BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Riginslinger
Date: 09 Feb 10 - 07:28 AM

Actually, I think these are the same folks, older now and wiser...
             The difference is the Democrats have followed the unknowing (i.e. MoveOn.org) off into Never-Never Land, making these mature Perot backers seem extreme right wing.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: mousethief
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 05:33 PM

People who supported Perot understood politics.

O..O
=o=

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 05:12 PM

They look like about the same people to me. What makes them different?

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Amos
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 04:53 PM

No.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 04:04 PM

Are the people supporting the Tea Party Movement the same folks who supported H. Ross Parrot?

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Feb 10 - 11:56 AM

Sarah was on Fox News again on Sunday, which gave her an opportunity to explain and redefine all of the nasty things that have been printed in the mainstream media since the Tea Party convention. A candidate like Palin wouldn't have gotten off the ground in the old days with only three networks.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Riginslinger
Date: 27 Jan 10 - 09:13 PM

Oh, that makes more sense. I thought we were talking about the First Lady.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Jan 10 - 07:47 PM

Well, Rigs, I don't know nuthin' about Ms. Sarah and Levi... Might of fact, with all the stories about who was pregnant whos baby was whos back before the campaign there's nuthin' that would surprise me... I mean, Levi did say that Todd always slept in a recliner in the livin' room... Maybe Todd did and maybe Todd didn't, I donno... I do know it's hard to make babies in a recliner chair... But then again we've all seen the piccures of Ms. Sarah jumpin' over the side of a fishin' boat so maybe...

...ahhhhhh, Todd did knock the ol' gal up in the recliner???

But then again, maybe Levi and Ms. Sarah, ahhhhhhh....

I mean, she does seem to be purdy pissed off at the boy bnut then says he's always welcome in their home???

Like I said, I donno one way or another...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Riginslinger
Date: 27 Jan 10 - 06:52 PM

http://www.wpix.com/news/wpix-obama-times-square-billboard,0,5940005.story

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Donuel
Date: 27 Jan 10 - 05:26 PM

Can;t wait to hear her response to Obama's State of the Union Address.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: gnu
Date: 27 Jan 10 - 05:25 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Riginslinger
Date: 27 Jan 10 - 05:21 PM

Now she's replacing Obama!

http://www.wpix.com/news/wpix-obama-times-square billboard,0,5940005.story

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Riginslinger
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 09:14 PM

You think she's into Levi's pole?

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Bobert
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 04:45 PM

Maybe Levi's pole but certainly not Obama's and...

...200...

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Riginslinger
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 04:03 PM

Or the president's pole at the very least.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: pdq
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 03:14 PM

I'm sure she pays a lot of attention to presidential poles.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 03:13 PM

>>>Jack - I don't think that's the point of the fisherman's post.

The "point" is obviously biased muckraking and spreading lies.. To that end CONGRATULATIONS! You have helped spread it!

But in the "post" the comparison is obviously intended.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: GUEST,999
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 02:59 PM

"I'll have to say I was surprised at the size of the First Lady's staff"



NO COMMENT!

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Riginslinger
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 02:57 PM

Jack - I don't think that's the point of the fisherman's post. I'll have to say I was surprised at the size of the First Lady's staff, but like somebody mentioned up above, I looked up Laura Bush's staff and it was almost as large. I just didn't realize all of those people were on the public payroll. Like you say, they have been for some time.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 02:12 PM

Tho I expect Douggie-Boy to believe it all as gospel truth.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 02:12 PM

Rig,

Obviously all of the "Social Secretary" positions are White House positions which much have existed in some form since Washington.

Likewise, If the first lady give talks independent of her husband, as this one does, then she needs scheduling and press help.

Likewise if the first lady is involved in lending her name and expertise to a number of charity and educational initiatives, she needs press assistants and spokespeople. I have seen interviews with former speechwriters for Laura Bush. Such things are not unprecedented.

Also, who in their right mind would compare the record of a governor to the staff of the First Lady? Is this fictitious fisherman suggesting that he replace Michelle with Sarah? Would that mean he would have to trade Bristol for Sasha? And what about Todd?

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 02:08 PM

Try checking Laura Bush's and Nancy Reagan's staffs.

In addition to swhat's presented being easily proveable bullshit, the implication that its out of the ordinary is ALSO bullshit.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Riginslinger
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 01:01 PM

Maybe not - there could be folks on the payroll like a gardener or a housekeeper that some people would say are members of the First Lady's staff, others would not.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 12:48 PM

I said 'irrefutable' in the last post; of course, I meant that the claims are easily refutable.

If you check the link, Rig, you will learn that Hillary Clinton had a total of 19 staff, a far cry from the claim of 3..

