Worst Movie ever

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 02:27 AM

Oh come on, everyone knows the answer to this. Only one film has ever won two golden turkey awards. Ed Wood's "Plan 9" aka "Graverobbers from Outer Space".

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: GUEST,Allan C
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 05:31 AM

"As a Scot, I'd have to say that, apart from most Hollywood remakes of European films, the worst film I've ever seen was "Braveheart""

Aye some of it is naff to say the least. I know folk moan about the historical inaccuracies with the likes of the blue face and the liason with the Princess but those don't bother me at all. The basis of the story is Blind Harry's poem or rather Hamilton's later version of Harry's poem - and the blue face is present in the poem as is the liason though it is with the English Queen rather than a Princess. Folk moan about the anti-Englishness though to be fair to the novel and film that aspect is actually toned down. A big gripe is often the Brigadoon tartan aspects of it. That part of the army raised by Wallace was raised in and largely operated in the southern and central Lowlands and the army would probably have not looked much different from any army raised in England so the Highlandism of the film really skews the picture. Though I suspect a modern audience in the large North American market would expect to see tartan on Scots so the film makers would give them what they expect.

One bit that irritates me is the pan-Celticism of it. In the film when the Irish army in the service of the English actually come face to face with Wallace's Scottish army - they throw down their weapons and they all hug each other in Celtic brotherhood - whilst Edward I whispers "bloody Irish" as an aside. In the poem though when Wallace catches up with the army of mixed Irish and Scottish Highlanders in the service of the English the outcome is rather different. As they are seen as kin the Highlanders are spared on condition that they join Wallace's army. On the other hand the Irish are massacred to the last man as they are seen as foreign invaders.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Acorn4
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 06:04 AM

On the other hand, you can play "spot the boxer shorts under the kilt" in Braveheart.

Historical accuracy more often than not goes out of the window. The classic case is "Cromwell", starring Richard Harris as the Protector, who came out with a string of quotations most of which were said by other people than Cromwell, and at least one was said by someone on the other side.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Stu
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 06:29 AM

I saw 2012 the other night.

Complete.Utter.Crap. x100

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: GUEST,CW
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 08:23 AM

Marley and Me
The Break Up

... but my worst ever ...

The Happening

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: GUEST,Patsy Warren
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 09:56 AM

Old dubbed Godzilla films but worth seeing for the comic value. The plot and storylines are hilarious and the effects so basic (men dressed in rubber monster suits). The one I got for my kids way back had Godzilla saving Tokyo from total destruction by some monsters from another planet. At the finish Godzilla wins and he heads back to Monster Island with a final wave before he goes. Can't remember what it was called though.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Lighter
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 02:41 PM

If you can stand to watch it all for any reason at all, it isn't the worst movie ever.

That's just common sense.

Go here for the "Bottom 100" as voted on by thousands of online critics:

http://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom

Glad to see that my three picks are conspicuous.

Note: no GWTW!

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: GUEST,AndyC
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 03:34 PM

This might be a controversial choice, but my most hated film is 'Billy Elliott'. Maybe not the worst ever but surely the most over-rated - poor acting, can't seem to decide whether it's supposed to be set in the 1970s or 1980s, and a ham-fisted and simplistic portrayal of English working people as a group of knuckle-draggers who are unable to appreciate any form of culture or want the best for their children.

I know from a newspaper article a few years ago that at least one well-known reviewer agrees with me.

Watch Brassed Off, the Full Monty or Kes instead...

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: GUEST,Allan C
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 03:45 PM

"re Billy Elliot - can't seem to decide whether it's supposed to be set in the 1970s or 1980s"

Set in the mid 80s during the miner's strike. The big brother is a big Marc Bolan fan hence the T.Rex 1970s sound track

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Hovering Bob
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 04:23 PM

I agree about 'Alice' a missed opportunity.
As for worst ever movies, either 'Matrix.' All that money on effects, shame they couldn't spare the price of a cup of coffee on a script writer!
BobH

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: maple_leaf_boy
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 07:47 PM

2012. I saw some of it, and will finish it soon. I like the part with
Charlie Frost.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 21 Jul 10 - 11:14 PM

I walked out on Amadeus. If Salieri was still alive, I would help him file a lawsuit for libel. This is fiction carried too far.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: ollaimh
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 12:36 PM

well nothing equals"they saved hitler's brain". with a cheesey privatedective style anouncer recordinghis search forhitlers brain.itbwasspiritedaway by nazi's for cloningandlater imlant.

the sets were so bad the camera occasionally verred off set and you could see the gaffers.   really reallyfunny.

the canadian film "revenge of the land" was also a howler. with every cliche about settling thepraries. the evil gran company, the evil railroads ,the plucky little farm boy and a child almost dying atthe climax so they are all forced to work together.again so bad it was funny.

i also hate those action films thathave the overpowering soundtracks so you know when to be excited, and nothingbutaction action action. dark knight--battman, awfull. inception--so predictable and "oh now we are goingdeeper thatanyman has gonebefore intothedream state" we never saw that comming. and the over powering music.

but nothing compRES TO THEY SAVED HITLERS BRAIN

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 01:18 PM

What is your reason for attending these class c-d movies?

