moving to Norwich, UK

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Old Roger
Date: 30 Nov 09 - 10:42 AM

Arnie - the street was probably St Benedicts. The Arts Centre is on that street and also a cuppla churches given over to art exhibitions. They have lots of churches given over to things in Norwich.

I had a word with my seven year old grandson. It appears there may be more dragons about in Norfolk than I thought. I have discovered he is some kind of consultant dragonologist which surprised me no end. There's hope for the lad yet..I think I'll try him with the banjo and see what happens

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Rasener
Date: 30 Nov 09 - 02:35 PM

>>I think I'll try him with the banjo and see what happens<<

That is really cruel Old Roger :-)

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Smedley
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 03:26 AM

Yes, St Benedicts does have more than one instrument shop.

Re the local accent, I recall wondering why a friend from that area told me, whenever he'd been out for a run, that he was 'jargon'.

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: GUEST,Mr Red
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 07:34 AM

You say Owndull I say Oondull
Depends whether you live near the River Neen or Nenn I guess. I only lived in Wootton for 18 months. Strangely I am typing this in Wotton (under Edge) many miles from Norfampton.

I think they will get the idea: listen to the locals before wagging tongue. Bit like pronouncing Arkansas or Stouffville isn't it?

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: bubblyrat
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 08:26 AM

I like Norwich and its environs too .Have visited it by water,and much enjoyed the cathedral and castle.Karen (Wild Flying Dove) lived in Norwich some years ago, and many of my ancestors,on my mother's side ( Eke) came from Norwich itself and villages around that area ; Corpusty,East Dereham,Wood Dalling,Binham, as per "Will Fly" also .There are some lovely Norfolk place-names ; one of my favourite entries in my father's WW2 log-book says " Base (RAF Oulton) to Little Snoring and return".

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 08:53 AM

While the pronunciation of the name of the River Nene may vary between two towns thru both of which it flows — the Nen in Northampton & the Neen in Ptbro — there is only one town of Oundle, which occupies a fixed site; and the people who live in it, & attenders at its famous school, all favour the Own- [to rime with 'down'] over the Oon- pronunciation: so surely their wishes should be paramount among the general population, howsomever some eccentrics from elsewhere may prefer to distort the name for their own inscrutable reasons.

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Jeanie
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 01:58 PM

Yes - I'll "second", "third" etc. etc. all the favourable comments here ! I've just got back from working there a couple of nights at the Granary Theatre in Wells-next-the-Sea - had never been there before: a lovely and relatively unspoilt place. Had a glorious walk along the sea wall to the beach - looking for the seals who come in there at high tide. The light and space there are awe-inspiring, and just asking to be painted/photographed. Stayed in a lovely B&B called "The Merchant's House", which I would thorougly recommend to anyone going up to stay there.

Hope your cousin and her husband have a fantastic time living in Norfolk, Open Mike.

- jeanie

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: GUEST,Sheringham Boy
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 02:20 PM

The problem with North Norfolk is that it's riddled with grockles and twitchers.

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: GUEST,Mr Red
Date: 02 Dec 09 - 11:13 AM

I can only cite the people who refer to Oondull or Owndull - not being from those parts I hear both and cannot but be confused as to correctness. But at least I have a history of listening to those peeps. A stranger in town has no history of learning the ideosynchrasies.

How would you pronounce Cogenhoe? Wiki seems to have it right.
and does Rushden really have a "z" in it? Or two?

At least Norfolk don't haf any of yer Emmets.

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Old Roger
Date: 02 Dec 09 - 12:48 PM

"At least Norfolk don't haf any of yer Emmets".

That we dew. We got efts 'n harnsers 'n all.

Regarding funny pronunciation of place names

Hunstanton = Hunston
Snettisham = Snetsum
Ingoldisthorpe = %^&*"¬~> I can't pronounce it
Happisburgh = Hazeboro Even the folk in Norfolk think that one is a bit on the peculiar side.

- It was Queen Boudicca started that as everyone know. Baffling the Romans with misinformation so they were always lost - cleverer than switching the signposts around. One of the biggest small towns in the area is called Fakenham which was a bit of a giveaway - it must have been the first one but they got craftier after that. The names all stuck because Norfolk discovered it quite liked misinformation as you can perhaps tell.

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 02 Dec 09 - 12:59 PM

... which leads - ho-hum! - to Great Snoring

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: RamblinStu
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 03:35 AM

There is a lovely song called "Bells of Norwich", I heard it performed by Sue Watson, I don't know who wrote it, or who originally sang it.

Does anyone know of other songs that mention Norwich?

Stuart Pendrill

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 04:03 AM

Another folk artefact, tho not a song, which must be remembered, is the acronym-message from the homeward-bound partner:—

N.O.R.W.I.C.H.   

= [k]Nickers Off Ready When I Come Home

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: bubblyrat
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 04:06 AM

Karen & I sing / play this song.Written by one Sydney Carter,it refers to one Julienne,or Julien,a monastic lady of medieval times,now appearing in the song as Julian (of the eponymous Tower).
       I don't recall any other songs about,or mentioning,Norwich,but I do remember from my Navy days that the word Norwich was much used,on the back of envelopes,by sailors writing home to their girlfriends ,as it meant " (K)nickers Off Ready When I Come Home "-----personally, I preferred " Burma for Siam", but I digress ...sorry !

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: bubblyrat
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 04:07 AM

Gosh !! We both thought of that at the same time !! Spooky !

