Favorite pubs - tell us about yours

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: GUEST,Lavengro
Date: 04 Apr 13 - 08:30 AM

The Rompney Castle,Cardiff, WALES:

I have often heard people say things along the lines of "A church is not the building, it's the people inside". The Rompney is a fantastic old stone building with twisted chimneys and real ales etc. etc. But it is the people inside it that makes the place what it is.

The landlords have come and gone over the years but the locals are a fantastic mix of ages and political persuasions with varied senses of humour where absolutely no one is safe from a well thought barb that will leave everyone in stitches. It is a place where literally everyone is made welcome and there is none of the "sizing up" of unfamiliar faces many other places suffer from.

No food (but we all bring our own in on birthdays, rugby internationals etc.), no music (in the lounge) but neither is a problem. If me and my family want music or food we go elsewhere anyways.

My favourite pub, will be there in a few hours!!!

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Joe_F
Date: 03 Apr 13 - 02:26 PM

This company particularly deserves mention of The Skellig in Waltham, MA, which hosts informal singing groups of various kinds, including a general pub sing in the back room, which I attend every month. Good food, and quite a variety of booze.

Doyle's, in Jamaica Plain (Boston, MA) is a venerable establishment with traditional decor (oak paneling, embossed sheet-metal ceilings, hexagonal tiles in the restrooms). It is much bigger (expanded some years ago) and not so musical, but does have a couple of Revels sings every year.

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: GUEST
Date: 03 Apr 13 - 11:52 AM

Hi Folks,

surry but I have a sad message fore you. Uli Panknin died 22.03.2013 after long disease. Contact Irish Rover, Hamburg.

Jurgen

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: roopoo
Date: 13 Oct 99 - 01:44 PM

I'll be there, and try to get a bit earlier than normal. (Stargate will have to be watched another time). Who else is going?

mouldy

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: selby
Date: 13 Oct 99 - 01:38 PM

We are at the JUG tonight so thats 2 more it's going to be a bit full.

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Ian Stephenson
Date: 13 Oct 99 - 08:28 AM

Mouldy, Windy B, Sam Pirt, Bill/sables, Mick
Whos going down to the jug tonight?
Good choices, Sam. Fagans rocks.
Cheers, Locals.
We should start our own thread!
Ian

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: roopoo
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 05:38 PM

Don't forget the summer wear on wednesday, all ye who will be at the Jug: the heating is on and Val has stoked up the fire. After all, it IS October!

mouldy

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Sam Pirt
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 12:55 PM

I am afraid that I have 2 favorite pubs (which probably makes me an alcholic, but never mind) 1 is 'The Jug' In chappel Hadelsy and my second is 'Fagans' in Sheffield that serves a mean Guinness.

Cheers, Sam

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: windyb
Date: 11 Oct 99 - 11:41 AM

I thought I had better join in this discussion, as I too go to the famous jug , usually in disguise !! Greetings from windyb and my equally famous green medodeon c u wednesday

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Ely
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 09:49 PM

McGonigel's Mucky Duck in Houston. Never fails but you meet all kinds of great people. They also treat their musicians well--all of the cover charge goes to the musicians (and the place is invariably standing-room-only, so the cover charge money is good pay).

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: ericsymonds
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 07:14 PM

Thanks for the reminder that you provided the funny line that was top knotch on the night, Never in the field of human entertainment was so little delivered to so few(Winston would be proud of me!) I wonder if Bill's phone is switched on,Keith. Cheers gareth.

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Magpie
Date: 10 Oct 99 - 05:22 PM

Mine is The Dubliner Folk Pub in Oslo where I live. Well, I don't live in the pub, but...

I first went there after being recommended it by my dad, and I instantly felt at home there. They have live Irish music every weekend, and I started going to hear the bands. After a while, I was tole there were sessions there on Saturdays, and I started going. Mind you, it took me almost a year to muster up the courage to join in! I've heard people say that some places' sessions are very "closed", that it's difficult getting into them, but I was warmly welcomed on my first day, and I've kept going ever since.

There I've made friends, there I found my band, there I've cried on good friends' shoulders, and there I've celebrated. I like it!!

