" that this world of Web 2.0 has made necessary today.

Anyone can create a twitter account or facebook or myspace or any of the other 1000 social networking sites, and post mudcat threads to them. They can also register and reserve the name Mudcat Cafe or mudcat or any variation thereof, if I don't do it first. There is nothing I can do to stop it other than doing it first.

I cannot afford to file intellectual property lawsuits nor expect myself or volunteers to keep an eye on the social networks.

Anyone can already find us, you know. We have almost no control of Google searches. People come and go a whole lot. In fact, 75% of our traffic never joins and never posts, and don't necessarily like folk music. I know it might be surprising to many of you, but you don't know as much about this place as you think you do or as I do.

I am not trying to be a social network. I am not using them to get more hits or to publicize anything other than folk music information to a new audience. Social networks are not as bad as you think. Social networking will introduce us to more people like us and we'll make new friends. Social networking, in my skilled hands, will sharpen the broad spray that Google search results sometimes yield.

Jack, I posted that UBM link because I thought it was interesting, and it is. To answer your question, 440 people want follow us, and it's only been going on a week. I see that 16 people follow you. It is not an unselective stream. I don't expect or desire you to follow MudcatCafe, you are already here and you clearly already know everything.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Amos
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 07:20 PM

Mudcat is already a social network. Look at the array of topics and the array of participants and how they intersect or don't. Twitter is the same process writ impossibly large, and Max argues persuasively that by owning the Twitter feed he at least preempts some kinds of abuse.

A


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Joe Offer
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 07:30 PM

Well, I gotta say, I just don't understand this social networking, and that's why I don't like it. There was a thread on Second Life yesterday, and it only got posts from me and the thread originator. I tried to figure out how to navigate to the folk music venue in Second Life, but couldn't.

I welcome anything that brings people in to use Mudcat for folk music information. It appears that Twitter may be doing that. So, although I don't like it so far, I'll keep my mind open.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: catspaw49
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 07:37 PM

Maybe I can get you one of Anne Frank's drums Joe......make you feel better, ya' know............

Spaw


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Joe_F
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 08:07 PM

I would rather be woofed than tweeted *or* twitted.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 08:12 PM

Sounds prfetty uncomfortable either way, Joe.

"enlisted Mudcat members" - that'd be the same as "other ranks" I gather from a recent thread which drifted into discussing army terminology in our various countries.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Jack Campin
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 08:19 PM

This piece suggests that Twitter is significantly different from other "social networks":
Harvard Business School study

If they're right there do seem to be more Twitter users who see things Max's way than mine. But I would still like to see some idea of what strategy Max has in mind. There are presumably some patterns of usage he does think would be productive, and others he wouldn't want. I can't guess which is which.

I look at many more Twitter sites than I ever follow. When I don't need an update all that often, it makes more sense to treat the service like an ordinary website. My page is designed to be used that way - there are never going to be many tweets on it, you just look at the whole thing when you need the info. Presumably that isn't the sort of usage pattern Max has in mind. What is a follower or reader of the Mudcat Twitter page supposed to be looking for, though? - with people who arrive at the forum from Google that's knowable, with people arriving at a Twitter page there's no query in a Referer string to tell you.

For sure, getting in first with the name was important, no matter what it's used for just now. I guess he'll have registered a lot of similar ones as well.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Jeri
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 08:32 PM

I'm not on Twitter. I've intended to join for some time, but I'm afraid my ass will take root in my chair and they will wade through hundreds of empty snack food bags to pry my cold dead hand off my mouse.

Bill, you're a philosophy geek, but that is one crappy analogy... or a simile or whatever it's a crappy one of.

There's a reason for toothpaste you aren't using to stay in the tube. You have to store your toothpaste someplace where you won't sit in it, and it IS possible to waste it. Sharing Mudcat threads is more like letting the oxygen out of the tank or letting the book out of the library. The only people who might think that's bad are those who want to horde those things. Maybe not so much with oxygen, but you know what I mean. It's not wasting anything, as nothing gets used up.

I don't think any of this sharing will invite more trolls in. I think it's far more likely it will let interested people know there's something being talked about they might enjoy. I don't think Google searches are always good for Mudcat, but I don't know.
We get some obnoxious people who come here because of Google, but we get some positive contributors. I have no clue how many people just search and find lyrics or information, because if they don't post, nobody knows they've been here.

