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Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.

GUEST,Gareth 01 Jun 10 - 09:38 AM
Leadfingers 01 Jun 10 - 10:20 AM
nickp 01 Jun 10 - 10:23 AM
GUEST,leeneia 01 Jun 10 - 10:52 AM
GUEST 01 Jun 10 - 10:57 AM
greg stephens 01 Jun 10 - 11:17 AM
GUEST,leeneia 01 Jun 10 - 11:26 AM
Jeri 01 Jun 10 - 11:37 AM
SteveMansfield 01 Jun 10 - 01:10 PM
GUEST,nickp (cookieless) 01 Jun 10 - 02:10 PM
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open mike 01 Jun 10 - 03:18 PM
GUEST,Gareth 01 Jun 10 - 03:25 PM
GUEST,leeneia 01 Jun 10 - 03:37 PM
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Chris Partington 01 Jun 10 - 03:56 PM
GUEST,Gareth 01 Jun 10 - 04:04 PM
nickp 02 Jun 10 - 06:48 AM
greg stephens 02 Jun 10 - 07:31 AM
nickp 02 Jun 10 - 08:45 AM
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Subject: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: GUEST,Gareth
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 09:38 AM

Hello MudCat,

If you go to http://www.myspace.com/englishcontradanceband you'll see and hear a tune called "Help, Can you name that tune". We got it from the playing of Jackie Allen in the UK but have never found the name or composer. We have just finished recording a CD of dance length contra tunes which we can't complete without this tune name. I've tried everyone I know, nothing, so this is trying everyone I don't know. Frankly I'm prepared to offer a small half of a weak beer if someone could help, that's how desperate I am.

I've never posted to MudCat before so, if I've broken a convention or upset someone, get over it.

G
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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: Leadfingers
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 10:20 AM

Clicky


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: nickp
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 10:23 AM

Well Gareth, you've probably come to the best bunch of folks to ask.
Nick


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 10:52 AM

It says I'd have to log in to hear the tune. I don't wish to join Facebook.

Can you make the tune play for anybody who visits?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 10:57 AM

It's on MySpace, and as far as I know you don't have to join to play. Thanks for the clicky.

G


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: greg stephens
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 11:17 AM

Nicely played, can't identify the tune. Mudcat a bit slow today, people normally come up with answers quicker than this!


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 11:26 AM

I followed Leadfingers' link.

I found 'Can you name this tune?' and clicked on the plus sign.

It said 'You must be logged in to do that.'

Maybe if the unknown tune changes places with the Caribou Reel, which I can indeed hear...


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: Jeri
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 11:37 AM

Click on the tune "name". (Where it says "HELP. Can you name this tune?")


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 01:10 PM

Listened but don't know it. Sorry ...


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: GUEST,nickp (cookieless)
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 02:10 PM

Jackie got a lot of the tunes she played from the Portland Collection but I'm pretty sure Gareth & Linda have access to them. That may give a clue though.

Nick


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 02:12 PM

Thanks for that, we've got both Portland Collection books, they are great. We didn't get it from there, but it would be funny if that's where it is.

Off to the bookshelf.
G


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: open mike
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 03:18 PM

nice tune sounds modern,can't place it though..nice nosise you 2 make!


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: GUEST,Gareth
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 03:25 PM

Thanks, we like noise, good for dancin'. Still going through Portland and made connection with the Portland site.
G


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 03:37 PM

Now that the tune is the top one, I can play it. I agree with Open Mike that it sounds modern. Well, modern as opposed to a Playford dance from the 17th or 18th century, anyway.

If you don't get an answer, I suggest you give it one of those traditional names such as

Jackie's Favorite
Jackie's Delight
Jackie's Fancy or

if you want to sound Irish, just plain 'Jackie Allen's.'

I enjoyed listening to your playing.
========
I know a beautiful Welsh tune called 'Conset Argyllwth Treffael.' People insisted that 'Conset' didn't make any sense. Eventually I learned that is a Welsh-English form of 'conceit.' But I wouldn't suggest calling it Jackie's Conceit.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: GUEST
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 03:47 PM

Strangely, yesterday I was very moved by a Welsh dance display team at Chippenham Festival. They are called Dawnswyr Tipyn O Bopeth, big hats and beards and everything. I'm not usually a big fan of display dance but they did the slowest longways with such nodding and smiling. Sex on a stick. Better than the movie about a city.

G


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: Chris Partington
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 03:56 PM

Hi Gareth. Sorry, don't know the tune. Too new for me. ;-0


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: GUEST,Gareth
Date: 01 Jun 10 - 04:04 PM

New? I think Jackie got it from a cassette. How old is that?

G


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: nickp
Date: 02 Jun 10 - 06:48 AM

DOes she still have the cassette? There may be clues from any other tracks on it.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: greg stephens
Date: 02 Jun 10 - 07:31 AM

Of course, it depends how you play'em, but it seems American to me. And/or composed recently. But that may just be the style in which the syncopations are played.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: nickp
Date: 02 Jun 10 - 08:45 AM

I agree Greg, does seem to come from the recent Contra scene over there.

(more than one way of keeping a thread bubbling)


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jun 10 - 01:08 PM

The cassette's gone. Any other name ideas? Boat Band Reel....


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jun 10 - 02:46 PM

This tune is not in either of the Portland Collections. It sounds recent to me (or if not, at least an updated versions of an old tune). As long as you make a good effort to determine title and composer, as it appears you are doing, it will be OK to include it on a recording without that knowledge. The composer may well surface.

Susan Songer


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: GUEST,Peter Laban
Date: 02 Jun 10 - 02:55 PM

It doesn't appear Irish but you could try (just to be sure) and play it into the search engine at www.tunepal.org


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: GUEST
Date: 02 Jun 10 - 04:29 PM

Thanks for that, we've checked as much as possible. It would be great to know the composer, but for now, we're going to name it.

Ta
G


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss
Date: 03 Jun 10 - 04:41 AM

Just make sure you put (unknown) rather than (trad) after it and you should be ok.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Unknown Tune - Help please.
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Jun 10 - 05:19 PM

Thanks Tom, didn't know that.

G


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