BS: 1945-1998

Subject: BS: 1945-1998
From: number 6
Date: 10 Aug 10 - 10:19 PM

absolute insanity.

1945-1998


biLL

Subject: RE: BS: 1945-1998
From: Beer
Date: 10 Aug 10 - 10:28 PM

Completely agree. Now I have to try and get some sleep after watching that.
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Subject: RE: BS: 1945-1998
From: bobad
Date: 10 Aug 10 - 10:44 PM

Abandon Earth—Or Face Extinction
Stephen Hawking

"It will be difficult enough to avoid disaster on planet Earth in the next hundred years, let alone the next thousand, or million. The human race shouldn't have all its eggs in one basket, or on one planet," says Stephen Hawking. It's time to abandon Earth.

http://bigthink.com/ideas/21691

Subject: RE: BS: 1945-1998
From: number 6
Date: 10 Aug 10 - 11:14 PM

We will probably be extinct before any effort is made to abandon earth.

thanks for the link Bobad.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: 1945-1998
From: open mike
Date: 11 Aug 10 - 03:57 AM

wow by the year 1989 there had been 1,989 nuclear explosions on earth.

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(I HOPE THIS ENDS UP ON OTHER SCREENS THE WAY IT LOOKS ON MINE)

Subject: RE: BS: 1945-1998
From: Jack Campin
Date: 11 Aug 10 - 04:19 AM

I already started a thread about this:

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=131330

Subject: RE: BS: 1945-1998
From: number 6
Date: 11 Aug 10 - 07:46 AM

sorry Jack ... didn't notice it.

maybe these 2 threads should be merged.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: 1945-1998
From: open mike
Date: 11 Aug 10 - 03:29 PM

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does that say it?

Subject: RE: BS: 1945-1998
From: number 6
Date: 11 Aug 10 - 04:16 PM

that says it !

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: 1945-1998
From: frogprince
Date: 11 Aug 10 - 07:26 PM

During the time the art piece covered, the U.S. set off a few more than everyone else put together. I don't know if we still have that distinction, and right now I don't have the stomach to try to research it.

Subject: RE: BS: 1945-1998
From: Little Hawk
Date: 11 Aug 10 - 07:37 PM

So...the USA turns out to have the biggest dick of all. WHAT a surprise...

It all started in 1945. "We'll wave our giant new atomic dick in Japan's face, and they will surrender at once to us, and the rest of the world will realized that we unquestionably have the biggest dick ever!"

Stalin, of course, couldn't put up with that! Russia was not going to be out-dicked by anyone...and the race was on!

Soon other countries were suffering severe penis envy as the USA and Russia waved ever larger dicks in each other's faces and spread little packets of radiation around in the atmosphere.

The UK stepped up to the plate and managed a...well...fairly respectable erection. Really not half bad. Jolly good, in fact, when you consider the normal British sense of reserve.

The French, however, are a passionate people. They have always regarded the British as poor seconds in the dick department, and they got right to it. Soon the French were erecting giant nuclear dicks every time the wind changed, until..."Sacre Bleu! We have a giant dick more than THREE TIMES the size of the English giant dick! The English are tiny next to us! Vive la France!"

The Americans, frantic to maintain the largest dick in the world continued testing at a furious pace and managed to maintain a sizeable lead over the Russians, despite desperate Russian attempts to catch up.

China could not stand idly by while the world reviled them and jokes were passed about the tiny dicks in China. They exploded their own giant dick out in the Chinese desert, and the country rejoiced.

India was deeply troubled at this threat to Indian manhood, so they exploded an Indian giant nuclear dick in the Indian desert. That would make the Chinese think twice, by Krishna!

Pakistan was deeply troubled at this threat to Pakistani manhood, so they exploded a Pakistani giant nuclear dick on their territory, close enough to give the Indians major worries. That would make the Indians think twice, praise Allah!

