Premier David Cameron

Subject: Premier David Cameron
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 May 10 - 02:52 AM

The right person for the job.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 May 10 - 02:54 AM

We celebrate at the Duke of Essex Polo Trophy on June 17!!

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Joe Offer
Date: 12 May 10 - 02:59 AM

I'll betcha this is a non-music thread...

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Click for the news. So, what will we Americans think of this fellow? Will we like him as much as we liked Tony Blair, or as little as the British liked Tony Blair?

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 12 May 10 - 02:59 AM

The voters, minds poisoned by the Marxist Press, couldn't bring themselves to elect a Tory majority and a party closer in policy and history to Labour is getting into bed with the posh children of Thatcher. Never a dull moment.

L in C#

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 12 May 10 - 03:33 AM

People obviously prefer to be screwed by the party they voted for, than the one they voted against!

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: theleveller
Date: 12 May 10 - 03:37 AM

Prime Minister of the Condem-ed - some achievement! LOL!

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Mick Tems
Date: 12 May 10 - 03:58 AM

The Marxist Press? It was the might of the Tory Press, led by "Dirty Digger" Rupert Murdoch, with their out-and-out lies and disinformation, who poisoned the voters' minds and got Cameron into No. 10. Murdoch owns 45 per cent of the British Media, plus other concerns in America (Fox News) and Australia. I am a life member of the National Union of Journalists, who have been fighting the greedy Press barons for a Fair Press and against the savage cuts and cruel redundancies which destroy fair reporting.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 May 10 - 04:02 AM

Is this about football? The last I heard is that David Cameron was the new Prime Minister. Isn't the premiership something to do with 22 men and a bag of wind? Or is that the cabinet?

Is there such a position as Premier in Britain?

DeG

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 12 May 10 - 04:11 AM

So, "David Cameron" is being premiered. Will it win any Oscars, or even BAFTAs?

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 12 May 10 - 04:15 AM

Joe - Not sure if ANYONE will like him -he's BLAND. See his photo.
He hasn't got the smug arrogance that Blair had and he doesn't have the personality that Obama radiates. His public persona since he arrived in the public eye has been "What do you want to hear? That's what I'm going to say!". I'm not sure we have ever heard what HE Himself actually thinks or if he knows himself.
He rode a bicycle to the House of Commons saying it was more "green", but his briefcase followed him in a big black limo, so what was the point of that?
He smiles a lot and says things in a smiley way. He doesn't have that "tub-thumping passion" that allows you to either love or hate the character. He's a a bit like "Norm from Cheers" - You know he's there, but aren't quite sure what he does.
His party scored just over a third of votes cast which means that two thirds of people who voted didn't want them, and if you take into account the people who didn't vote, it is probably only around a fifth of the UK who wanted Tories in power. That said, they didn't go for any of the other either, which is why we are in the current position.
I think most of us are just fed up with politicians in general.
I suspect that in the long term we will only be able to judge him by the scale of the damage he does.
Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Will Fly
Date: 12 May 10 - 04:50 AM

GtD - you got him in a nutshell. Quacking summary.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 May 10 - 04:58 AM

I heard that the best Miliband was the Steve Miller Band!!!

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Penny S.
Date: 12 May 10 - 05:03 AM

There was a piece by Charlie Brooker in the guardian which summed him up. A friend and I have the urge to listen to the Kinks singing "Plastic Man" when his name surfaces.

We shall see. Brooker suggested that he was some sort of android, waiting to implement phase 2.

Penny

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: alanabit
Date: 12 May 10 - 05:37 AM

Largely due to the fact that nobody wants an election in the near future, it is quite possible that Cameron will lead the government sensibly and strive for some kind of concensus. Any party, which takes the British public back to the polls before they are ready, is likely to pay a heavy price. Labour got a good hiding at the polls, but the Conservatives are definitely not popular either. In effect, any governing party would be on probation at the moment as there is no ringing endorsement for anyone. I have - I confess - an almost tribal and pathological loathing of the Tories. However, their main objective is to stay in power. They can only achieve that by addressing the nation as a whole rather than their own lunatic fringes. All is not lost.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 May 10 - 06:08 AM

Dr Price - spot on.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 12 May 10 - 06:26 AM

On the BBC this morning it said that the Tories were going to introduce legislation to guarantee that the government would last a full five years. In other words Parliament would not be able to pass a vote of no confidence in the government and Liberal MPs were voting to prop up the government whatever legislation they introduce. So whatever the Tories do the Liberals have committed all their MPs not to vote against them. This is democracy?