Mudcat is going to keep picking up people no matter what. Might as well put out some bread crumbs for people who like folk music to follow.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: GUEST,hg
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 08:40 PM

Well, Joe, Mudcat has been a social networking site from its inception so what's not to understand?

I like Facebook but Twitter doesn't interest me and I don't use it.

Facebook has allowed me to find out about more music such as Joe Hickerson's concert Sunday night in St. Augustine at the Lighthouse Museum which Chris Kastle now runs. Hope I make it. Facebook does tend to be about my friends advertising their gigs and that gets tedious but I like hearing what everyone else is doing. Plus I get to keep up with what Max is into and he is a cutting edge guy so that's interesting, too.
harpy


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Max
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 08:42 PM

Jack, notice that all the links on the mudcat Twitter account are bit.ly links. This tracks the traffic from twitter to mudcat very specifically. For instance, your thread on sessions was clicked 6 times, the Peggy Seeger thread was clicked on 27 times, etc.

The goal, Jack, is the accessibility of our information and the collection of more. Our most active threads (no BS) are tweeted to alert the people that might not be checking us everyday as to what is being discussed. As you see by my previous post, we have an offer of more information on Gaelic laments. Good stuff.

Google and Bing are now modifying their search results to include social networking activity as a factor of timely relevance. They're referring to it as "real-time" search. Their assumption, admittedly a myopic response to buzz, is that if something is being "shared" or tweeted that it is more relevant than something that is not.

They are also using social networking activity as an agent of folksonomy, which is a system of classification. Meaning, that with a carefully controlled social networking strategy, they will learn more and more everyday that we are a folk site, and not a BS site, and our search results will be more focussed, thereby decreasing the very activity that you all seem so afraid of.

Fin.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Artful Codger
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 09:50 PM

I would only consider following the Mudcat Twitter feed if it were for important, moderator messages only. For those who enjoy the barrage of blather that is Twitting, knock yourselves out, and nice of Max to indulge you.

However, the menu that pops up whenever one passes over the "Share This Thread" link is very annoying, particularly since it doesn't know when to pop down (!) and I never care to avail myself of its features. I share by posting; old-school is how I roll. And I hope never to be "shared with" (pointlessly notified) by those most likely to use these features: the clueless and self-important whose general range of critical commentary is limited to "cool", "awesome", "sucks" and "blows". That's not the "social" element I want to "share" with when I "network".


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 10:03 PM

Yes, please move the Share command away to the side on its own, so we don't keep getting derailed when we're aiming for other links - I share McGrath's and Codger's feelings. Surely just changing its screen position won't cause problems - ??


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 10:05 PM

"Our most active threads (no BS) are tweeted to alert the people that might not be checking us everyday as to what is being discussed."

"...are tweeted.." That is an interesting bit of grammar/phrasing.
Max ..are we privy to who is doing the 'tweeting'? Are you? Is it just a few members? Is is some of those 75% you say who are NOT members? Not having used Twitter, I am not sure just how it works.
   I have no notion that my participation OR opinion will affect how this goes in any way, but this latest bit of 'stuff' that has appeared is about the 1st time in 13 years that I have had any concern about stuff that has been added.... and a few other long-term members also are not sure.
You say at one point, Max, to just 'trust' your ability to make sensible decisions and know what will work and to do what's best for Mudcat...etc. In one sense, we have little choice, but we ARE always concerned and always appreciate explanations. In the same way, you should trust us to be aware and knowledgeable about some aspects of this strange new medium that has transformed our lives. We are always concerned that the benefits of changes should outweigh the hazards and awkwardnesses...and Mudcat being what it is... *grin*... we will always offer our opinions.
Cain't hurt...might help.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 10:08 PM

oh! And I meant to say something about the 2 posts above mine!

"However, the menu that pops up whenever one passes over the "Share This Thread" link is very annoying, particularly since it doesn't know when to pop down (!)"

YES! That has, on several occasions, made it hard for me to see what I'm typing! Is there any way to control the mouse-over behavior?


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Max
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 10:23 PM

Gosh Bill, I must have written 10,000 words about all this, what more can I possibly explain?

I am the only one doing the tweeting (and that is the proper terminology). And as for your concerns Bill, perhaps you are just getting more curmudgeonly as each year goes by.

