BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam

Subject: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 06:55 PM

Since this is beyond reality, I am gonna coppy and paste it.

Wed Apr 21, 11:40 AM

OTTAWA (CBC) - The West Block of Parliament needs urgent repair and could face a "total failure" of its heating, cooling and electrical systems in three years if work isn't completed soon, Canada's auditor general says.

Auditor General Sheila Fraser said her office has been sounding warnings that repairs to the Parliament Buildings are not moving quickly enough, but she said work has been slow because there are too many agencies involved.

"This is the third audit that the office has done on this [and we've been] indicating each time that the buildings are deteriorating," said Fraser in issuing her report on Tuesday.

I think by addressing the question of who is actually managing the project and how it's being done we're getting to the core issues for some of the delays over the years," she said.

The renovations have been continuing off and on for more than 20 years. In 2007 the government implemented a multibillion-dollar 25-year plan to repair, refurbish and maintain existing parliamentary facilities and provide additional facilities.

Public Works handles the work but needs Treasury Board approval for money. The House of Commons and the Senate have a say, however, in when work is done so that it doesn't disrupt sessions of Parliament or work in offices.

Getting work done efficiently requires better co-ordination between the different stakeholders, she said.

Doing the work quickly is also a priority, she said, particularly in the West Block, which holds the offices of Members of Parliament.

"The West Block has been assessed as being in critical condition," she said.

"The stone work has a lot of cracks and is crumbling. There's asbestos in the building. There's major work that has to be done so there is a project underway," said Fraser. The electrical and temperature systems in the buildings are also in danger of a "total failure" by 2013, she said.

Repairs to the West Block require the MPs to move out to accommodate the repairs, she said. Once that work is complete, repairs to the Centre Block can be completed, with the House of Commons moving to the West Block temporarily.

Public Works has estimated the cost to repair the West Block and find alternative space during repairs at $1.18 billion.
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$1.18B???? I think somebody is gettin f

And that would be every Canuck taxpayer. What a load of shite.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 07:31 PM

If you search, you will find headlines about The Brisbane Town Hall about to fall down and needing massive expensive repairs too.

In case you didn't know, it was built on a swamp - well it seemed a good idea at the time....

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 07:55 PM

Like so many other things, the thinking seems to have been "If you build it you can forget about it." Instead of on-going maintenance we all seem to feel that it's cheaper to defer it until the last minute.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 08:04 PM

Well, $1.8B is not deferred maintenance, it's a whitewash.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: bobad
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 08:12 PM

I'm sure $1.8 billion can buy you some pretty impressive edifices.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: Rapparee
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 08:18 PM

For CDN $1.8 billion you might consider a whole new building.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 09:03 PM

To rebuild the Parliament buildings, with their fine stone, carved decoration, and fine wood, would cost many billions in today's dollars. The repairs and temporary relocations are currently est. at $5 billion.
West Wing repairs were est. at almost $2 billion a few years back.

The Parliament Buildings are part of the Canadian Heritage; their preservation and repair is a must.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 09:34 PM

some years back the Australian Parliament (also a heritage building, tho younger) was replaced by another iconic building. The old one is now a museum, tho if your "old" one is badly damaged, building a new one & repairing the old one would add to the cost.

sandra

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: 3refs
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 08:18 AM

First I'll state that the Parliament Buildings are part of our heritage and should be repaired!
One of the biggest stumbling blocks, no pun intended, is they house so many different entities; Senate, R.C.M.P., Parks Canada, Treasury Board and many others with some of the following in charge of things- The House of Commons, in which:

36 have been accused of spousal abuse

7 have been arrested for fraud

19 have been accused of writing bad cheques

117 have directly or indirectly   bankrupted at least 2 businesses

3 have done time for assault

71 repeat 71

cannot get a credit card due to bad credit

14 have been arrested on drug-related charges

8 have been arrested for shoplifting

21 currently are defendants in lawsuits,

and

84 have been arrested for drunk driving

in the last year.

Canada, I give you our Members of Parliament!