Magpie

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: roopoo
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 10:37 PM

Hey Selby, I liked the way security lights can illuminate the action! Actually, a little word crept into my head when I first saw it: Clochemerle! Can you remember the "good old days" at the Jug before it had inside bogs built? I tell you, it wasn't the gents who had the problems then!You try dropping 'em in sub-zero temperatures! You could always tell when one of the girls was about to leave the room, because the flushed face and pained expression grew more intense. We just kept telling ourselves that there weren't many of these unspoilt country pubs left, especially those where you had to cross the car park in the rain first! (It's a small car park). Ooops. getting lavatorial again.

mouldy

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: DougR
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 01:47 PM

If you ever find yourself in Phoenix, Arizona you will want to look in on two pubs located here. Seamus McCaffreys'Pub and Restaurant in downtown Phoenix, and the Dubliner in NE Phoenix. Seamus opened the Dubliner, which is the one I frequent most often because it is less than a mile from my home, about ten years ago. It has gone through several changes of ownership over the years and the service and music has varied with the changes. I really long for the "old days" when Tom and Marie Teven, an excellent Celtic duo entertained there regularly and the place had a "Cheers" ring to it. Everybody knew everybody else. It's changed now and serves a much younger crowd than in the old days. There is live music Thursday through Saturday at the Dubliner and the same for Seamus'place downtown. At the Dubliner regular enterainers are Tony Cummings and a variety of local groups. Tony is based in San Diego. Bill Craig, a very fine Canadian folksinger, usually does a few weekends out of the year and he always brings back the old regulars. On those rare occasions when Tom and Marie Teven return for a gig, the place is packed. In addition to music, the Dubliner has a bank of dart machines that usually stay pretty busy. The food served at Seamus McCaffrey's is very good. Both pubs always have an ample suppy of Guinness.

DougR

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: T in Oklahoma(Okiemockbird)
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 01:36 PM

The Deacon Brodie in Edinbro'.

My favorite close-to-home pub is the Bricktown Brewery in Oklahoma City, with its Copperhead Ale and Bison Weisen

T.

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: selby
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 01:27 PM

I know that your not Bills Dad because the way you look after him you have to be his MOTHER!!!!!!!!!! Thought for the day "if at a festival and gentlemen are having to use a metal trough as a urinal don't use it in a thunder storm" Keith

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: roopoo
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 06:22 AM

Don't bother with money: go for the mandola!

mouldy

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: ericsymonds
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 04:28 AM

Many are the happy nights I have spent in the Jug,some I remember, some I do not.Listening to music through a cloud of Bills smoke,planning(ha,ha,)for wet windy bot.but I live in Gosforth (all fur coat and nee nickers)were the chips are took home in fiddle cases,but when I'm not in toon,I have to admit Yorkshire's one of my favourite places.If Sam tells you I'm Bills dad it isn't funny.I'd sue the bugger,if he had any money.

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 12:47 AM

Bill, I thought YOU were the old "White Haired Bugger"!
Love.

Rick and Heather

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: roopoo
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 12:43 AM

When will "gareth" next be in the Jug? At this rate we'll soon need to use toes as well as fingers when counting up the 'Catters on a Wednesday night. Mouldy

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: bill\sables
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 06:56 PM

If you want to know who garath is you will find him in my photos on bbc,s album. He is the old white haired bugger on the left in my band. Actually he is realy my father. And if you don't beleave me ask Sam Pirt, Cheers Bill

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Tincap
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 06:19 PM

Jack... if you are going to Toronto - try McVie's (sp?) Irish Pub on the corner of Jarvis and King. Great live music on weekends.

As for my favourite. It no longer exists but it was the Buffalo Paddock in Banff. Nothing special except that it was there that I first heard good live folk music and it was sort of a turning point for me muscially. After that evening, the music of people like John Prine and Emmy Lou took over my record collection from Nazareth and Deep Purple.

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Mían
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 06:00 PM

Not really a pub frequenter nor have I ventured much beyond the Pacific Northwest. My favorites so far are in San Francisco: Kate Ó Brien's, The Plough and Stars, The Irish Bank, Dirty Nellie's, Molly Malone's and jeez what's the name of that little pub over there by the Cannery on Fisherman's Wharf.

And are we still waiting for the story of the Fenian Pub? Is Big Mick holding out for us to buy him a Pint of the Black first before he lets loose the sceal?

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: ericsymonds
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 05:28 PM

I am surprised Bill Sables waxes so about the Jug,nice as it is, but I am sure that his roots are to be found in the 'Kings Head'were for several years he hosted the Tuesday night Folk club in the 60's.Sadly the 'Head' has gone but not the many creatures he inspired to make music and laughter.Good on yer Bill and love to Lorna(platonic of course!).

