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Subject: RE: BS: Ticks From: Ebbie Date: 23 Apr 10 - 12:30 AM We don't have ticks (or snakes) in Alaska but we had plenty in Virginia when I was a kid. Learned right quick to inspect any exposed skin. Not my favourite job; even worse was finding them. As has been mentioned a time or two, we do have mosquitoes in Alaska. Big, slow, dumb ones that don't mind dying. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ticks From: Ebbie Date: 23 Apr 10 - 12:33 AM We don't have ticks (or snakes) in Alaska but we had plenty of both in Virginia when I was a kid. Learned right quick to inspect any exposed skin. Not my favourite job; even worse was finding one. As has been mentioned a time or two, we do have mosquitoes in Alaska. Big, slow, dumb ones that don't mind dying. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ticks From: Ebbie Date: 23 Apr 10 - 12:34 AM Humph. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ticks From: Louie Roy Date: 23 Apr 10 - 11:27 PM Melissa I don't know whether this will work on a large piece of ground but it s worth a try and it is fairly cheap and evironment safe in fact it is used as a fertilized so I know it will not harm your other grasses or flowers. We use it all the time here on the ranch to keep the bugs ,Ticks and flies of off of our animals. You should be able to buy it at any farmer's supply store and it comes in bulk form and it is called sulphur powder. In 1946 I was working on a United States forest surface road in a infected area of the deadly Rocky Mountain ticks and we put this on our under clothes each morning before going to work and I don't know of one single case where one of the worker was bitten and there were no ticks in the bunkhouse of course the bunkhouse smelled like sulphur but so did all the men. If you give it a try let me know if it works and I firmly believe it will Louie Roy |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ticks From: Melissa Date: 24 Apr 10 - 12:28 AM I think I'll see if I can find sulfur and give it a try first. If I can find it, it's no doubt cheaper than malathion. What's the stuff they put in those flappy bag things for cattle to dust themselves? Is that a sulfur blend? (sulfur might be an improvement over some of the bunkhouse smells I've noticed..) I do kind of like the idea of paving the yard. It could be a lot of fun in the winter when it's icy and in the other seasons, I could draw all kinds of flowers on it with chalk. Ebbie-I especially hate the ones that are on unexposed skin! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ticks From: GUEST,Itchy Date: 24 Apr 10 - 02:14 AM Tick bite link to meat allergy 3 May 2009 - 12:00pm A Sydney allergy practice has found an 'overwhelming majority' of a group of patients who developed a rare allergy to red meat had previously had an adverse reaction to tick bites. Clinical Immunologists, Drs Sheryl van Nunen and Suran Fernando and colleagues, of Royal North Shore Hospital, found that 24 of 25 patients who presented with a history of allergic reaction to red meat also reported large local reactions to tick bites. "Seventeen of the 25 had a severe reaction to the bite, such as tongue swelling, throat constriction or shortness of breath," Dr Fernando said. Patients then reported that they had previously been bitten by a tick, resulting in a painful, itchy lesion greater than 50mm that lasted at least a week. "All of the patients lived in Sydney's northern beaches area, which is endemically infested with several tick species. They all described the culprit as a hard-bodied tick shaped like a human fingernail ranging in size from 3 to 10 mm. This is most likely to be Ixodes holocyclus, commonly known as the paralysis tick, which is "not only the most commonly found species that affects humans in the area, but is also the species most associated with hypersensitivity reactions in humans". The researchers set up a retrospective control, contacting 29 patients from the clinic with allergies to foods other than red meat residing in the same region. All 29 reported a history of tick bites without subsequent reaction. "The findings suggest that, in our patient population, the overwhelming majority of people with the relatively rare condition of red meat allergy are preceded by sensitisation to tick bites," Dr Fernando said. Further research is needed, but it could be that "individuals are sensitised to tick salivary proteins that are cross-reactive with proteins found in various red meats". "To determine the true prevalence of this cross-reactivity, a prospective study could examine consecutive patients who are bitten by ticks (with and without reactions) for the subsequent development of red meat allergy." Tick bites and red meat allergies I had a very nasty reaction just as described. A head toe toe rash, unbearable itching even inside my mouth and ears, agonizing headache ( caused by rash inside head?). Very scary indeed. I had not heard about the possible tick bite connection until just recently. I have heard that this syndrome also occurs in USA and other places. Anyone else had this problem? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ticks From: Melissa Date: 24 Apr 10 - 02:24 AM I've never heard of that, Itchy. It sounds terrible! How is the rash treated? After you've had it, are you always allergic to red meat? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ticks From: Louie Roy Date: 24 Apr 10 - 10:19 AM Yes Melissa those bag you buy for cattle rubs are probably 90% sulfur |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ticks From: GUEST,Itchy and scratchy Date: 24 Apr 10 - 11:12 PM First episode 5 years ago, same thing a year later caused by stupidly grazing on party snacks... Carried an Epi Pen for a while but now I just take antihistamines as soon as the itch starts. (starts on soles of feet then ears, groin etc) Takes about 20 minutes to start getting really bad. Fast acting antihistamines seem to fix the problem. Best to avoid red meat. Best to avoid green meat also!
