Lyric identification help needed -various songs

Subject: Lyric identification help needed
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 04 Aug 10 - 07:52 PM

Hi all, I got this request from Nick, a carer at a community for adults with a range of learning difficulties. He attends Exmouth Folk Night with two of the residents. One Young lady, Sinha, who exhibits autistic behaviours, likes to perform, which we welcome. She plays a recorder or sings a song, which we are delighted to include.. The words are often recognisable in the context of the song tune, but would be hard to make out otherwise. She has picked up some new ones from somewhere, and her supporters would like to identify them so that they can help her learn them fully. This from Nick...any ideas?

I wonder if you can help us identify the songs containing the following lyrics which Simha has been reciting recently:

"We never to score at the black and the rose"

"What's giving birth to Christine"

"...down the glen"

"George take off that dress and put on your trousers"

Hope you can help.

Subject: RE: Lyric identification help needed
From: Noreen
Date: 04 Aug 10 - 08:23 PM

"George take off that dress..." is from Richard Digance's Drag Queen Blues

Subject: RE: Lyric identification help needed
From: Jeri
Date: 04 Aug 10 - 08:27 PM

"Down the glen" is maybe "The Foggy Dew" (or another version of it).

Subject: RE: Lyric identification help needed -various songs
From: Noreen
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 09:33 AM

Refresh- for new ideas...

Subject: RE: Lyric identification help needed -various songs
From: GUEST,oaktree
Date: 05 Aug 10 - 10:13 AM

I googled. Both the identified songs are on this compilation cd so maybe the others are too?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-British-Folk-Various-Artists/dp/B000026ZNI/

and http://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-British-Folk-Various-Artists/dp/B000024KAU

Disc: 1
1. Dirty Old Town - Campbell, Ian Folk Group
2. Join Us In Our Game - Mr. Fox (1)
3. Crossing The Stiles - Gryphon
4. Mary of The Mountains - Humblebums
5. Goodbye Pork Pie Hat - Renbourn, John & Bert Jansch
6. Lover For All Seasons - Sallyangie
7. Foggy Dew - Imlach, Hamish
8. Courting Blues - Jansch, Bert
9. Ungodly - Decameron (1)
10. Streets Of London - Johnstons
11. Spiral Staircase - McTell, Ralph
12. Bruton Town - Pentangle
13. Mary Skeffington - Rafferty, Gerry
14. Mouse And Crow - Pegg, Carolanne
15. Back On The Road Again - Renbourn, John
16. I'm A Rover - Campbell, Alex
17. Easy Street - James, John & Pete Berryman
18. Byker Hill - Swarbrick, Dave
19. Blacksmith - Dransfields
20. My Friend Upon The Road - Digance, Richard
Disc: 2
1. Ginger Bread Man/Over The Hills - Storyteller
2. William Taplin - Giltrap, Gordon
3. Kemp's Jig - Gryphon
4. Round Cape Horn - Campbell, Alex
5. Maid That's Deep In Love - Pentangle
6. Boxing Match - Black Country Three
7. Close Your Eyes - Humblebums
8. If It Wasn't For The Unions - Imlach, Hamish
9. Red's Favourite - Renbourn, John & Bert Jansch
10. Can I Have My Money Back - Rafferty, Gerry
11. Barleycorn - Johnstons
12. Lady Mary - Sallyangie
13. Dear River Thames - Digance, Richard
14. Flowers O' The Forest - McCalmans
15. Kew Gardens - McTell, Ralph
16. Liverpool Lullaby - Campbell, Ian Folk Group
17. Sir Gavin Grimbold - Gryphon
18. Cod Liver Oil And Orange Juice - Imlach, Hamish
19. Drag Queen Blues - Digance, Richard
20. All In A Dream - Tilston, Steve

Subject: RE: Lyric identification help needed -various songs
From: Noreen
Date: 06 Aug 10 - 07:02 AM

Clever idea, oaktree :)

Subject: RE: Lyric identification help needed -various songs
From: Noreen
Date: 06 Aug 10 - 07:42 AM

OK- a long shot here, but the chorus of Boxing Match by the Black Country Three (track 6, disc 2 above) goes:

And it's come, all ye who listen to me
And never to scorn of the Black Country.

Could this be the original misheard as "We never to score at the black and the rose" (considering the Black country accents of the singers, too?)

(Lyrics here)

Subject: RE: Lyric identification help needed -various songs
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 06 Aug 10 - 07:47 PM

Totally amazing....detectives, Have sent your ponderings to Nick, and will keep you informed.