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olddude - Losers

olddude 31 May 10 - 10:14 AM
catspaw49 31 May 10 - 10:55 AM
gnu 31 May 10 - 11:05 AM
olddude 31 May 10 - 11:06 AM
gnu 31 May 10 - 11:07 AM
olddude 31 May 10 - 11:38 AM
olddude 31 May 10 - 10:57 PM
Rapparee 31 May 10 - 11:13 PM
Bobert 01 Jun 10 - 08:05 AM
GUEST,BanjoRay 01 Jun 10 - 11:24 AM
Will Fly 01 Jun 10 - 11:31 AM
SINSULL 01 Jun 10 - 11:48 AM
olddude 01 Jun 10 - 02:01 PM
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Subject: olddude - Losers
From: olddude
Date: 31 May 10 - 10:14 AM

Doing a folk/blues set on the 12th ... lots of people .. gonna try this but it needs works .. any suggestions or just throw it out of the set ...I don't play this one much nor do I play much blues cause I am not good at it but love the sound of the blues ...

Dan
losers


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: catspaw49
Date: 31 May 10 - 10:55 AM

Sometimes I just wanna' kick your ass........oy.............You oughta' know by this time that folks like your stuff and those of us who comment will always feel free to do so because we like you too. I, on the other hand, am about to put you on my shit list if you don't stop apologizing for something before any of us hear it! How about I give an opinion before I listen to it? Would that make sense?

Dan good man......We like Dan.......We like Dan music.......We tell Dan anything we don't like...........Dan shut fuck up before Spaw kick Dan ass


Spaw


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: gnu
Date: 31 May 10 - 11:05 AM

Get to the point, Spaw.


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: olddude
Date: 31 May 10 - 11:06 AM

lol ... ok spaw you win lol   can't stop laughing


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: gnu
Date: 31 May 10 - 11:07 AM

Good stuff, Dan... and, as usual, I wil say... as usual.


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: olddude
Date: 31 May 10 - 11:38 AM

Thanks Gnu :-)
bit worried about this one since so many people know the song .. try to get it right but not imitate Dave since no one really can


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: olddude
Date: 31 May 10 - 10:57 PM

one exception DWDITTY is as good as anyone at Dave's guitar style and voice


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: Rapparee
Date: 31 May 10 - 11:13 PM

It's good. Quit yer worryin'.


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: Bobert
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 08:05 AM

Well, seems like we've had this converstaion before but this song is a quiet and somewhat introspective song but not a blues song but...

...I donno about opening with it... Unless this crowd is like one of them where you can hear a pin drop, which BTW ain't all that much fun to play to, I'd open with something more up-beat that moves a little quicker just to get folks in the mood... A song like this has it's place in any folks set but ya' can't build a set around these kinds of intropective songs...

I do a song somewhat like this that Blind Jefferson wrote entitle "One Kind Favor" ("Please keep my grave kept clean...") that is like "Loser" in that way and ya' kinda have to set it up in the middle of a set as a transitional ("tragic relief"...lol) song that has to be follwed with something that is more upbeat and hopefull...

BTW, sets are kinda fun to put together, Oldster... Might of fact there are some formulas and rules to putting them together... Rule 1: Don't begin or end with a "weepy" song... Rule 2: Don't use the same key in consecutive songs... Rule 3: If ya' have a weeper then put it in the middle of the last half and be sure to do a little intro (talking) before doing the song... Those are just fir starters...

Have a great time...

B~


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: GUEST,BanjoRay
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 11:24 AM

I've loved the blues and Van Ronk for many years. You do a fine version, but the only slight criticism I have is the gentleness of the guitar doesn't quite go with the harshness of the song - the notes are fine, just needs a little more power in some of them at critical points - make 'em zing a bit, and fit the power of what you're singing!

Good luck with it
Ray


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: Will Fly
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 11:31 AM

At Dan's request, I've done an internet "collaboration". He emailed me the mp3 of the song, and I've added some guitar before sending it back to him as a 2-track song. I've no doubt he'll be putting a link to this arrangement somewhere!

Interesting comment from Ray. I hadn't heard the song before Dan posted it. My added notes try to fit with Dan's version - whether they add "zing" or not, I really couldn't say! :-)


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: SINSULL
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 11:48 AM

I like it Dick. I give it a ten.

Hard G on Genghis Khan I believe but I may be wrong.

Stop apologizing for being talented Dan. This is a tough crowd and they will tell you the truth if not in the thread in a PM.

How's the newset member of the family, Baby Dominick?
SINS


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: olddude
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 02:01 PM

Sins,
he is adorable, thank God for internet skype. I would be a basket case for sure :-)

Great suggestions for sure. Jayto is always telling me I have to rough it up a bit when I try to do like a Van Ronk or Waits ... He is right for sure like you folks suggested

Folk is more my alley but I love playing the different minors and dim chords those guys use a lot .. fun ... Gotta post Will's version also. He added some guitar to my pickin ...

Thank you my friends


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: gnu
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 02:14 PM

I am waiting with bated breath.


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 02:40 PM

Having never heard the song, I had nothing to compare it to. But that don't mean my thinking it's great means nothing.

It's great and Floozies can dance to it.


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: olddude
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 02:42 PM

Will fly's guitar in BG


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: Will Fly
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 03:02 PM

Dan - you must rename this on Soundclick - it's certainly not my Losers. It's all yours, buddy, with just a little addition from me!


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: topical tom
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 03:13 PM

I've always liked that song and you do a good job on it too.Bravo!


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: gnu
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 03:58 PM

Great accompanyment!


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Subject: RE: olddude - Losers
From: GUEST,BanjoRay
Date: 02 Jun 10 - 08:03 AM

Will knew what I was talking about!
Sounds great guys.


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