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 04:07 AM

... & OF COURSE THE NURSERY RHYME OF

THE MAN IN THE MOON
CAME DOWN TOO SOON
& ASKED THE WAY TO NORWICH
—   sorry - not shouting, just got inadvertently stuck on Shift —
They sent him south
Where he burned his mouth
By eating cold pease-porridge.

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 04:14 AM

Yes, Bubbly, I recall The Book Of Dame Julian Of Norwich as one of the least loved impositions of the mediæval section of the Cambridge English Tripos all those years ago... tho not quite as dire as Ancrene Rulle, whatever the hell that meant. But I too digress. Sorry.

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 04:17 AM

Norwich Gaol, incomparably sung by Martin Winsor, one of the finest tracks on Peter Bellamy's great ballad opera album The Transports, don't forget.

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 04:25 AM

... once went to a live perfomance of The Transports at Norwich Castle to review it for Neil Wayne's Acoustic Music magazine, & remember mentioning my car had been parked on just about the spot where Henry Cabell's father & Abe Carman would have been hanged...

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: bubblyrat
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 04:58 AM

Well, I just KNEW that there had to be a rhyme somewhere between Norwich and porridge ! How does one pronounce Horwich,by the way ??

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 06:08 AM

Horwich as in Norwich, Bubbly. I had, as it happens, a cousin called Bessie Horwich who came from Manchester, which Horwich is near.

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 03:04 PM

Further to Old Roger's post... Trunch really is a village in North Norfolk

Kitty

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Old Roger
Date: 03 Dec 09 - 06:07 PM

Hi Herga Kitty,

favourite with me and he missus is Fustyweed. You can find it near Elsing not far from Norwich. Google maps knows it's there.

There's also Grimston which is quite a nice place. And Castle Rising which is slowly falling down. Whatever you read in Norfolk don't believe a word of it. Misinformation all of it. That's why the Romans packed up and went home.

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: open mike
Date: 26 Dec 09 - 12:30 PM

what can you tell me about internet service providers available in the area? any folk clubs?

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Fidjit
Date: 26 Dec 09 - 03:20 PM

What a question Laruel. Any Folk Clubs? Ha. Can of worms now. They are all all down in Suffolk !

Chas

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Old Roger
Date: 26 Dec 09 - 04:01 PM

Hey Open Mike,

I live just a couple of villages away from Rudham where I understand your relative is going to locate. I run The Wolf Folk Club on the Sandringham Estate. I also operate the Norfolk Folk Directory www.norfolkfolk.co.uk which lists all the clubs and other folk stuff in Norfolk but it is always getting out of date because folk forget to let me know etc. If your cousin would like to contact me when settled in I will gladly help her find out the stuff she's looking for. I will provide contact details if you want.

Best regards

Roger

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 27 Dec 09 - 08:34 AM

I long ago realised that some people use the pronunciation of place-names as a silly game. Some years ago I heard a lecture from two poets who waxed lyrical about the North Norfolk coast ("the quality of the light - absolutely marvellous!"). They mentioned the hamlet of Holkham, which is part of the estate of Lord Leicester (of Holkham Hall) and is not far from Wells-next-the-Sea. One poet said that it should be pronounced, "Hoke-am" whilst the other insisted on "Hook-am". After the lecture I went up to them and said, "my grandfather was born and brought up there and he always pronounced it, 'Holk-ham' - just like it's spelled." They were not too pleased!

There is also a place in West Yorkshire called Slaithwaite. If you pronounce it as "Slaith-wait" people look pityingly at you and say, "of course you know it's pronounced, "Slau-wit" (the 'slau' rhyming with 'now'). But if you pronounce it 'Slau-wit' people say, "oh, no-one pronounces it like that nowadays - that's very old-fashioned!" You can't win!

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: open mike
Date: 06 Jan 10 - 07:10 PM

i saw a big to-do about a dragon festiville in Norwich for 2009
and can not find a thing aobut it for 2010--does anyone know?

it was late jan. early feb last year...

I wonder if it is happening this year? I thought i would
hear something or find news....

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: open mike
Date: 06 Jan 10 - 07:59 PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/norfolk/content/articles/2009/01/08/dragon_festival_20090108_feature.shtml

this fest. ws 3 weeks long last year..

perhaps they got burned out on putting on
such an involved event?

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: open mike
Date: 19 Dec 10 - 07:34 PM

yes the Norwich Dragon Festival is back on for 2011---in Feb.
www.heritagecity.org/projects/norwich-dragon-festival-2011.htm
would anyone know of a way to contact a shop or booth that sells any
dragon related figures or products??

I am looking to see about having a booth or finding someone who might have a booth or shop who might be interested in some dragon figures for the festival.

Certainly there is a craft faire type event as part of the festivities!!

if anyone is interested in dragons, there will soon be some specimens avaialble thru E-bay. I will post a link when they are ready.

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: JHW
Date: 20 Dec 10 - 02:14 PM

I left when I was nearly 1

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: Fidjit
Date: 21 Dec 10 - 03:54 AM

Laurel
You could ask
Colin Cater

He'd know of someone if he wasn't interested himself.

Chas

Subject: RE: moving to Norwich, UK
From: open mike
Date: 21 Dec 10 - 03:49 PM

thanks...actually looking for any one who might have a shop, booth or stall who might be interested in some dragons. Especially Norwich due to the upcoming festivities...