BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?

Subject: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 04:26 AM

Having watched the highlights of the last day of the Test Series last night I was disappointed about the whole mood of the end of the game.

In the past, winning a series would be something to celebrate, yesterday it was a non-event.

I know that the corruption allegations had an affect, but why were they made in the middle of the match - this took the shine of the remarkable stand by Trott and Broad, and the brilliant bowling by England in the series.

Secondly, is the is the Lords Cricket Ground a hotbed of international terrorism? It was totally contemptabloe that the award ceremony was only attended by the pompous old farts - to coin a rugby union phrase.

England may have won the test series, England fans were robbed of the victory.

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 04:43 AM

When there is a suspicion that there may have been a lot of money on England breaking records, then it sort of takes the shine off the win.
Of course one hopes that this wasn't so, but all it needs is the slightest suspicion, to taint the victory.
Unfortunately, Near and Far East betting syndicates, have affected the outcome of many sorting events all over the world. Remember the 'failure' of the spotlights at a football match in the UK a few years back? That was put down to sabotage in an attempt to keep the scoreline as it was. Obviously there was a lot of money riding on that result.

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 05:09 AM

I'm not suggesting that corruption in any sport should be covered up, but the issue is the timing in which the allegations were made, ie in the middle of a match/just before the end of the series. To me that serves no purpose except to run-down and take attention away from England's achievment

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 05:32 AM

Now let me see. It was announced on Sunday. That's when the News Of The World publishes their newspaper. No good doing it on the Monday (today).
Or have I missed something.

Sadly, betting has got totally out of control. Unfortunately there is always somebody who will get tempted to make a quick buck, especially if they think they can get away with it.

What is sadder, is it would appear that a very good up and coming young player of Pakistan has been harvested/groomed by these syndicates, who do not even care.
I doubt if they will be worried about this promising young lad, but they could have possibly ruined his career.
I know he shouldn't have been tempted, but I dare say the smooth talking syndicate crooks, did a good job at getting him to conform.
That doesn't mean I condone such things.

I just feel very sad for players such as him.

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 05:44 AM

Shame his parents didn't teach him the word "No", Arthur.
I despise cheats, in any walk of life.
If he's a cheat (and I say "If", it's still to be proved) he deserves a life-ban, and a fine of much more than the money he made.

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Amergin
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 05:47 AM

I'm just shocked that there actually are cricket fans.....

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 05:55 AM

It's like many things in this life Amergin, [women?], either you likes it, or you don't understand it.:)

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 05:57 AM

As I've suggested in verse, here, we should go back to Oliver Cromwell's way and make all gambling illegal.

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 06:22 AM

It isn't the fans but the people who make them and use them are the ones I hold in contempt! Do you realize how many crickets it takes to make a fan? I don't know myself but I'll bet its a thousand or more! Even though a cricket is just an insect, killing them off to make a fan is just pathetic, especially when you can make a nice one cheaply out of cardboard.

Cricket fans are beneath contempt..............


Spaw

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: fat B****rd
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 06:25 AM

I do not support cheating in any way shape or form, but, I recall reading last week that the Pakistan Cricket team were donating their bonuses to the Flood Relief fund. Unforunately I can't remember the exact amount involved (millions in rupees about thirty four thousand in quids) but it was less than a weeks wage for some "big time" soccer players.
As I said I do not approve of cheating but it must be tempting to make a few extra quid when wages seem to be so low.

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 06:39 AM

Quote from BWM
I despise cheats, in any walk of life.
If he's a cheat (and I say "If", it's still to be proved) he deserves a life-ban, and a fine of much more than the money he made.
Unquote

I agree entirely.

I am just sad that the syndicate got their hooks into him. They will come out of it unscathed. A bit like drug dealers.

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 07:30 AM

Cricket is so boring and even more so is listening to cricket fanatics pontificating about cricket. Now polo is a competely different matter!!

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 08:47 AM

Why don't you naff off Bonzo and stick the polo up your jacksie. What a mint idea.

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 10:20 AM

The last good polo match I saw used the heads of my enemies. And I agree with Spaw about cricket fans. PETA really should get involved.

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 10:52 AM

"Why don't you naff off Bonzo and stick the polo up your jacksie. What a mint idea."

Yes, that's exactly the sort of reply I would explect from your sort - no surprises there!

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Amergin
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 11:02 AM

Yeah I just don't get it...there are plenty of sports more exciting than cricket....sports like synchronised swimming....

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 11:18 AM

Explect??? Where did that L come from!!