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Lighter
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 01:37 PM

I haven't in years. It's cheaper and more interesting to take a nap.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: GUEST,erbert
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 01:39 PM

I'm genuinely looking for a watchable un-cut bootleg DVD
of Val Guest's long lost pile of shite

"Life is a Circus"

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051863/


no.. seriously...


I've only ever seen it once on an afternoon broadcast on UK TV
about 30 years ago;
probably the only chance anyone ever had to get a VHS copy..

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 01:44 PM

Pretty Woman - more-or-less encouraging such-like to prostitute themselves until they meet a filthy rich capitalist.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: bubblyrat
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 02:40 PM

I quite liked "McQ",as I admired Clu Gulager,if only for A) having such a weird name, and B) being totally unintelligible in every word he uttered. I thought perhaps JW's character was called "McHugh ", as in the song (" Follow Me Up To Carlow",so now we ARE a music thread !), and the title "McQ" was just being trendy ??Who knows ??
    Hope I haven't upset anyone re-"The Great Escape"......I know that there were,indeed,American POWs in that camp, but, crucially,they had all been transferred by the time of the "Escape" ( in which Steve McQueen rides a BRITISH motor-cycle, or so I believe !!).

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Lighter
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 04:01 PM

Literalism. A little more of it and there'd have been no Shakespeare.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: RangerSteve
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 04:04 PM

I saw "2001 - A Space Idiocy" twice when it first came out (it was in a theater on a Navy base and only cost me 50cents each time, but it's still a dollar that I'd like back), and I didn't get it. My older brother explained it to me, and I still didn't get it. Years later, a co-worker explained it to me, but I still didn't get it. Then I sat down and watched it on TV - the TCM channel - and, guess what? I still didn't get it. And since they've decided that Jupiter is probably composed of liquid gas, there's a good chance no one will be landing on it anytime soon, so it all seems kind of pointless now. It's on my private list of bad movies, but I'll respect anyone's right to consider it a classic, since so many people do. And don't try to explain it to me. When it comes time to die, I'll probably want that time back.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: lefthanded guitar
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 06:00 PM

Just saw the Queen.

pretty bad. But ANY Tom Hanks makes me want to gag.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Amergin
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 06:46 PM

Was Tom Hanks playing the Queen?

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Ref
Date: 22 Jul 10 - 09:07 PM

I think a bad film should be defined as one that does not live up to its promise. The C and D grade flicks are therefore beyond consideration, like today's "straight-to-video" losers. "2012", for example, is a bad film because of all the pretentious crap about Mayan prophecy and the promise of coherent special effects that didn't come close to panning out.

Let's be honest here. Songcatcher (with a nod to Mr. Don) is an appallingly bad film wrapped around a good soundtrack.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: DonMeixner
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 09:13 AM

"Second worst film is "The Great Escape", if only because,at the time of the real-life escape,there were NO AMERICAN prisoners in that particular camp--so just WHO was Steve McQueen supposed to have been, then ?? Eh ?? "

George harsh and Nick Nichols(The inspiration for Steve McQueens character in the film) would argue strongly with you. Nichols and Piglett Lamond actually perpetrated the Mole Escape as shown in the movie and George Harsh was in the X organization as the designer and head of the Ferret warning system.

Harsh had an early number in the escape list until it was discovered he had severe clasutrophobia.

Both men were members of the RAF, Nichols was an American Eagle but both men were decidedly American and both were involved in the escape plan. Whether or not they went up the tunnel is Hollywood selling a film and inconsequential to the actual history and the brilliance of the effort.

You still don't have to like the movie but........

Don

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: maple_leaf_boy
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 12:30 PM

2012 wasn't as good as I expected it to be. I think that a great
movie would have to be Gran Torino. I really liked that movie.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: maple_leaf_boy
Date: 23 Jul 10 - 05:48 PM

Here's a Mel Gibson parody, that pokes fun at his anti-semetism and
Braveheart.

Mel Gibson Parody

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: LadyJean
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 12:20 AM

In my youth, I saw a western called "Run Home Slow", which makes me wish with every fiber of my being that I didn't have such a good memory. There are no sympathetic characters. There is nothing to like about it, just grim and gloom.