The Israelis, meanwhile, reasoned that a hidden giant dick that is not revealed until the moment you actually get FUCKED by it is a whole lot scarier to the potential fuckee than a giant dick that's already BEEN revealed....so they built an estimated 200 giant nuclear dicks of their own, but cleverly hid them in their pants and pretended not to have them at all, while sort of going "wink, wink...nudge, nudge" and drawing a finger across their throat significantly, just so the Arabs would, well, know darned well that they really DID have them...

Damn scary! You gotta sort of admire the cool steel trap mind that comes up with that little strategy for putting the fear of ultimate destruction in the heart of the heathen.

Think how bad North Korea felt about all that. No wonder they finally erected a giant dick all their own. People are now worried that Iran may have penis envy too.

Subject: RE: BS: 1945-1998
From: Ed T
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 06:40 AM

Interesting story on "How Press Censorship Hid the Shocking Truth About Nagasaki A-Bomb 65 Years Ago"

Censorship and the Nagasaki A-Bomb 65 Years Ago

Subject: RE: BS: 1945-1998
From: number 6
Date: 12 Aug 10 - 09:33 AM

very interesting.

thanks for sharing that link Ed.


biLL

Subject: RE: BS: 1945-1998
From: Lox
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 07:42 AM

Well it seems that the Bomb on Hiroshima was not seen by US generals as being necessary anyway.

Here's a link to what they had to say on the subject.

Truth

I Guess letting Stalin know who's boss is worth a few Japanese lives ...

Subject: RE: BS: 1945-1998
From: GUEST,number 6
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 08:55 AM

Thanks for that link Lox

Regardless if they had used the 'bomb' on Japan or not .... the monster had been created.

If they hadn't used it on Japan I'm sure it would have been used on some city somewhere by the early 1950's ... some city in Korea, China, Russia.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: 1945-1998
From: Lox
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 09:19 AM

I wonder how beautiful the flora and fauna of the soth pacific was before it was vapourized.

Oh well ... I guess none of us will ever know ... and a good thing too - the world is so much better now that those Islands were melted down to make a radioactive waste.

And its not like the people who lived there mattered either.


I understand whay the last poets said "the whte man's got a God complex".

We depopulated the Americas of their indigenous peoples, and then we moved vast numbers of Africans there to replace them.


And then in the civilized 20th century we obliterated and permanently contaminated the most beautiful paradises on the planet and forced the people who lived there out to boot.


I am finding it hard to find examples of the meek inheriting the earth!

Subject: RE: BS: 1945-1998
From: Stu
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 09:37 AM

Interesting - I've just watched the episode of World at War where they covered the events and discussions that led to the dropping of the bomb, as told by many of the protagonists on both sides. The Americans knew that the Japanese were looking for a way out of the war, and due to resistance from the military the Japanese Cabinet decided to approach the Soviets as intermediaries and the US had cracked the Japanese codes. However, the Soviets were planning to enter the war by attacking the Japanese army in Manchuria and they had negotiated with China to allow them to do this; Molotov would not see the Japanese Ambassador despite repeated requests and when he finally did it was to tell him the USSR was about to declare war on Japan, which they did the next day (August 9th). The Americans dropped the plutonium bomb on Nagasaki the very same morning, three days after the uranium bomb was dropped on Hiroshima.

It was only a matter of time before Japan surrendered (three weeks was the figure discussed), but Truman wanted an unconditional surrender and had spent all his time since taking office telling the world, plus he was nervous about the Soviets becoming involved in Asia. The Japanese government were constrained to a degree by the military, who were largely in favour of surrender by the time the first bomb was dropped but didn't want to talk directly to the allies. The US airforce had levelled virtually every major city in Japan (16,000 people died in one night of bombing in Tokyo - more than the complete death toll of the blitz in the UK), and they were going to run out of targets in early September. They had complete control over the skies and hit targets at will. The Japanese economy was collapsing and despite the fact their army was virtually intact their manufacturing capability was pretty much non-existent by that point.

Truman dropped the bomb as a show of force to demonstrate the US's newly developed weapon to the Soviets, as well as expedite the end of the war. In these terms it was a success, but the question has to be asked at what cost?

Subject: RE: BS: 1945-1998
From: GUEST,999
Date: 13 Aug 10 - 10:48 AM

No nukes is good nukes.