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 11:43 AM

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Paul Burke
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 05:11 PM

Trust Bozo Halfwit to turn a tragedy for cricket into an argument with non- cricket-lovers about his own obsession. Word that begins and ends with T, and has two other letters, comes to mind.

I really hope they are innocent; there was time for the newspaper bastards to concoct the whole thing between the disputed balls, and the publication of the paper. After all, it's fairly easy to predict the past.

But that's a straw. They are probably stupid, or naive, or threatened by scarier powers, or greedy.

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: jeffp
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 05:28 PM

From: John MacKenzie

It's like many things in this life Amergin, [women?], either you likes it, or you don't understand it.:)

It's a good thing you don't have to understand women in order to like them.

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 30 Aug 10 - 07:20 PM

""As I've suggested in verse, here, we should go back to Oliver Cromwell's way and make all gambling illegal.""

If you recall, WAV, America once did that with booze. Eventually they had to revoke it, but the crime syndicate which grew out of it is still the greatest scourge in US history.

It's a nice thought, but totally impractical. It would produce much worse corruption than a couple of betting scams.

The only logical response is a life ban upon conviction, for the players involved, probably after a jail sentence for fraud (which is taken quite seriously by the UK authorities), and a longer term in clink for the Mr Fixit who was to be paid more than my total household income for the next ten years.

Arranging a few no-balls may not seem like much, and would have no effect on the match outcome, but Mr Fixit would have believed somebody was willing to lash out £140,000 for it,and must have known that somebody intended to take the bookies for a couple of Mil at least, and that loss gets paid for in due course by the honest punters.

The slag should get a ten stretch "pour encourager les autres".

It's a shame that the instigator would get away scot free (had this been a genuine scam, rather than a NOTW setup).

Don T

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Alan Day
Date: 31 Aug 10 - 04:52 AM

The players involved now say that their families were being threatened,which I suppose is an excuse, but they would have been happy to take the money.
This is just the tip of the iceberg as far as match fixing goes in any sport where gambling is involved. I was certain as a young lad watching football that certain games were fixed then.
Sad for sport in general.
Al

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 31 Aug 10 - 07:03 AM

Blimey, just heard that if they are found guilty, they could face the death penalty. I find that hard to believe.

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 31 Aug 10 - 08:28 AM

Excellent.
Hang, draw and quarter the twats, and put their heads on pikes at the gates of Lords! :-) :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 31 Aug 10 - 08:41 AM

LMFAO

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 31 Aug 10 - 09:12 AM

"I'm just shocked that there actually are cricket fans....."

"Yeah I just don't get it...there are plenty of sports more exciting than cricket....sports like synchronised swimming...."

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Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 31 Aug 10 - 09:35 AM

Don T: allowing for the history of bootlegging in the U.S.A., e.g., and that, of course, people would break such laws, I'd still make all gambling illegal. And, on a lighter note, Spaw, do you think China's last emperor was the last due to being such a big cricket fan?!

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 31 Aug 10 - 10:16 AM

I can't account for some peoples short span of attention either... :)

My bone of contention still is the way in which the story was timed in order to detract from the achievements of the winning side.

Winning a test series, and breaking records in the process should be a thing to celebrate - and there has been no evidence of the need to conduct the award ceremonies away from the public as has been the case in every other test series. I can't imaging that the security at Lords is so bad that it would have posed a major risk.

it comes across to me that NOTW don't give a toss about how many people they upset as long as they line Murdoch's pockets even more, and I can imagine that he would hav ebeen grinning ear-to-ear seing the shine being taken of England's victory.

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: GUEST,PeterC
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 03:07 AM

"As I've suggested in verse, here, we should go back to Oliver Cromwell's way and make all gambling illegal."

It is illegal in Pakistan, maybe they should try legalising it.

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Arnie
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 08:30 AM

Only 3 players, including the captain, have been suspended from the Pakistan team. I'm sure I read somewhere that more of the Pakistan team are alleged to be involved. I would scrap the forthcoming one-day competitions and send the whole team home to get this sorted out. How on earth can a true cricket fan watch Pakistan in a t20 match without wondering if the latest no-ball or dropped catch was intentional? I'm waiting for the Ashes series now and will not be tuning into any more of this summer's competitions involving Pakistan.

Subject: RE: BS: Contempt for Cricket Fans?
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 01 Sep 10 - 09:41 AM

Too much money invested by the clubs etc Arnie.
However, I do agree. We should send them home and see if we can get another team to come over on short notice.

What if a pakistani takes a catch. Then people will be saying that the English batsman deliberateley gave a catch. It could be never ending.....................