That is an example of what I mean about 'refutable'- these things are easily looked up.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 12:42 PM

Just tell people what they want to hear...or expect to...and they will believe it.

This principle has long been understood by demagogues and propaganda ministers everywhere.

He who best controls the flow of propaganda WILL control the public consciousness, as long as the system that stands behind the propaganda is able to effectively maintain itself.

For instance, Nazi propaganda easily convinced millions of Germans that Poland was menacing Germany in 1939 and that a German attack on Poland was a justifiable act of self-defence. They continued convincing millions of Germans of various other unrealistic things. This was not because Germans are stupid people. It was because the Nazi government had very good control of the flow of propaganda through the media. The illusions didn't begin to collapse until the war was so clearly lost that the failure and madness of the Nazi system could no longer be hidden from the general public.

Anyone who wishes to believe that Sarah Palin is a political saviour and who hates the Obamas will naturally believe what was said in the Dewie Whetsell email. It's a way of encouraging the enthusiasm of the already converted.

By the other token, those who love Obama and hate Sarah Palin won't believe a word of it...but it isn't being sent out for them! ;-) It's a call to a different constituency.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Riginslinger
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 12:29 PM

"Its true, the First Lady of The United States has a staff and it takes people to run the White House Social Calendar."


                I'd be surprised if any previous First Lady had a staff like that, though I don't know if the list is accurate either.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 11:42 AM

Every single one of those numbered items is FALSE. Is that what the next election will sound like?

Ask Douggie-Boy.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 11:29 AM

FactCheck


I'm sorely afraid, Little Hawk, that this is the beginning of the onslaught. Every one of those claims is easily irrefutable- and they know it. But they also know that most people won't check.

I went to Whetsel's website. Allegedly he lived in Cordova, a small town on Prince William Sound. But then he goes on to say that he "continues to make music (horn player) in Anchorage."

Well, Anchorage is NOT a small town so he can't be speaking of it. And if he "makes music" in Anchorage, he has a hell of a commute.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Little Hawk
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 11:25 AM

If it's all lies...and I presume you know, Ebbie, since you are an Alaskan...then I wonder who put it all together and who is paying them to?

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 11:07 AM

My god. It's a lie from start to finish. Every single one of those numbered items is FALSE. Is that what the next election will sound like? Is noone held accountable?

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 11:04 AM

Yes Rig,

Its true, the First Lady of The United States has a staff and it takes people to run the White House Social Calendar.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Riginslinger
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 10:42 AM

More importantly, though, is he right about Michelle Obama's staff?

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Amos
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 10:39 AM

I think it would be a lovely defense of the lady if only it were straight truth itself. But I doubt things are that simple.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Greg F.
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 10:32 AM

Oh, yeah good old lyingsackof$hitpresscanada.com.

With such insightful recent screeds as
"Obama-Drooling Media Create Their Very Own Lame Duck","Keeping awake while Obama sings his Marxist Lullabye", and "Massachusetts Win: Obama Vows Retaliation Against American People".

From Wickipedia:

Canada Free Press and Garth Pritchard apologized in 2005 to David Pugliese and CanWest Global Media Works Publications Inc. for allegedly defaming them in an article written by Pritchard entitled "Bedroom Slipper Journalism". Pritchard had falsely accused Pugliese of not having any hands-on experience, and lacking credibility. In fact, Pugliese has reported from active war/conflict zones as well as peacekeeping operations.

Canada Free Press reports opinion pieces, rather than news. It has falsely listed Timothy F. Ball as "a renowned environmental consultant and former climatology professor at the Univ. of Winnipeg", and indicated he possesses a "Ph.D. in Climatology" from the "University of London, Englend." Neither claim is correct, as the University of Winnipeg has no such department, as Ball was only a sessional lecturer in Geography in Winnipeg, and he obtained a Geography Ph.D. in London.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Jack the Sailor
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 10:28 AM

Yes Rig, Its going around the Internet. If the writer of that was an Alaskan fisherman, I am a Nigerian Prince.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Riginslinger
Date: 26 Jan 10 - 10:12 AM

This is going around the internet now:




Subject: Why They Have A Problem With Sara Palin

By Dewie Whetsell, Alaskan Fisherman.

The last 45 of my 66 years I've spent in a commercial fishing town in Alaska . I understand Alaska politics but never understood national politics well until this last year. Here's the breaking point: Neither side of the Palin controversy gets it. It's not about persona, style, rhetoric, it's about doing things. Even Palin supporters never mention the things that I'm about to mention here.



1. Democrats forget when Palin was the Darling of the Democrats, because as soon as Palin took the Governor's office away from a fellow Republican and tough SOB, Frank Murkowski, she tore into the Republican's "Corrupt Bastards Club" (CBC) and sent them packing. Many of them are now residing in State housing and wearing orange jump suits The Democrats reacted by skipping around the yard, throwing confetti and singing, "la la la la" (well, you know how they are). Name another governor in this country that has ever done anything similar.

2. Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to protect the huge, giant oil companies here. So she constructed and enacted a new system of splitting the oil profits called "ACES." Exxon (the biggest corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them, "don't let the door hit you in the stern on your way out." They stayed, and Alaska residents went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich. Of course, the other huge international oil companies meekly fell in line. Again, give me the name of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar.

3. The other thing she did when she walked into the governor's office is she got the list of State requests for federal funding for projects, known as "pork." She went through the list, took 85% of them and placed them in the "when-hell-freezes-over" stack. She let locals know that if we need something built, we'll pay for it ourselves. Maybe she figured she could use the money she got from selling the previous governor's jet because it was extravagant.

Maybe she could use the money she saved by dismissing the governor's cook (remarking that she could cook for her own family), giving back the State vehicle issued to her, maintaining that she already had a car, and dismissing her State provided security force (never mentioning - I imagine - that she's packing heat herself). I'm still waiting to hear the names of those other governors.

4. Now, even with her much-ridiculed "gosh and golly" mannerism, she also managed to put together a totally new approach to getting a natural gas pipeline built which will be the biggest private construction project in the history of North America. No one else could do it although they tried. If that doesn't impress you, then you're trying too hard to be unimpressed while watching her do things like this while baking up a batch of brownies with her other hand.



5. For 30 years, Exxon held a lease to do exploratory drilling at a place called Point Thompson. They made excuses the entire time why they couldn't start drilling. In truth they were holding it like an investment. No governor for 30 years could make them get started. Then, she told them she was revoking their lease and kicking them out. They protested and threatened court action. She shrugged and reminded them that she knew the way to the court house. Alaska won again.



6. President Obama wants the nation to be on 25% renewable resources for electricity by 2025. Sarah went to the legislature and submitted her plan for Alaska to be at 50% renewables by 2025. We are already at 25%. I can give you more specifics about things done, as opposed to style and persona Everybody wants to be cool, sound cool, look cool. But that's just a cover-up. I'm still waiting to hear from liberals the names of other governors who can match what mine has done in two and a half years. I won't be holding my breath.


By the way, she was content to return to AK after the national election and go to work, but the haters wouldn't let her. Now these adolescent screechers are obviously not scuba divers. And no one ever told them what happens when you continually jab and pester a barracuda. Without warning, it will spin around and tear your face off. Shoulda known better.

You have just read the truth about Sarah Palin that sends the media, along with the democrat party, into a wild uncontrolled frenzy to discredit her. I guess they are only interested in skirt chasers, dishonesty, immoral people, liars, womanizers, murderers, and bitter ex-presidents' wives.

So "You go, Girl." I only wish the men in Washington had your guts, determination, honesty, and morals. I rest my case. Only FOOLS listen to the biased media.

If you've read this far ...............................................

First Lady Michelle Obama's Servant List and Pay Scale

First Lady Requires More Than Twenty Attendants

1. $172,2000- Sher, Susan    (Chief Of Staff)

2. $140,000- Frye, Jocelyn C .    (Deputy Assistant to the President and Director of Policy And Projects For The First Lady)



3. $113,000- Rogers, Desiree G    (Special Assistant to the President and White House Social Secretary)

4. $102,000- Johnston, Camille Y. (Special Assistant to the President and Director of Communications for the First Lady)

5. $100,000- Winter, Melissa E. (Special Assistant to the President and Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)

6. $90,000- Medina , David S. (Deputy Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)

7. $84,000 - Lelyveld, Catherine M. (Director and Press Secretary to the First Lady)

8. $75,000 - Starkey, Frances M. (Director of Scheduling and Advance for the First Lady)

9. $70,000 - Sanders, Trooper (Deputy Director of Policy and Projects for the First Lady)

10. $65,000 - Burnough, Erinn J. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)

11. $64,000 - Reinstein, Joseph B. (Deputy Director and Deputy Social Secretary)

12. $62,000 - Goodman, Jennifer R. (Deputy Director of Scheduling and Events Coordinator For The First Lady)

13. $60,000 - Fitts, Alan O. (Deputy Dir ector of Advance and Trip Director for the First Lady)

14. $57,500 - Lewis, Dana M. (Special Assistant and Personal Aide to the First Lady)

15. $52,500 - Mustaphi, Semonti M. (Associate Director and Deputy Press Secretary To The First Lady)

16. $50,000 - Jarvis, Kristen E. (Special=2 0Assistant for Scheduling and Traveling Aide To The First Lady)

17. $45,000 - Lechtenberg, Tyler A. (Associate Director of Correspondence For The First Lady)

18. $43,000 - Tubman, Samantha (Deputy Associate Director, Social Office)

19. $40,000 - Boswell, Joseph J. (Executive Assistant to the Chief Of Staff to the First Lady)

20. $36,000 - Armbruster, Sally M. (Staff Assistant to the Social Secretary)

21. $35,000 - Bookey, Natalie (Staff Assistant)

22. $35,000 - Jackson, Deilia A. (Deputy Associate Director of Correspondence for the First Lady)

    (This is community organizing at it's finest.)