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: GUEST,Neil D
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 09:29 AM

Your parliament sounds like our NFL.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: GUEST,3refs
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 09:38 AM

One difference may be that you can get popped up here for impaired driving and possession of cocaine and walk away with a conviction for dangerous driving!
Go Canada Go!(oops, thought it was a hockey game for a sec)

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 01:41 PM

3refs- provide backup data for those statements.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: GUEST,999
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 01:52 PM

`The West Block of Parliament needs urgent repair and could face a "total failure" of its heating, cooling and electrical systems in three years if work isn't completed soon, Canada's auditor general says.`

I opine they will do much less damage to Canada if they just ain`t there. I am grateful we don`t get all the government we pay for.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: CET
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 09:01 PM

You beat me to it, Q. What a load of crap. If 3refs knew what he was talking about, he could give names since all those criminal charges and court cases are public record.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: CET
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 09:04 PM

Oh, and the price for the repairs and new office space while the work is being done doesn't surprise me. It's the cost of not doing it right in the first place. It seems that no previous government had the guts to say that the money had to be spent, even if the citizenry screamed "Scam!"

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 22 Apr 10 - 09:52 PM

"Cost of not doing it right..."
Too true! It happens at every level of government. Someone shouts it costs too much and the city-state-province-federal elected representatives back off so infrastructure is kept below Lower Slobovian levels.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: GUEST,Charmion's brother Andrew
Date: 23 Apr 10 - 08:08 AM

CET said "If 3refs knew what he was talking about...." According to Snopes, 3refs is citing a libel of the Parliament of Canada that was originally uttered as a slur of the U.S. Congress, so, plainly he doesn't.

I often work in West Block. It's a glorious old building that was weakened by repair work in the 1960s and '70s. The use of the wrong sort of mortar has proven just short of disasterous.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: GUEST,999
Date: 23 Apr 10 - 09:52 AM

It should be noted that the list posted by 3refs has been kicking around the www for many years. It`s also been proven to be fiction. That said with my respects to 3refs. He`s a good guy.

HOWEVER, I was quite shocked to see that a member of parliament was busted for drunk driving and--surprise surprise--he didn`t lose his license as you or I would. Nooooooooooooo, he received a lesser charge. Anyone else here find something wrong with that (I`m using a French Google site and can`t figure out how to get the question mark--sorry to the pedants out there).

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: GUEST,Charmion's brother Andrew
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 03:26 PM

If you're referring to the Jaffer case in Orangeville, the Crown Attorney has said the police botched the arrest and the conviction they got (dangerous driving, a Criminal Code offence rather than a Highway Traffic Act offence) was the best they could do under the circumstances. Jaffer is also no longer an M.P., having lost his seat in 2008. He is married to an M.P. whom the prime minister has expelled from caucus pending a resolution of an investigation of allegations of influence peddling by her ex-M.P. husband.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 04:39 PM

I forget... how many MPs during the Mulroney years were brought before the court for criminal charges (the Liberals ARE not SQUEAKY CLEAN either) or had the charges dropped because the RCMP "dropped the ball"? What about Gagliano - do you really think PWGSC is squeaky clean to this day? What about... hmmm... that would be too long a post...

The present rehab project work has been going on for 18 years. The MYOP (Multi-Year Operational Plan) has been in various stages for over 23 years or LONGER. $1B was allocated in 2002 and the next phase is to begin. The very fact that the AG has issued this dire warning to expidite an emergency call for such an expenditure is, at best, sad.

I am not privy to the details but I have a feeling that sommat is not all roses in Blunderland. Having worked as an engineer for 30 years, I smell rats. And I am a tad cheesed off. The least PWGSC could do to allay my concerns is publish the costs of temporary accomodations and the names of the lessees. On accounta THAT's where I FEEL the scam that I PERCIEVE is worst.

And, what about past fascia repairs which are shite? In Ottawa? With all the TOP LEVEL PWGSC engineers a stone throw away that are so highly paid? NO proper specs or quality control? Seriously, it reeks. Nobody could enforce the AKA standards of construction written by PWGSC????

Replace copper rooves? Now... you gotta show me that in pictures and explain that one in detail. That just don't make no sense to this here Down East New Brunswick Kent County good old boy.

Ohhhh me nerves... I gotta take a break and catch me breath.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 05:10 PM

Hire Guy Fawkes to do the renovations!

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: GUEST,999
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 05:31 PM

Thanks for correcting my info, Andrew.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 05:46 PM

Sandy... it's been done!

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: 3refs
Date: 24 Apr 10 - 07:02 PM

Holding my tongue on this one, now that I've been called out. And I guess I should!
Liable, I guess so! But, #&^#^#*! Take that to court!
Corruption, it really starts at the top, not bottom!
According to some I'm a bottom feeder!