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Stu
Date: 12 May 10 - 06:27 AM

Next election - May 2015.

Five years for the house of cards to come tumbling down.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Leadfingers
Date: 12 May 10 - 06:34 AM

As Dr Price said , 'The Media' decided over a year ago that New Labour were NOT being elected again , and there has been a constant stream of Spin against , particularly , Gordon Brown .
Despite ALL Murdochs efforts , The Consrvative party did NOT get a true majority !

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 12 May 10 - 06:39 AM

"On the BBC this morning it said that the Tories were going to introduce legislation to guarantee that the government would last a full five years. In other words Parliament would not be able to pass a vote of no confidence in the government and Liberal MPs were voting to prop up the government whatever legislation they introduce. So whatever the Tories do the Liberals have committed all their MPs not to vote against them. This is democracy?"

What it means is that the LibDems can vote whichever way they want because the Tories won't be able to blackmail them with the treat of another election. The existing MPs would have to work together to produce a consensus as they won't be able to absolve themselves of responsibility. It seems to work in most of the rest of the world, and I don't really believe that British politicians are any less able and intelligent than their counterparts in the Bundestag etc.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 May 10 - 06:42 AM

Here he is!

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 May 10 - 06:43 AM

Oh dear you sad people, have you no work to get on with?? My client is at the door, must go.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 12 May 10 - 06:45 AM

Imagine the implications if the Queen's Speech and/or Finance Bill fail to be passed through parliament - we could have a government that could, in theory,be unable to implement the budget, but still remain in place. The damage that would cause doesn't bear thinking about.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 12 May 10 - 06:48 AM

Bit early in the day for a 'massage'.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 May 10 - 06:53 AM

we could have a government that could, in theory,be unable to implement the budget, but still remain in place.

Not so. The Prime Minister would cease to be Prime Minister, and if no one else could cobble up a majority in parliament, there'd be a fresh general election.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: greg stephens
Date: 12 May 10 - 07:05 AM

"On the BBC this morning it said that the Tories were going to introduce legislation to guarantee that the government would last a full five years".
I think that is rather exaggerating the effect of fixed-term parliaments. Of course there are circumstances in which governments can be removed.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: TheSnail
Date: 12 May 10 - 07:15 AM

The local Lib Dem candidate's main selling point was that voting for him was the only way to get the sitting Tory MP out. He was right and he won. That means a lot of people who chose the best anti-Tory vote now find they have helped put Cameron in as PM. That's probably true in a lot of contituencies. It's not a trick they will ever be able to pull again.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 12 May 10 - 07:28 AM

The local Lib Dem candidate's main selling point was that voting for him was the only way to get the sitting Tory MP out.

Tactical voting like that wouldn't apply if there's a change to an Alternative Vote system. You could cheerfully give your first choice to whomever you actually liked best. And your second and third etc as well.

Not exactly rocket science...

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Stu
Date: 12 May 10 - 07:30 AM

Oh Jesus.

I just listened to John Redwood on the Jeremy Vine show, and I'm in a state of retro-depression. Retro because the ultimate thin-lipped Saxon lickspittle is back after a conspicuous absence of some years having crawled out from whatever slimy clast he's been secreted under and started spouting the same old shit he spouted in the 80's and 90's.

Depression because of the language he used: "enterprise economy", "tax breaks for rich entrepreneurs (capital gains tax breaks for crying out loud)", "public service cuts (writ large)". Just like the bad old days of Thatcherite economics and the destruction of what society we've rebuilt since the last Tory government.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Lox
Date: 12 May 10 - 07:40 AM

Yes - with the exception of Cameron its the old guard back in powre - hague - letwin - even Ken Clarke!! - oh no there is one exciting new face ... George Osborne ... (gag) ...

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: TheSnail
Date: 12 May 10 - 07:42 AM

McGrath of Harlow

Tactical voting like that wouldn't apply if there's a change to an Alternative Vote system.

Quite agree. My point was that the Lib Dems owed a great deal of their success to tactical voting; people weren't voting FOR them but AGAINST somebody else and where that vote was against the Tories, they won't be forgiven.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 May 10 - 08:01 AM

So, who has the figures for those who voted LibDem to keep the Tories out versus the ones who voted LibDem to keep Labour out? Because if one exceeded the other, then whether they have done themselves a favour or a dis-service all depends which was the highest.