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: selby
Date: 16 Sep 99 - 01:00 PM

I was in the JUG INN last night & I didn't see no big Mick

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 15 Sep 99 - 05:32 PM

Sorry I'm late - I've recently come back from a visit to the Scotia Bar in Glasgow (and other places in Scotland) and am only now catching up on the longer threads you've come up with in the last six weeks.
The Scotia is indeed a great place. I particularly liked the night a couple of years ago when I turned up in the snug, found a few familiar faces and was greeted - 'Haven't seen you for a while. What've you been doing wi' yersel'?' To which I could only reply - 'Yes, it's been about a year. I had to go back home, earning money for my holidays.'
My other favourite pub is in Hamburg, Germany. It used to be 'Die Zwiebel', right on the quay in Altona, a dark, dingy and very homely place. It's still there, but turned into an Irish 'theme pub' and, no doubt, given a thorough scrubbing. The guy who ran it and who was its heart and soul, Uli Panknin, got another pub, called it 'The Onion' and carries on as before. I'm glad to say that most of his regulars followed him to the new venue. It's like an extended family! He normally closes on Sundays, but about once a month he opens for a folk gig. (Well, sometimes it's blues or boogie or whatever takes their fancy.) The next few months we're having Brian McNeill & Iain MacKintosh, Allan Taylor, Mike Silver and Roger Sutcliffe. A few months back we had Australian lady Ronnie Taheny and Vince Weber, Germany's leading boogie piano player. Iain MacKintosh and Hamish Imlach even recorded a live album there twelve years ago - in the old place, of course.
If you ever find yourself in Hamburg, this is the place to go. John James (the Welsh guitarist about whom there was another thread not long ago) once described Uli as 'looking like the last relic of the summer of love, the ultimate hippie'. He's right! - Susanne

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: LaurJ and Shay
Date: 30 Aug 99 - 10:42 PM

Hey PJ - I'll come by a Sunday soon and look you up. It would be great to meet another local 'Catter.

Shay just found the 'Cat through a link with Strawberry festival.

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Big Mick
Date: 30 Aug 99 - 08:51 AM

PJ, what a great post on what sounds like a marvellous pub. Never fear, I shall make it there at some point. Any pub named after the flag carried by one of my heroes, .........well, I just have to get there. And El Swanno goes there, eh? Well I will just have to get to this pub. And tell Shay that I haven't forgotten his bloody CD (hahahahahaha), I just have to get time to sit down and mail him and Francis one. I will though.

Hang with me, friends. I am in the last four days before a Union representation election and am buried just now. I will post the story of the Fenian Pub when I get back. I just wanted to scan the threads before heading out for another very long day.

All the best,

Big Mick

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: pj
Date: 30 Aug 99 - 05:17 AM

More notes from the Starry Plough in Berkeley...

It's 1:30 a.m. here, and I just returned from the Sunday night session at the Plough. While it was fresh on my mind I wanted to send these messages along:

BIG MICK:

Shay sends you his best. We closed the place down tonight, the crowd dwindled to just 6 of us around the table by about midnight(kinda like in the Mudcat Pub, only without the jello and velcro).

It was 2 great fiddlers, a new guitar player, a veteran mandolin/guitarist, Shay and me. We played and sang long after the crowd went home, as the crew cleaned up around us. Shay talked about the tour he just returned from, and how much he enjoyed meeting you.

He had great stories about how impressed he was with Elderly Instruments, and he was particularly tickled that he was able to stump you with a CD request, since according to him you have absolutely everything. (By the way, this Canadian band he asked you for, can you order the CD? They really sound great.)

Shay asked me to let you know that his 85 year old mother just recorded an album, cutting 15 tracks in 15 hours. A typical Black Family over-achiever, I say. He assures me that when it's finished (it still needs a bit of work) he'll let us know how to get hold of it.

He said you took good care of them and he sends his very best. So when are you coming to stay with us and go to a Sunday night session?

LARJ:

It's nice to meet another 'Catter who's local! The atmosphere on Sunday is a bit different from Monday nights, it's true. But I can tell you as somewhat of a newcomer (about 6 months) at the Plough, I've been made to feel welcomed by the session musicians. I like the fact that the crowd (and the players) show absolutely no distinction in enthusiastic support for anyone who'll get up their nerve to sing or play, whether they're a newcomer or a pro. I'm also constantly amazed with the quality of musicianship among the folks in the session. It's a chance for beginners to cut their teeth around some incredible musical influences each week.