In college I saw a movie about Edward Munch, two and a half hours about people dying of tuberculosis, in Norwegian. Yunga shunga smunga hunga, coff coff coff! I would have enjoyed missing that one too.

Then there was the French film called "Lancelot" with the knights of the round table in period costumes, and the peasants in modern clothes. Ok, it wasn't a great film. But I had a friend in college who was a confirmed movie talker, and it was the first movie in MONTHS I'd seen without her. I enjoyed it immensely for that reason alone.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: beeliner
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 12:52 AM

Gone With the Wind...is supposed to be an all time great mind blowing epic but it left me wondering why I wasted 2 hours (or it seemed like that) sitting through it...

GWTW was a lot longer than two hours - if it seemed like two hours to you you might have enjoyed it more than you are letting on!

Before it was licensed for TV, GWTW used to be re-released to theatres every five years or so and I resisted seeing it for a long time, thinking that it was probably a good film, but it couldn't be THAT good.

Eventually I saw it - it was THAT good plus, and of course I've seen it several times since on TV.

Is ANYONE in GWTW other than Ann Rutherford still living?

My own personal worst - Dune. Excruciating. I have no doubt that it has a loyal circle of fans.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: DonMeixner
Date: 24 Jul 10 - 01:07 AM

Ah "Dune". That was pretty poor wasn't it. It didn't go bad from the start tho'. I think it went south about half way through when they realized it was a bigger book than the time frame allowed. I like the Redux better when Sci Fi television ran a European version of the book over several days.

Don

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: J-boy
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 12:31 AM

Guys you haven't suffered until you've seen that Kevin Costner piece of crap "Message in a Bottle." Tami (ranger1) dragged me to that movie only because much of it was shot in her hometown of New Harbor,Me. But it was kind of fun to hear her exclaim "I know the guy who owns that lobsterboat!"

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Amergin
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 01:18 AM

Any movie with Nicholas Cage in it.....he can turn a great movie into a poor one in nothing flat....watched 8mm last night and with anyone else it would have been so much better....

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: J-boy
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 01:34 AM

He's good in "Leaving Las Vegas" and "Honeymoon in Vegas." Perhaps he should stick to movies with Vegas in the title.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: J-boy
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 01:41 AM

"Raising Arizona" didn't suck,though.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Amergin
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 02:10 AM

I think Raising Arizona was his peak....

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: GUEST,DonMeixner
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 02:24 AM

Nah, Con Air was Cages peak. "Give me the bunny!"

Don

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 02:48 AM

Dinner for Schmucks was painful. Dusk 'til Dawn shows just how bad Tarentino can be. How about Van Helsing?

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 10:13 AM

"Objective, Burma! is an Oscar-nominated 1945 war film which depicts American paratroopers fighting extensively in the Burma Campaign during the Second World War. The picture, made by Warner Brothers, was directed by Raoul Walsh and starred Errol Flynn." ~ Wikipedia
===
Churchill objected so strongly to this film, which didn't even mention British involvement though the Burma campaign was in fact an entirely British & Commonwealth operation, with no, or in any event most minimal, US participation, that it was withdrawn from exhibition. I recall a critic at the time saying that it was, in itself, quite a good piece of action cinema, but going on to speculate as to what the American public might have thought of a British film purporting to show David Niven at the head of the 51st Highland Division capturing the Philippines.

~Michael~

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: goatfell
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 10:17 AM

any film with Jim Carrey in it

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: GUEST,Jon
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 10:58 AM

Anything with Sylvester Stallone in.

And for butchering decent originals, The Lady Vanishes (1979), The Italian Job (2003) and Village of The Damned (1995)

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 12:35 PM

Well, MtheGM, I don't think historical or factual accuracy has ever been a prerequisite for a good movie. How about the recent movie with Matthew McConaughy where an American ship captures a Nazi U-boat and gets the Enigma Code Machine? Brazen Americanization of a British event.
I want to see The Last Airbender because it has already attained classic Awful Movie status, while still in first release. What happened to M Night Shyamalan??

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: GUEST,DonMeixner
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 03:08 PM

"U-boat and gets the Enigma Code Machine? Brazen Americanization of a British event."

There were several Enigma machines captured by the allies in WWII. The first by the British and subsequent code boxes were captured by others. Including one aboard U-505 an intact German U-boat captured afloat by a group of Americans. At the end of the movie there is a epilogue which documents the captures of the devices and who made them and in which order they were made.

Watching the movie for what it was, two hours of action and entertainment, I was entertained.

