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BS: Scientology revisited.

Richard Bridge 29 Sep 10 - 01:16 PM
Jack Campin 29 Sep 10 - 01:08 PM
Amos 29 Sep 10 - 12:49 PM
GUEST,Steamin' Willie 29 Sep 10 - 12:00 PM
olddude 29 Sep 10 - 10:58 AM
Amos 29 Sep 10 - 10:39 AM
Bonzo3legs 29 Sep 10 - 09:08 AM
SINSULL 29 Sep 10 - 08:38 AM
Greg F. 29 Sep 10 - 08:34 AM
Arthur_itus 29 Sep 10 - 08:11 AM
Lox 29 Sep 10 - 07:56 AM
Dave Hanson 29 Sep 10 - 07:19 AM
GUEST,Patsy 29 Sep 10 - 07:11 AM
GUEST,Silas 29 Sep 10 - 07:02 AM
Stu 29 Sep 10 - 06:50 AM
Bonzo3legs 29 Sep 10 - 06:47 AM
Lox 29 Sep 10 - 06:17 AM

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Subject: RE: BS: Scientology revisited.
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 01:16 PM

That link seems to take one to one minute thirteen seconds of video. What happened to the rest?


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Subject: RE: BS: Scientology revisited.
From: Jack Campin
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 01:08 PM

They were asking banjo players to brush their teeth?


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Subject: RE: BS: Scientology revisited.
From: Amos
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 12:49 PM

Dan: For a while the Scientology oprganization put out a booklet called "The Way To Happiness" which was full of ordinary little homilies guiding people to live happier lives--nothing weird, just stuff like "Brush your teeth", "Talk to your parents", "Try to see the other guy's viewpoint" and other such advice. Good advice but nothing new about any of it, really. Anyway, I believe that for a while the Deering people were tucking them into the banjos. I never saw this, myself, but I have heard of it from someone or other.
A somewhat pretentious title, I guess! :D

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Scientology revisited.
From: GUEST,Steamin' Willie
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 12:00 PM

I too feel sorry for Christians, insomuch as scientology is a cult that shows where mind control of weak and vulnerable people can end up if you are not careful.

As church / synagogue / mosque is a crutch (and a worthwhile one in many ways) for many people, society at large must beware of what happens when cults believe in themselves a bit too much. Many of our mainstream religions demanded such adherence at one time and it took more than just the age of enlightenment for reform to start. The harrowing stories of imams convincing people to be suicide bombers or predatory priests ruining peoples' lives are reminders that a cult is a cult and controlling other people seems to be a normal if repugnant trait of many such organisations, if not intrinsically them all..

And for saying such things? I appear to be part of aggressive secularism and something to do with the nazis according the Pope the other week. His weird attack is no different to the disgraceful arguments put forward by scientology in the original BBC documentary, not to mention the logic chopping of their lawyers when defending the indefensible.


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Subject: RE: BS: Scientology revisited.
From: olddude
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 10:58 AM

I was told when you use to buy a new Deering banjo they would include the Scientology pamphlets with it ... anyone know if that is true or is it an urban myth


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Subject: RE: BS: Scientology revisited.
From: Amos
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 10:39 AM

None of the above has anything to do with the actual subject developed under the label. The cult-like organization about which the scandals and shock stories are generated are about on a par with the scandals of horny priests in some Christian cults--they are not a reflection of the philosophical propositions or the tenets of the subject, as it was developed by the original thirteen key players back in the day. Instead, a cult developed of badly altered teachings, political and economic infighting, and loud PR both pro and con.

Trying to get any insight into the subject from exposes in the media is like trying to understand the Sermon on the Mount by watching a big-money televangelist doing a fundraiser.

This is the kind of fairly mindless claptrap that makes me sympathize with Christians whose beliefs and undersatandings of the world have been slimed by bad actors and madcap organizational highjinks which have pretty thoroughly changed the meaning of the word.

While I have little sympathy with the cult and am happy to see it subjected to PR catastrophes brought on it by its own actions, I think the distinction should be preserved.

A


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Subject: RE: BS: Scientology revisited.
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 09:08 AM

And then there's the Jive Aces who play great music but seem to have been taken over!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: Scientology revisited.
From: SINSULL
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 08:38 AM

South Park covered Scientology a few years back. Tom Cruise wouldn't come out of the closet and Stan, I think, was chosen as their new leader until he started giving away classes for free. A little heavy handed and cost them Chef. No sense of humor in Scientology.


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Subject: RE: BS: Scientology revisited.
From: Greg F.
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 08:34 AM

And L. Ron Hubbard is somewhere laughing so hard he's wetting his pants, that these idiots actually took him seriously.


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Subject: RE: BS: Scientology revisited.
From: Arthur_itus
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 08:11 AM

Just don't ever give them your name and address or have a personality test off them.
You will be bombarded from then on in. They don't give up.

Having made that mistake myself (totally naive at the time = didn't know who they were), the only way it stopped was having moved several times and they couldn't trace me anymore.

Dave Hanson seems pretty close to explaing them in 3 words.


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Subject: RE: BS: Scientology revisited.
From: Lox
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 07:56 AM

Patsy - if you want to watch the documentary just click on the link


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Subject: RE: BS: Scientology revisited.
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 07:19 AM

Mind controling cult.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: BS: Scientology revisited.
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 07:11 AM

I remember it being on but missed it, what was it about? Haven't read much about Scientology itself either, can someone enlighten me what exactly it is. All I've heard is that Tom Cruise didn't allow his wife to make a sound throughout labour or is this just an urban myth?


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Subject: RE: BS: Scientology revisited.
From: GUEST,Silas
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 07:02 AM

nonscience?


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Subject: RE: BS: Scientology revisited.
From: Stu
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 06:50 AM

Or nonsense even.


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Subject: RE: BS: Scientology revisited.
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 06:47 AM

Load of nonsence!


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Subject: BS: Scientology revisited.
From: Lox
Date: 29 Sep 10 - 06:17 AM

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       Three years later, BBC Panorama are contacted by some surprising
       witnesses and this follow up documentary was made.



       Panorama





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