Shay has the reputation for running a tight ship, it's true. But I think that's the reason so many wonderful singers and musicians want to do sets here, it creates an atmosphere where the audience really listens and the singers feel appreciated.

I loved coming to Sunday nights when I was part of the audience, and I love it as a participant as well. Come see us again sometime for a session-- You'll be able to pick Dave, Seed and me out of the crowd: look for a tall, silver-haired banjo player with a GREAT smile (seed), a tall tenor with gorgeous blue eyes and an UNREASONABLY large moustache (Dave), and a blonde bodhran player annoying the real musicians at the session table (me). I'll buy the beer!

DAN EVERGREEN:

Dave and I found a pub in Atlanta the last time we were there called Fado (Irish for "long ago"). It's in the Buckhead section of town, trendy but very interesting. We liked it so much we got on their newsletter mailing list, and recently saw that they have started regular Irish music sessions.

We're going back for a visit again next month, (my folks live there) so we'll update you on how it measures up.

Hey, does anyone know of any other good pubs in the Atlanta area? Especially ones with music, of course.

pj

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: LaurJ
Date: 27 Aug 99 - 01:16 AM

Jack: re Toronto Unfortunately I haven't been there, but the following URL http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/7088/events.html is to a Toronto Celtic music site, which I found through the Celtic Music in North America: http://www.ceolas.org/events/events-na.html Perhaps it'll a start, if no one responds with better. Let us know what you found!

re: SF Bay Area & the Starry Plough I've been dancing on Monday nights at the Starry Plough (on and off) since '82. The place itself is quite unique and appropriately eclectic. The wonderful irony is that Shay and (part owner?) Frances are about the only Irish who come by.

Some folks come to dance, some to jam, some to play chess, locals to talk - some to watch the dancers others to ignore them. The age range and backgrounds vary so much that anyone feels welcome and unique at the same time. It's a matter of jump in and do as you wish (it's Berkeley after all).

Singing and session on Sunday - of late with Shay, and Brian, a fine fiddler with Cape Breton accent - plus many others. Everyone is truly welcome to sing or play or both, although Shay asks that it be "in the tradition" meaning not one's own song. He also doesn't say which tradition: We've heard some great songs (Finnish, French, Israeli among others) as visitors share, but most tend to be Celtic, with many from the British Isles, or N. America.

Mondays are Irish dancing (and jam) with lessons at 7:00, open dance somewhere around 9:00 or 9:30, and general session (music too fast and dancers generally too tired) sometime around 10:30 until the last musicians leave (often about 1:00 or 2:00). A great Bay Area dance and music enthusiast, Terry O'Neil, died suddenly last December. He was responsible for many of the Irish, Morris and Irish dancers in the area. I pass this on in case any of you knew him, but haven't yet heard.

When I first returned to the Bay Area from the Twin Cities (MN), I ventured from the safe suburb to the border flats between Berkeley and Oakland. At that time, only my forced withdrawal from music pushed me into the neighborhood (which is now safer) and into the Plough. I was immediately assaulted by the political posters and the eclectic clientele. Then, a gregarious 6-ft redhead approached. The next thing I knew I was doing 3's and 7's to the music, making plans for morris, contra, Scandi, English, shanties . . . back in the mainline - and Terry knew it all. After the dancing, I got to talk to the non-dancers. They're patient gems and worthy of a stop without the music.

Both the Sunday and Monday sessions are great experience for newer musicians because there are enough other musicians (usually) and they are inclusive.

The Plough & the stars in SF is a find place for traditional music all nights of the week and a fine place to hang out in an acoustic Irish atmosphere. The session on Sundays, to my mind however, is a bit snobby - but the music is great.

One of my favorite musical pastimes is the Shanty Sing on first Saturday evening of the month at Hyde Street Pier in San Francisco (usually aboard the Balclutha). Should anyone be in town that night, stop by, then wrap it up with an Irish coffee (or other drink of choice) at the Buena Vista, a block away.