Don

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: GUEST,DonMeixner
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 04:00 PM

Mthe GM

"Merrill's Marauders or Unit Galahad, officially named the 5307th Composite Unit (provisional), was a United States long range penetration special operations unit in the South-East Asian Theater of World War II which fought in the Burma Campaign. The unit became famous for its deep-penetration missions behind Japanese lines, often engaging Japanese forces superior in number."

It has been my understanding for years that Objective Burma was a film about a force based upon Merrill's Marauders. This quote is from Wikipedia and the description I read there with location maps clearly shows Merrill's men as a force in Burma.

History is too often bent to create heroes where none existed but credit where credit is due. American forces fought in Burma, American pilots fighting for Great Britain took part in The Great Escape, and American sailors captured an enigma machine. They didn't win the war by themselves as some folks would have us all think but they did do some stuff right, now and then.

D

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 08:09 PM

Well, then, I stand corrected and hoorah for us Yanks! Thanks, Don.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 08:20 PM

Most people also fail to appreciate the part chimps played in achieving Allied victory. That will change after Chongo gets elected.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Little Hawk
Date: 15 Jan 11 - 08:56 PM

Say, I just watched Sylvester Stallone's 1986 movie "Cobra" for the first time. It is awe inspiringly dumb...and gloriously right wing (complete with bleeding heart liberal cop bosses, newsmen, and judges who are soft on criminals and get in the way of justice being done. Stallone punches the main one in the gut at the end of the movie)...but it's a fun way of getting in some totally mindless entertainment for an hour and a bit and Stallone was lookin' sharp in '86, man! The body count is pretty astounding in this one. The death-dealing is spectacular. The bad guys are soooo bad that it's just, well, beyond describing. Chongo would LOVE it! I have to tell him about this movie, in case he hasn't seen it yet.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: CheshireCat
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 10:11 AM

Over the years I've seen Sherlock Holmes portrayed by many fine and not so fine actors, using brilliant and not so brilliant scripts. I've seen him set in 1930s New York (by which time, as we all know, he was keeping bees on the Sussex Downs) and read stories where he was an alien, a robot, Moriarty with a delusional split personality, and enjoyed most of them. But the time I'd really like back is the time I spent watching Robert Downey Jr.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: GUEST,Doc John
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 02:34 PM

Yes, Tim Burton's Alice is the usual brash loud mixture of the two Alice books. They're always the same - a superb cast and a dreadful film. Has anyone ever made a good Alice film, I wonder?
It's probably near impossible to name the worst movie ever made as some black and white, badly acted, badly directed, badly written, long forgotten B movie would probably claim this title.
There's a film I read about recently which is so bad it's aquired cult status but, damn it, can't recall its title.
The most overrateed films are easier: The Muppets' Christmas Carol, The Searchers and Death in Venice.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: BrooklynJay
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 02:55 PM

The Robert Downey Jr. Sherlock Holmes was a major disappointment. Worst film ever? I don't know if I'd go that far; in one of my other "lives" I've been a Sherlockian (or Holmesian) for 25 years and you wouldn't believe the absolute drek that's been put out there...

But my candidate for worst film of all time? Simple. A truly abominable film that nobody has yet mentioned:

The Beast of Yucca Flats.

Believe me, no other film comes close. This one almost cost me my marriage. I had heard about it for years, and how awful it was, so I thought I'd catch up with it years ago when the opportunity presented itself. Unwatchable garbage! The film was made around 1961 and "starred" Tor Johnson(!). It also proved to be his swan song in cinema. What can you say about a film that destroyed the "career" of Tor Johnson??? It ran a few minutes less than one hour but seemed like it went on forever. Abysmally bad would be an understatement. I forced myself to watch the whole thing just so I could say I lived through it and would never, ever sit through it again, even if they ripped out my fingernails. My wife gave up after around forty minutes. She got up from the sofa, shaking her head, saying, "I can't take any more of this!" The "director" was a man named Coleman Francis. Remember that name. Avoid it like the plague.

You have been warned.

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 03:11 PM

Odd that nobody has mentioned that great classic, D W Griffith's Birth Of A Nation. Oh, yes, I know; the seminal movie, first example of modern cinema from which all others flow. A great pioneering work.

Have you seen it? In case you didn't know, it is all about how the KKK saved the South when the blacks were getting uppity after the Civil War ruined their owners and brought them freedom which they weren't fit for...

The film, its place in cinema history, & the controversy involving it, are well summarised in an excellent Wikipedia entry.

~Michael~

Subject: RE: Worst Movie ever
From: Taconicus
Date: 16 Jan 11 - 03:16 PM

Just one of a long list of well-crafted one-sided, emotionalistic, manipulative propaganda films, including Triumph of the Will and many recent ones, including (one of many examples) The Yes Men Fix the World.