There has NEVER been anyone in the White House at any time who has created such an army of staffers whose sole duties are the facilitation of the First Lady's social life. One wonders why she needs so much help, at taxpayer expense, when even Hillary, only had three; Jackie Kennedy one; Laura Bush one; and prior to Mamie Eisenhower social help came from the President's own pocket.

Note: This does not include makeup artist Ingrid Grimes-Miles, 49, and "First Hairstylist" Johnny Wright, 31, both of whom traveled aboard Air Force One to Europe.

FRIENDS.....THESE SALARIES ADD UP TO SIX MILLION, THREE HUNDRED SIXTY FOUR THOUSAND DOLLARS ($6,364,000)FOR THE 4 YEARS OF OFFICE?????   AND WE ARE IN A RECESSION????? WELL....MOST OF US ARE. I GUESS IT'S OK TO SPEND WILDLY WHEN IT'S NOT YOUR OWN MONEY?????

Copyright 2009 Canada FreePress.Com

canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12652

Yes, I know, The Canadian Free Press has to publish this because the USA media is too scared they might be considered racist. Sorry USA!

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Riginslinger
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 01:17 PM

"What's that about?"

          Ebbie - I was just trying to make the point that there are a lot of advantages to being independently wealthy if you want to hold public office in America.
          If you're poor, your political enemies can bog you down in an effort to render you impotent by continually slapping you with frivolous law suits. They couldn't do that to a wealthy candidate because he/she wouldn't have to borrow money to defend themselves. They could, in fact, counter sue and run the heritics to ground. A less well capitalized candidate is less able to do that.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: GUEST,Jayto
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 12:47 PM

I think she is a perfect addition to Faux News. :)

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 11:47 AM

"Possibly, but there was an article on the web a month or so back about members of Congress who were being investigated for ethics violations. It turned out that a majority of the members under investigation were black." Rig

What's that about?

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Riginslinger
Date: 25 Jan 10 - 08:41 AM

"Rig, the actual cost to her of those 'frivolous' lawsuits has been greatly inflated by Palin."

                  Possibly, but there was an article on the web a month or so back about members of Congress who were being investigated for ethics violations. It turned out that a majority of the members under investigation were black. The article went on to say that Jane Harman probably would be placed under investication for leaking classified information to Israel, but do to the wealth of that member the committee passed her over because she would be in a postion to hire such a sophisticated legal team, she would be able to stymie the investication.

                  I think Palin has discovered the rich candidates fare better than poor candidates in the America system.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 09:36 PM

There are internationally accepted exclusions for cultural differences that Chongo and his peers share.

While it would be inappropriate for Ebbie to sling her poo at Riginslinger, it is a normal cultural gesture of respect for Chongo.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 09:18 PM

Good point!

I'll have to rethink that whole concept.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 09:06 PM

Because he is smarter?

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 07:12 PM

Chongo has been accused of violating ethics rules on hundreds of occasions, and it hasn't stopped him. Why should it stop Sarah Palin?

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 07:08 PM

Not all of them were frivolous, by any means, Richard. In her book and previously, Palin stated that she was found not guilty of illegally interfering in the Troopergate (How tired I am of the 'gate' designation!) but the fact is that she was found guilty of violating ethics rules.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Donuel
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 03:56 PM

Good thing that Mr and Mrs Clinton were never hounded by any lawsuits right after they got in office.

By any I mean 32.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 03:50 PM

Frivolous?

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Ebbie
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 12:45 PM

Rig, the actual cost to her of those 'frivolous' lawsuits has been greatly inflated by Palin.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Riginslinger
Date: 24 Jan 10 - 07:36 AM

I don't think there are many folks out there who would deny that she's in it for the money.

          On the other hand, a string of frivolous law suits in Alaska almost drove her and her husband into bankruptcy. Just another example of how much advantage a wealthy candidate has in the
American system.

Subject: RE: BS: Sarah Palin goes to Fox News
From: Donuel
Date: 23 Jan 10 - 10:04 AM

Note that Palin's FOX news week of appearnces kept her away from Massacusetts.

SHe is easily manipulated, for a price, and will continue to be lured away from doing further damage to select republicandidates.