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: CET
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 12:37 PM

I can guarantee you that, no matter who you are, if you are found guilty of impaired driving, or operating a motor vehicle with more than 80 mg of alcohol per 100 ml of blood, (both Criminal Code charges, not provincial Highway Traffic Act)two things will happen. One, the judge will impose a period of prohibition from driving anywhere in Canada. Two, the provincial licensing authorities will suspend your driving license.

Dangerous driving is a serious charge, but it doesn't involve an automatic driving prohibition. I'm not sure what the provincial authorities would do about the license, but as a minimum it would involve a whack of demerit points. It's been a long time since I practiced any drinking and driving law.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: GUEST,Charmion's brother Andrew
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 03:48 PM

The copper roofing was material that was available during the Great War; it was not a gauge that an engineer or architect would specify today. The technique used in its application was not up to snuff, many of the craftsmen being away at war. Acid rain had been having its way with it. (Every bronze statue in Ottawa also had to undergo restoration and have a protective coating applied. The corrosion is already coming back.) Quite simply, the roofs had to be replaced about three quarters of the way through their lives. (The Fairmont Chateau Laurier, with a similar roofing system, is replacing its copper sheathing, but it got the expected 100 years out of it.)

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 03:59 PM

Ahhh... got a PM re the term "fascia" in a post of mine above. Apparently, this term is not commonly used in some jurisdictions. If I had used "veneer", it may have been equally confusing to some as it mainly is applied to "thin" materials like brick.

To clarify, albeit still semi-vague, the recent masonry repairs which were done were shite and have to be done again.

We now return to regular programming...

I think the programming by PWGSC and the politicians is a load of shite. What is needed is engineers who will stand up to the bureaucrats and politicians and say no more bullshit, no more graft... I am gonna do my job and if you wanna change my written words which are stamped under profession seal, go ahead BUT you sign it and date it and have it notarized and I want two original copies.

Been there, done it, got the t-shirt. The t-shirt says "This man will never work for any Federal, Provincial or Municipal government Again."

BTW, I never was fired. I got out rather than lose my dignity, integrity and sanity... from all three levels of government. I could not take the crap. I could not eat at the trough any more and sleep well at night.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 25 Apr 10 - 04:42 PM

Andrew... I stand corrected. I had no idea that that an architect employed by the government would allow anything less than top grade copper to be used. The thinnest copper sheathing lasts at least 60 years even with acid rain conditions. As far as poor trades, it's pretty hard to mess that up unless that attachment is made with materials that will cause a galvanic reaction... in which case, the sheathing would likely fail much earlier. The usual grade for buildings such as the subject should last two hundred years minimum.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: GUEST,Charmion's brother Andrew
Date: 26 Apr 10 - 06:43 AM

"The past is a different country. They do things differently there."

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 28 Apr 10 - 08:04 PM

Hmmm.

An endless circle?

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 17 May 10 - 05:18 PM

More of the same.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 18 May 10 - 01:52 AM

And the Auditor General can not dig into this pile of shit either I suppose....................

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: ollaimh
Date: 18 May 10 - 12:19 PM

i', not sure how the indescretions of politicians(mostly tory i point out)have anything to do with renovations but as a former defense lawyer who did a lot of impaired driving defenses with only a few convictions, first charges are not convictions, copr charge a lot of things they can't convivt on, second jaffer wasn't read his rights as the police didn't realize the seriousness of the offenses at the beginning--a stupid decision(ourcanadian police are notoriously badly trained on rights--its easy to read them early and often but they resent it and are too ignorant to realize this IS THEIR JOB). so the criminal charges were dropped as he didn't getb the reqiuired rightsd read.

they also didn't apply the breathalizer correctly and they would have had a challenge there as well, so they took the easy route and pled out. if there was any corruption then it was with the prosecutions collusion and how do you prove that?

the other allegations about members are mostly about charges not convictions--really not fair play. and the mulroney tories did set the record in the british comon wealth for convictions of sitting members of government but most allegations were not proven. did the rcmp collude in easing the way for most of them? very hard to prove.

i\m more concerned by the head of the rcmp turning the last martin election by releasing a letter that ralph goodale was being investigated for criminal charges related to the release of budget information, then later the rcmp funf no foundation for an investigation. zachardelli turned the election in an unprececended interference with politics then got his job at interpol.

finally i see no real reason to use the parliament buildings right now. they have lots of unused office space in opttawa. shut down the
parliament buildings for repairs and it would be quicker and cheaper. they could be reopened as a museum rather than the daily seat of parliament and save money and give the public a great museum on the hill without as much security.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 18 May 10 - 02:17 PM

Drinking and driving?