For Irish style hangout, and not necessarily music (but sometimes there is), I like O'Reillys on Green Street just above (West in this case) Columbus. Small enough to be cozy, large enough to usually find some place to hide when one wants (and come early enough);friendly folks - mostly local (North Beach) with enough travellers and visitors to keep it fun & interesting, bartenders with great memories and good personalities. A long bar; overflow with tables onto the sidewalk for the Mediterranean feel (if the fog's lifted!) Needless to say: good beers on tap and full bar.

Back to Berkeley: On other nights, The Plough has an open mike (either Tues or Wed), and generally hosts upcoming bands of the area on the other nights. Many then go on to bigger locales after playing at the plough and elsewhere - and some never get much further. Although I haven't been much on other nights, it's usually electric, and I won't even attempt to categorize the music.

Hope this isn't too long.

RFC: Does anyone know of any good places in: Vancouver (BC), Seattle, or (don't laugh) Salt Lake City.

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Curtis & Loretta
Date: 26 Aug 99 - 01:01 PM

Grand Mantel Saloon in St. Cloud, Minnesota. Anyone else remember that place? It's been gone for years, but it was a great place to hear folk music in the seventies, and maybe before. I heard Jericho Harp there, who have since broken up, along with many other great groups. We even had the honor of playing there a couple times, before it was sold and became a pub without live music. Also lived on the free popcorn while I was going to college.

Loretta

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Cara
Date: 26 Aug 99 - 09:55 AM

Hmmm, this is te second time in one day I've been geographically vague. Sorry.

They're both in Washington, DC.

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: M
Date: 25 Aug 99 - 06:20 PM

Cara, where are these pubs?

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Cara
Date: 25 Aug 99 - 04:55 PM

I should say that my favorite pub is the one I used to work at, Murphy's, but I don't know if that's tue. For me, it's great, because I know everyone there, including the entertainers. But, I'm not sure how enjoyable it would be for someone just passing through (depending on who's playing). Truthfully, it can be just too damn bright in there. But with the right mix of people singing along, and no requests for the "Unicorn Song", it can be great fun for everyone. (It's always great fun for me..."Sometimes you wanna go where everybody knows your name" and whatnot). And it stands alone as one of the few drinking establishments that I can go alone and not be bothered. That's priceless.

The pub I tell people to go to if they're looking for a good time is Nanny O'Brien's. That's the one that the Irish expats go to when they're looking for a bit of home. It's great in there; all dark, and covered with Irish road signs and mementoes of famous folk who have passed through. The great majority of their regular musicians are superb too. They used to have trad sessions in the back room, but I think it might just be a Sundays in winter thing. Same with set dancing. And of course, they pour a good pint. So good I may have to have one this evening in fact....

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 24 Aug 99 - 01:28 AM

OK Bill, how about next week? Jack, The Tranzac is closed for a couple of weeks. Try the Madison, on Madison ave. in downtown Toronto.

Rick

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: bill\sables
Date: 23 Aug 99 - 06:09 PM

Big Mick And Rick, I was in the Jug tonight for a meal and all was quiet Even the landlord and landlady along with all the customers have gone to Whitby Folk Festival so not to be outdone I am going there tomorrow, so dont come over this Wednesday we will all be at Whitby Cheers Bill

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Jack (who is called Jack)
Date: 23 Aug 99 - 12:47 PM

I'm going to Toronto in a few days, any good pubs or folk music spots to try?

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Big Mick
Date: 20 Aug 99 - 11:42 PM

Rick,
The Jug is a must based on what I read. And wouldn't it be grand if the two of us could give it a whirl? And Bill, bring your wallet, because I believe I could handle the grill, with enough pints. LOL Great post!

Mick

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Mandochop
Date: 20 Aug 99 - 10:14 PM

Hey All Lets not leave out Mulhaney's Harp and Fiddle in the strip district of Pittsburgh, PA. There are seisiuns there every Sunday afternoon and ceillidhs every tuesday night. Mulhaney's great just because it's the only good traditional pub in Pgh, but as far as pubs go, I think it has quite a bit of character. The walls are covered with signs directing the way to Sligo and to Westport and with old vintage parlor guitars and fiddles. The Yeats poem "Th Fiddler of Dooney is framed in the entranceway. Half the pub is a restaurant in front of the stage and he other half is the bar. On a Tuesday evening in the winter you can go back and forth between Bruce Foley (former member of the Irish Tradition) and members of the local band Hooley blasting reel sets out for the dancers, and the cadre of (the incomparable) Pittsburgh sports fans watching the Penguins game at the bar. All in all, Mulhaney's is just a great atmosphere and if you're ever in Pittsburgh, be sure to stop by. Rob