We fear what we do not understand.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 10:35 PM

Perhaps it come with age, Max... like wisdom. . You are still under 40, right?

"10,000 words" only 9,327,Max... trust me.

(and *I* am still explaining stuff for Little Hawk & Amos... it takes awhile for some.)

Seriously... I will follow along and see how it goes. (maybe I just cringe at the words 'tweet' and 'twitter')

g'night


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Max
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 11:20 PM

OK, made some fixes. Not only did I figure out how to remove the share button from the BS threads, but I also figured out how to not let the search engines read or index the BS threads. And I moved it and made it smaller so it shouldn't annoy you anymore.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: katlaughing
Date: 21 Nov 09 - 12:37 AM

Kewl, awesome, does not suck!**bg**

Ah, Bill, just when I was going to say remember when Max was "kid?" Well, he ain't a kid anymore! But then you had to remind him he's still under 40.

I like the smaller icon and the reposition of things, Max. AND, that relaly is neat that you've made it so the BS threads won't be searched or indexed by the search engines. Will Mudcat's own search function still work on the BS threads, too?

Thanks!


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Nov 09 - 12:39 AM

thanks for moving the button, Max, now when I jump in to reply to something I won't end up on a twitter or facebook page - neither very useful to me cos I don't have a mobile (cell) phone or Facebook account!

one of my mates had a motto "take what you need & leave the rest" -there's a lot of new techo stuff I don't need, but I can't live with my Mudcat community.

sandra


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Artful Codger
Date: 21 Nov 09 - 02:34 AM

Thank you thank you thank you, Max! I'd be happier if the menu were brought up only when you click on the button (i.e., when you actually want it) but at least the new size and location minimizes the annoyance.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: My guru always said
Date: 21 Nov 09 - 05:02 AM

Thanks for making thoses changes Max!

I admit to being less 'techie' than most of the Posters here and I rely on you and other Catters to keep me safe and on-topic wherever possible. Wish I had the time for social networking, but I already know loads of people I haven't hugged yet *grin*


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 21 Nov 09 - 05:26 AM

I can see those threads already. Why would I want to be notified any time somebody posts to them? Who would want to follow such a huge and unselective stream of announcements?

I agree, there is a lot of dross that ends up in your stream as people and organisations tweet every hangnail. But it is simple to stop following anyone, MudcatCafe included and just do a search as and when you want to check in.


I wasn't particularly annoyed by the position of the share button, but it is nice that it is moved. It is especially good that Max and Mods are listening to concerns.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 21 Nov 09 - 05:33 AM

Yes, much appreciated - thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 21 Nov 09 - 06:17 AM

I think we Luddites get a bad press actually ;)


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 21 Nov 09 - 06:47 AM

As I said above, I don't bother much with twitter, but, at the same time, I'm okay with these links-for-free that will give others a chance to check mudcat. And one of the good things about social networking sites, I think, is that they've levelled the playing field a bit, at least - even though some are themselves big businesses, of course.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Nov 09 - 12:48 PM

Wow... that IS a change. It took me a minute to find the 'share' button, so I think it will be fine for those who want it....and it even UN pops after a second.

Good work, Max.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Amos
Date: 21 Nov 09 - 03:01 PM

Bill:

Sigh. It would help if you would notice that you have been being explained TO just as long as you have been explaining.



A


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Max
Date: 22 Nov 09 - 09:59 AM

Our flaws exposed. Got a message on Twitter this morning saying:

EnglishFolkFan: With the name I use & the vitriol on that thread I'm never gonna get away with posting on your website (fan not musician) am I?

C'mon folks, we have guests coming, be on your best.

Here we debate and worry of the behavior of folks from Twitter, and it is us that worries them. Love it.

Lizzie... chill, everyone else... quit poking Lizzie.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Artful Codger
Date: 23 Nov 09 - 10:40 PM

Yes, we have reservations about the folks from Twitterland--last thing we need are "tweet"-like postings which one has to decipher because of all the cutesy abbreviations. Folks accustomed to comment at Twitter/texting length seldom have much of relevancee to contribute--and seldom bother to check if their nuggets of wisdom have already been posted. Lizzie's post is an example of what we don't need: "Gawd, isn't this artist so kewl and underappreciated (because I didn't happen to know of her)? Stroke my ego by agreeing with me!"