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 26 May 10 - 04:20 PM

Say what?

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 31 May 10 - 06:16 PM

Mulroney-Schreiber dealings 'inappropriate'

No shit?

Just like a billion dollars for summit security. What a load of horseshit.

Scam after scam. Dollars for Afghanistan. "Bail out" the fuel in the tanks to buy bullets.

Yeah... I AM havin a bad day.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 08 Jun 10 - 06:50 PM

$1.2B now...

summit media centre pool... "The mock lake inside the centre will actually be a 10-centimetre-deep pool, built at a cost of $57,000, Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon told the House."

Oooo... can we all go skinny dippin? Fer **** sake! Loose Cannons abound. Bunch a rich twits that have no idea of what a dollar is.

"Harper's Folly" indeed.

Media exposure of this pool is gonna make $$$ for Canada ? Exposure? Yup... of the stupidity of our twit politicians.

He said to calm down as it was not a "lake" but a reflecting pool. Do your own jokes on that one.

Yeah... another bad day... no wonder.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 19 Jun 10 - 04:47 PM

And the beat goes on.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 19 Jun 10 - 04:51 PM

... and on

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: 3refs
Date: 19 Jun 10 - 05:04 PM

I'm stuck right in the middle of all this crap. 1 hour to Huntsville and just over an hour to Toronto. They've got barriers in place on all the ramps to block access to Hwy #11 and they'll be shutting down the cell towers as the different motorcades go past.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 19 Jun 10 - 09:10 PM

It takes a lot of bullets to shoot people 8 thousand miles away... and a lot of smoke and mirrors to pay for those bullets.

What a load of complete horseshit!

But, I would rather be a Canuck than a poor farmer 8 thousand miles away because it's kinda dicey where the 'enemy' is.

Fookin assholes.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: 3refs
Date: 20 Jun 10 - 05:37 PM

The G7 Summit, which Canada held in June of 1988 cost $25 million. We thought that was useless and a waste of cash! What'a a freakin bargain compared to this!!!

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 20 Jun 10 - 05:58 PM

Well, it was recently announced that our "tour" in Afghanistan may extend beyond the date set (again... the date set??? WTF?) so the money for that has to be shuffled under the table from somewhere.

Hey, the house never loses... especially when they are gambling with YOUR tax dollars.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 22 Jun 10 - 01:45 PM

By The Canadian Press (Today)

TORONTO - The New Yorker has gone Canadian.

The latest issue, which has a cover date of June 28, features all-Canadian ads.

A spokeswoman says it's believed to be the first time in the publication's 85-year history that ads in a single issue have a common theme.

Advertisers include provincial and federal governments as well as financial firms.

The issue coincides with the G8 and G20 summits, which are being held in Ontario in the coming days.

In a 2005 issue, the New Yorker sold all of its ad space to Target. But this latest edition differs because each ad was sold separately.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 22 Jun 10 - 03:33 PM

By Stephanie Levitz, The Canadian Press (Today)

OTTAWA - The cost of running prisons in Canada could almost double over the next five years from the implementation of just one of the Conservative government's tough-on-crime initiatives, a report suggests.

And with the pricetag at $10 billion, Canada's parliamentary budget officer says he's not sure taxpayers can afford it.

"It's a lot of money in a period of time we're generating deficits," Kevin Page told a news conference after releasing his report into the costs of the Truth in Sentencing Act.

In his review, Page found the cost of running prisons could go to $9.5 billion annually in 2015-2016 from $4.4 billion this year, and it could require the construction of as many as a dozen new prisons.

The act limits the credit a judge can allow for time served and Page said it will add about 159 days to average sentences, bringing the average time in federal custody to 722 days from 563.

But the numbers are much higher in the provincial system.

"If you look at average head counts, they are twice as big in the provincial system — 26,000 every year versus 13,000 at the federal level," he said.

"The provinces and the territories carry the weight of the correctional services system in Canada so the impact is going to be enormous on the provinces and territories."