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: John Nolan
Date: 20 Aug 99 - 08:55 PM

Celtic End Singer: I have to agree about the Scotia Bar, but there was one drawback, when I drank there. The ceiling was laced with strands of burglar alarm wire on which had gathered, over the decades, thick lines of dust. When the wrestling club met in the rooms above the bar, the thud of bodies hitting the floor produced a constant drizzle of grime from the wires, and so while people sang they had to keep their hands over their pints. Folks who played, had to have a beer mat sitting on top of their glasses. Plus you needed wellies to go to the pissoir. Just like Barry Finn's recollection of the Village Coach house, though, there was (is?) a constant stream of musical talent. Among my favorite times were when Big Mick Broderick (Whistlebinkies) was doing his submarine stories, and using two beer glasses and the back room pole as a periscope!

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Dave Swan
Date: 20 Aug 99 - 08:43 PM

The Falkland Arms, Great Tew. P.J. and I stayed there on our honeymoon and I had to be forcibly removed. There was a local brewer's festival underway, hosted by the Arms. Beer was delivered in quarter kegs, so the turnover of product was rapid and it was necessary to drink like a fish to keep up. New flavors seemed to spring up about every half hour. Hook Norton Brewery is just a few miles away, so all of their goodies were available. There are four wee rooms upstairs, just beneath the thatched roof, and when P.J. and I retired it was as if we had never left the party. We could hear people ordering and glasses hitting the bar top. Just great. Slate floors, Cotswold sandstone, sixteenth century architecture. The best. In a sad bit of juxtaposition a television was moved into the breakfast room the next morning and staff and guests sat over cooling breakfasts as we watched Princess Diana's funeral procession wend its way through London. E.S.

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 20 Aug 99 - 08:18 PM

Wow these sound great!! Hey Mick. So far the one that's really got the adrenalin goin' for me is the "Jug Inn" near Selby. I wanna go. And soon! And of course we treated Bill so well he's bound to stand us a few pints! Oh yes, as I said, whenever I've toured "the Isles" I drink like a fish. It's only here that I'm a teetotaler. I'm six foot so I'll watch my head, but you might be decapitated. Sounds like the music's pretty varied, but since the "orchestra" plays on everything, we better keep it simple.

Keep these goin' folks. I think this is going to be a hugely valuable thread. Even more so than "Hiroshi" and "condoms"!

Rick (wanting to fly over on the Concorde tonight, if it stops in Selby)

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: paddymac
Date: 20 Aug 99 - 05:42 PM

Dan Evergreen: in re dearth of southeastern pubs. If you happen to be in Tallahassee, on a first saturday or a third friday, check out "The Warehouse" on west gaines St. The first sat seisiun has been great, but is seen by some to be suffering through a bit of over- organization at the moment. Primarily trad, but occasional singers. It used to be beginner-friendly, but is presently geared towards more accomplished players. If your interest is a good pint and good chat, it's the place to be. Usually gets rolling good about half seven and runs till after twelve. Closing time is 2 a.m., but sometimes it takes awhile to "sweep up." The third friday seisiun is less intimidating for beginners. But still great music and chat.

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: bill\sables
Date: 20 Aug 99 - 04:46 PM

I Feel I must tell you about the "Jug Inn" Chapel Hadlesea North Yorkshire Just off the M62 near Selby The bar and the lounge are smaller than the average room in a normal house. If you are 5 foot 10 you will probably hit your head on one of the hundreds of jugs hanging from the low ceiling, but If you want a giant meal at very reasonable prices this is the place to be, (Try a Desperate Dan Pie) My advice is not to get the large mixed grill, you won't finish it unless there about six others to share it with. The ales sold are of the real ale type with a number of guest ales always on hand ( The Jug won CAMERA real ale pub award last year) But the highlight of the week is on Wednesday nights when a group of music makers get into the lounge and play from about 8-30 till closing time approx. 11-30 ish It is not a folk club more of a musicians session but expect anything from Beatles to O'Carolin The session is very friendly with no prima donas and everyone is made welcome but if you want to sing expect a full orchestra backing from everyone else. So if Big Mick comes over for a trip to the UK we will arrange a session in his honour any night he wants to go there. If any other catters are in the area remember you are most welcome any Wednesday. Cheers Bill

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Big Mick
Date: 19 Aug 99 - 09:06 PM

Hey CES!!!!!! Cheating, bro! Not good enough. Extremely average. You have to tell us why, what makes the place special. C'mon my friend, I want the lowdown so when I visit it, I will feel like I already know the place

All the best,

Mick

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Celtic-End Singer
Date: 19 Aug 99 - 06:44 PM

The Scotia Bar in Glasgow- great place!

