Move it on over same tune as 1941 song?

Subject: Move it on over same tune as 1941 song?
From: katlaughing
Date: 26 Aug 10 - 12:27 PM

Our local community radio station played a song from 1941 by the sunshine Drops called "What's a matter with Deep Ellen(?). The tune was essentially the same as Hank Williams' "Move it on over" so I am wondering which came first AND if there may have even been an earlier song from which both tunes derived.

The Deep Ellen song was dated 1941 and the date I found for Move it on over was 1947.

I couldn't find anything on the Sunshine Drops or the song, on google.

Any one familiar with any of this?

Thanks!

Subject: RE: Move it on over same tune as 1941 song?
From: GUEST,Songbob
Date: 26 Aug 10 - 01:55 PM

That's probably 'Deep Ellum,' the red-light district of Dallas (from 'Deep Elm', though I don't know the derivation of 'Ellum' other than mispronunciation).

Alas, the only song I know about it is 'Deep Ellum Blues,' which doesn't sound at all like 'Move It On Over.'

Deep Ellum Blues

If you go down to Deep Ellum, keep your money in your pants,
'Cause those women in Deep Ellum won't give a man a chance.

Refrain: Oh, sweet mama, Daddy's got them Deep Ellum Blues. (2X)

If you go down to Deep Ellum, keep your money in your socks,
'Cause those women in Deep Ellum will run you on the rocks.

Refrain

Once I knew a preacher, preached the Bible through and through,
He went down to Deep Ellum, now his Bible days are through.

Refrain

... if this sounds like the phraseology of the song you heard, I don't see how it could sound like "Move It ..."

Just my opinion.

Bob