Page estimates the provincial share of prison costs will jump to 56 per cent in 2015-16 from 49 per cent this fiscal year.

Page said he knew incarceration was expensive but, when it came to calculating the figures and the total costs, he said "you get to big numbers in a hurry. Originally, I was shocked how big it was."

The bill, a cornerstone of the Tories' tough-on-crime agenda, received royal assent last October. But the government has been criticized for launching its initiatives without carefully considering the costs.

The 2009-10 federal budget contained no mention of the new act, Page said, and it's not clear whether Corrections Service Canada has budgeted for it either.

Page said the holes in their accounting and refusal to co-operate made it difficult for him to carry out the study, so he cautioned his numbers are conservative estimates.

The $1.8 billion to build new prisons, for example, could be eliminated if no new facilities are built and inmates are required to double- or triple-bunk.

Public Safety Minister Vic Toews said CSC did co-operate and because of that he doesn't understand Page's estimates, especially figures suggesting around a dozen new prisons could be required.

"If he wasn't getting any information from Correctional Services Canada, he must be making this up," Toews told reporters.

Toews said he is sticking by his government's estimates that the program will cost approximately $2 billion over five years, which will include adding some new prison cells.

"I've seen nothing that would change my mind in that respect," said Toews.

"Our goal is to protect Canadians, to keep streets safe. We want to keep dangerous repeat offenders off the streets and we are prepared to pay the cost in order to do that."

Mark Holland, the Liberal MP who asked for the costing, said he was shocked by Page's findings.

"This figure for one (crime) bill is enormous, and we have to remember this is one bill," Holland said. "When you start thinking about all of the other (crime) bills — 13 — this can crush Canada's budget, it can destroy and cannibalize the other departments.

"How are we going to afford our health care? How are we afford education? How are we going to afford our military if we have these failed Republican policies eating away at all the other departments?"

Holland said the Liberals would think harder about signing off on the remaining crime bills if the price tag isn't set up front.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: maeve
Date: 22 Jun 10 - 03:35 PM

We live in interesting times, gnu.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 22 Jun 10 - 06:45 PM

Indeed we do, m... billions of dollars to house the oncoming hoard of criminals. What shite.

More smoke and mirrors to buy bullets.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: Sandy Mc Lean
Date: 22 Jun 10 - 09:02 PM

Perhaps the prison system needs some re-thinking. Hardened criminals and repeat offenders should spend time in high security and they should do the whole sentence. No TV, no sex movies, no T-bone steak, no conjugal visits, and most of all no drugs!
First offenders and ones deserving rehabilitation should be housed separately and encouraged to better themselves. If they co-operate then let them out early, but if they break the rules they go to the Big House to complete their sentence. Anyone trying to form gangs or smuggle drugs into prison spend their sentence in isolation. Random and frequent drug tests should be done. Anyone failing these should have the option of providing their source or facing extra time. Prison time should be used to rehabilitate when practicable but it should also be a stern punishment reflecting the crimes committed. If prison time is to be a deterrent to crime it should not be a soft life paid for by hard working citizens who can not afford the luxuries provided to those behind bars.
If drugs alone were properly controlled it would be a deterrent for a return visit and in the long run reduce total costs!

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: GUEST,bankley
Date: 23 Jun 10 - 08:21 AM

what's next ? FEMA style camps to hold dissidents. Privatizated forced labour gulags ? Tough on crime my ass. The big gangstas are running corporations and making the laws.
No drugs ? does this include prescriptions like Oxycontin ? Let'em grow and smoke all they want, they can provide medicinal weed to compassion clinics which would be a lot better than the Federal crap( Flin Flon /Flim-Flam )..
okay that's my rant for this fine day outside the bars.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 06 Oct 10 - 04:42 PM

A drop in the bucket.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 05:37 PM

Front end loading for a quick getaway? We'll see... maybe.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: GUEST,999
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 05:41 PM

"Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: bobad
Date: 21 Apr 10 - 08:12 PM

I'm sure $1.8 billion can buy you some pretty impressive edifices."



Buy ya some pretty impressive politicians, too.

Subject: RE: BS: Canuck alert... Parliament Building scam
From: gnu
Date: 30 Nov 10 - 06:47 PM

Indeed, 999. And we all know it. Just can't prove it... yet.

Bastards.