Of course, there have been other--even informed--people who were "driven off" by unkindly responses, but that happens in every community. While we should remain respectful to newbies, and tolerant of their gaffes, I hope Mudcat doesn't become another cult-of-celebrity worship site through these attempts to draw in the "social network" crowd. Folks with a real interest in these types of music will find us--Mudcat threads are just a net search away. We don't have to get glitzy to attract new blood.

I'm at once a techie and a techo-Luddite--"progress" can lead backward, and many modern "social networking" trends have actually led to people becoming ruder and less connected in meaningful, satisfying ways. If you interrupt the person you're with to answer a call or text on your cell phone, Ms. Manners should bean you with an iPod and confiscate your rollover minutes.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 02:49 AM

Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Bill D - PM
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 10:05 PM

"Our most active threads (no BS) are tweeted to alert the people that might not be checking us everyday as to what is being discussed."

"...are tweeted.." That is an interesting bit of grammar/phrasing.


what, I wonder, is the correct conjugation of the verb "to tweet".

My gut instinct is that it goes, I tweet, I have twit, I twat.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 04:20 AM

LOL......Tell ya' Murrray, why don't you take out your weni, widi,winky, Willie and go conjugate yourself...........

Spaw....still laughing


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 10:55 AM

You'll note... Bill D asked almost the same question earlier in the thread: the answer was kinda what I expected...*grin*

"From: Bill D - PM
Date: 20 Nov 09 - 05:59 PM

Can 'twit' be both noun & verb? If so, conjugation might be interesting...

...just wondering....


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: katlaughing
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 10:58 AM

LMAO, Murray!


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: catspaw49
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 11:06 AM

As I generally read all of your posts Bill, I'm sorry I missed that one but I see it now. Accept my most sincere apologies and feel free to conjugate the livin' hell out of yourself!

As a special apology, may I offer you one of the Special Edition Anne Frank Drums?

Spaw (;<))


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Amos
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 11:12 AM

I tweet, thou tweetest, he tweets, we tweet, you tweet, they tweet.

I tweeted, thou didst tweet/tweeted, he tweeted, we tweeted, you tweeted, they tweeted.

I shall have tweeted, etc.

It ain't that hard!!!


A


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: wysiwyg
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 11:21 AM

Thanks, Max.

BTW, do ya realize that now yer speaking Twit language? :~) For those of us not interested in going the soc-net* route, when you speak Twit your posts are incomprehensible. And I don't "fear" soc-net*, I just find it..... yucky and time-consuming of time I lack (and would not allocate there if I did have it).

*(Pron. suck-net)


Usable tags, now, those I could use around here. Anybuddy else? We got 'em yet?

~Susan


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 11:21 AM

Stephen Colbert speaks [wrongly] Well it certainly doesn't mean the same thing here


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 12:40 PM

Spaw... I had a drum once, people told me: "Take yer drum and beat it."

I learned a lot about verbs from that.

"...conjugate the livin' hell out of yourself!"

Is what why they refer to 'conjugal visits' in prison?


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: The Sandman
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 12:51 PM

Whats Twitter?is it a bird food? like Trill, or swoop,I have never heard of it before.
as long as it hasnt got marijuana seeds in it, you lot sound high as kites.,is that what your on.
a twitter a day keeps the black dog away


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 02:18 PM

*beating a hasty re-tweet*


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: My guru always said
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 02:48 PM

Oh, Bill *sigh*


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Bill D
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 02:59 PM


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Oct 10 - 08:13 PM

So, any Mudcatters tweeting more these days? And, if you want to add friends via searching your email addys, does it let you pick and choose or does it just add them in in one fell swoop? I sure don't want to do that to my friends.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: DebC
Date: 06 Oct 10 - 09:23 PM

I am..you can find me


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: DebC
Date: 06 Oct 10 - 09:24 PM

...pressed the wrong button.

Debra Cowan on Twitter

Debra


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Oct 10 - 10:27 PM

Thanks, Deb, I just clicked to "follow" you and I now see how a background really dresses the place up. Thanks, again!


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Joe_F
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 06:12 PM

I lost interest in Twitter as soon as I discovered it was *not* for twitting people.


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Subject: RE: mudcat.org on Twitter
From: Acme
Date: 07 Oct 10 - 06:31 PM

You don't search for others using email, that's a facebook thing. I've been on Twitter for quite a while.

SRS


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