As they said in Monty Pyton's. This sketch is getting silly...

DeG

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Arnie
Date: 12 May 10 - 08:17 AM

Brown lost Labour this election. The Labour 'big guns' should have had the balls to get rid of him last year or even earlier. He's never shown himself to be PM material - he's purely and simply a bean-counter. Always has been, always will be- should've stayed at the Treasury. And the Duffy affair showed him up to be a hypocrite as well. My local labour MP managed to buy himself 2 flats in London at taxypayer-expense. With him and Brown together, no way could I bring myself to vote Labour this time around. The result shows that I was not alone.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 12 May 10 - 08:28 AM

I challenge anyone to watch Gordon Brown's farewell speech followed by Cameron's speech on returning from the Palace and then tell me that they think Cameron is the better man.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Rog Peek
Date: 12 May 10 - 08:31 AM

If they brought back Spitting Image, I guess George Osborne would take John Major's place as the "Grey Man".

Any other ideas for characters from the new cabinet?

Rog

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 12 May 10 - 09:01 AM

They did away with Spitting Image when politicians became too bland. Things have got no better since...

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Lox
Date: 12 May 10 - 09:11 AM

Thatcher may not still be in the cabinet ...

... but her skeleton is coming out of the closet!

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 May 10 - 09:12 AM

I challenge anyone to watch Gordon Brown's farewell speech followed by Cameron's speech on returning from the Palace and then tell me that they think Cameron is the better man.

I did and I do.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Acorn4
Date: 12 May 10 - 09:23 AM

I sometimes think I'm the only person in the country that actually liked Gordon Brown, or is it just the "Daily Mail" telling me that? I wouldn't personally buy a used car from David Cameron.

William Hague would be the "wide mouthed frog" as in the joke on "Spitting Image".

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Acorn4
Date: 12 May 10 - 09:24 AM

... oh and in the tradition of his donning a baseball cap, are we going to see William Hague with the crotch of his trousers round his knees and his underpants showing?

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: MikeL2
Date: 12 May 10 - 09:45 AM

Hi acorn.

No you are not alone. My wife, is a long-time tory - but she actually likes and respects Gordon Brown. At the same time she sees David Cameron as a pompous strutting pillock.

We have been married for 30 years and she is NEVER wrong......lol

cheers

MikeL2

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 12 May 10 - 09:54 AM

....Lib Dems owed a great deal of their success to tactical voting; people weren't voting FOR them but AGAINST somebody else and where that vote was against the Tories, they won't be forgiven.

Absolutely!

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 May 10 - 09:57 AM

And now the APPALLING TREASURY DEFICIT left by Labour has to be dealt with by this government - which they will no doubt do.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser)
Date: 12 May 10 - 10:05 AM

And five years from now the next Labour government will have to deal with the consequences of the cuts in schools, hospitals, Sure Start nurseries, tax credits and public services that the public schoolboys are going to carry out.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 12 May 10 - 10:07 AM

Appalling treasury deficit left by Tory Bankers Gambling away the World Economy...
Quack!
GtD.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: GUEST,Neil D
Date: 12 May 10 - 10:11 AM

So what did the Lib Dems get for forming a coalition with the Tories? I thought Labor had made them a better offer.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Dave MacKenzie
Date: 12 May 10 - 10:33 AM

What about all those people who voted Labour to keep the Tories out. A lot of posters make the assumption that Britain is a two-party state, and this is how things have been, should be, and ever more shall be, sir.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: pdq
Date: 12 May 10 - 10:48 AM

"Appalling treasury deficit left by Tory Bankers Gambling away the World Economy..."

All bankers are members of the Tory party?

The economic collapse that was caused by the United States real estate market failure is the fault of Brittish Tories?

Some of you Brits will blame the 80% of petrol cost that is tax on the Tories too.

One size scapegoat fits all.

All this negativism insures that absolutely nothing will get fixed in the foreseable future.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: theleveller
Date: 12 May 10 - 11:41 AM

"The economic collapse that was caused by the United States real estate market failure is the fault of Brittish Tories?"

I blame Bloody Thatcher - for everything.

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 12 May 10 - 11:58 AM

So do I - hideous woman!

Subject: RE: Premier David Cameron
From: GUEST,The Smiler
Date: 12 May 10 - 12:10 PM

>>So what did the Lib Dems get for forming a coalition with the Tories?<<

Too much