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: joeler
Date: 19 Aug 99 - 03:17 PM

My favorite pub was Tommy's in Oxnard California. You would walk in and a beer was slid down the bar to you before you even sat down. After you had had a few to many you could walk across the street to a little park and lay down on the lawn and take a nap. I used to like to talk to the migrant workers there about when they would pick beans in the thumb of Michigan.

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Jack (who is called Jack)
Date: 19 Aug 99 - 01:04 PM

The best 'pub' in Cleveland bar none (pun intended) is The Barking Spider. Its in an area called University Circle, which was once populated by the affluent of the gilded age a century ago, but is now a nexus of museums, universities, hospitals, concert halls etc. The Spider is located in a sizable old carraige house; small, dark, ivy covered on two sides, and decorated within with eclectic paintings by local artists. There's a wood stove in the corner, and local musicians every night for whom they pass the hat. It has a great owner/manager named Martin, in his 50s, who is tall, portly, with a big grey mane and beard, kind of like a Santa Claus in blue denim and flannel. He has two beautiful daughters who sometimes tend bar. There was, until recently, an old stray mutt, named him Blackie that Martin adopted and let live out his last years at the pub. Blackie was partially deaf and a little blind, and would mosey around bumming backscratches and smokies from the patrons. It has game room in the garage area, and a wall sized public bulletin board next to the bar. There's always some dog-eared reading material scatter about--usually some Scientific Americans, National Geographics and some other eclectic publications. A hangout for artists, students, musicians, professors...anyone really, the Spider has a seemingly infinite supply of the atmosphere that other bars work so hard to create but never do.

The Spider virtually saved my wedding too. The nuptuals were planned for the last week in December. I was in engineering school and working full time, taking two graduate level courses. My wife-to-be was an ICU nurse and had decided to do most of the wedding details herself (including making her own wedding dress). Even thought we only planned a small candlelight ceremony with about 40 freinds and family, it was still a lot to do. Also, Christmas was comimg with all that entails, we were in a carolling club, and I forget what else, but suffice it to say we were stretched about 20 fathoms beyond our limits.

So its the first Friday after exams, about 3 weeks before the wedding. She calls me at the end of our work shifts and says that she NEEDS to go out NOW for a beer or twelve or she's going to go postal. Anyplace will do as long as a) there is beer, and b) its nowhere near the vicinity of that damned wedding dress. I had just learned of the Spider so I gave her directions to meet me there. School's already out so the place is near deserted. Just Martin, Blackie, a bartender, and one or two regulars sitting around the fire. The wall by the fireplace is all windows, and we sat there till 1 a.m., drinking, relaxing, talking, petting the dog and watching the snow fall gently outside. We felt more deliciously removed from our lives for those few hours than we have on most of our vacations since then. It wasn't just what we needed, it was everything we could have wanted.

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Big Mick
Date: 19 Aug 99 - 08:58 AM

Rick, you're a friggin' mindreader. There were two reason's I had for starting it. One was to get what Dan and Barry have given us, which is the "feel"of what makes a great pub. Secondly, when I am "on the road" and in a city that I am unfamiliar with for an extended period, I always search out the real pubs. The neighborhood joint where the local musician's hang out, where one can get a "proper" and good conversation. Where you can sit in the corner and perhaps share a song or tune. I was hopeful that the wonderful musicians and singers here in our community would let us know where they are, and what makes these places special. We are well along the way.

So how about it, folks. Rick gave you a wish list. Tell us about the good pubs in your town. Both in the states and overseas. Let's keep this one going for a bit.

Great job, Dan. I knew I could count on you.

Mick

Subject: RE: Favorite pubs - tell us about yours
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 19 Aug 99 - 01:41 AM

Hey Mick, I just thought of something. If this thread can stick around for a while and enough catters see it, it could be a great thing to keep a copy of it when travelling. I'd love to know if anyone has favourites in:

Buffalo
Rochester
Syracuse
Albany
Erie Pa.
Pittsburgh
Washington

Rick