-Joe Offer- |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ticks From: Melissa Date: 25 Apr 10 - 02:34 AM Itchy, you reminded me of that "eat right, exercise, die anyway" song ("don't eat red meat..it's bad for you/don't eat green meat..it's bad for you") Are pork and chicken ok? I hope those meat-offensive ticks don't start showing up in my area! --- What happens to sulfur when it rains? Would I have to apply it really often..or just a couple times through the summer? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ticks From: Greg F. Date: 25 Apr 10 - 10:05 AM Sorry to be repetitious - really- but DO contact your local Agricultural Extension office for the straight dope on this, afore you end up killing everything that walks, crawls or flies. Please. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ticks From: Louie Roy Date: 25 Apr 10 - 11:02 AM Melissa I don't know if rain will wash it off and you have to apply it again but it still be on the ground and sulfur is not a killing agent it is a repellent and it is used by thousands of ranchers and farmers in dust bags to repell insects off of their animals.As I said to start with I don't whether this will work on a large area but this will be up to you whether you want to experiment or not Louie |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ticks From: Melissa Date: 25 Apr 10 - 12:49 PM Louie, Sulfur (or cattle-bag mix) ought to be enough cheaper than the other stuff to at least be worth trying. It will be handy if it works..and if it doesn't, I'll try something else. I think it seems better to offend ticks/fleas than kill them so it's worth a shot. That stuff is probably easier to find than nematodes. GregF, If I was truly hell-bent on raising a poisonously destructive ruckus and killing everything in sight, I wouldn't have started a thread asking other folks what they use. I'm working toward learning enough to make a sensible choice. Chances are, Dept of Ag would be glad to suggest what I should do and how I should do it..and they'd most likely do that without offering a suggestion that fits within what I can afford and what I can physically do. I don't want to be Told what to do--I want to have enough information to Decide what to do. I know you're trying to convince me not to run off halfcocked and that you think I should check with the Proper Authorities. If you're doing that out of concern/consideration, thank you. I'm bright enough to realize that what I do to the ground affects the world. I live here. I am not planning to kill anything but the things that want to bite me. I don't have any plans to put anything on the ground that will poison my pets or ground water. I also don't have any plans to live in the middle of a tick festival. Thanks everybody, M |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ticks From: pdq Date: 25 Apr 10 - 02:11 PM "Sulfur (or cattle-bag mix) ought to be enough cheaper than the other stuff..." Well, probably not, since you will need about 10 lb of elemental sulfur per thousand square feet of land. You will also have to hire a tractor operator who has both spreader and rototilling attachments. Spreading it on the top will do little good if it all blows away. Elemental sulfur can be found a farm supply stores in 50 lb bags for $25 to $85 per bag so shop carefully. Your one acre is about 43,000 sq ft so you will need 430 lb of elemental sulfur. That's about 9 of the 50 lb bags. I suspect land must be completely cleared for the rototilling to be done. Have fun. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ticks From: Greg F. Date: 25 Apr 10 - 06:27 PM I don't want to be Told what to do--I want to have enough information to Decide what to do. Sigh. That's precisely what the Ag Extension folks DO and are "in business" for- to provide information. And it comes from entomologists, chemists, integretated pest management professionals and the like- rather than a bunch of random folks on an internet discussion group. But hey - what do I know................... Have fun. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ticks From: Sorcha Date: 25 Apr 10 - 08:24 PM Get powdered sulfa and put it on YOU and the critters. I know for a FACT that it keeps 'chiggers' off. Worth a try for ticks and fleas. Chiggers, for those who don't know them are a skin burrowing mite...raise HUGE welts that ITCH worse than anything else I've ever encountered. They live mostly in the South...damp, humid...and they like the damp, humid spots on the human body too.....I'll leave you to guess. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ticks From: Jim Dixon Date: 14 May 10 - 06:35 PM Sulfonamide (commonly called sulfa) is not the same thing as sulfur. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Ticks From: kendall Date: 14 May 10 - 07:27 PM I had our property sprayed for ticks and I was working on the edge of the woods all day with no sign of them. I wish they were big enough to shoot. |
