Looking for a song sung byKeith Chandler

Subject: Looking for a song sung byKeith Chandler
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 02 Oct 10 - 12:14 PM

Assuming Keith Chandler does not mind, I have had a song he collected in Eno (I think) banging around in my head, and all I can remember is it concerned a young lass whose parents wished her to marry a 'Dusty old Miller', she needless to say prefers Willie who rolls her close to the wall' and her mother tries to change her mind tempting the lass with the Millers 'Bacon and kitchen and Hall' The whole thing is held together by a belting tune, (firmly entrenched in my head)
Keith are you still out there and do you mind? I would love the lyrics.

Subject: RE: Looking for a song sung byKeith Chandler
From: Tug the Cox
Date: 03 Oct 10 - 09:46 AM

Is That Nick Dow from catford Folk Club, mid 70's. What you up to?

Subject: RE: Looking for a song sung byKeith Chandler
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 03 Oct 10 - 01:01 PM

TtC - Nick Dow last seen and heard by me and many others at the White Horse Folk Festival in Grove in August, and performing excellently as reported on this thread !

Nick - all best wishes for finding Keith's lyrics!

Kitty

Subject: RE: Looking for a song sung byKeith Chandler
From: GUEST,KEITH CHANDLER
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 08:10 AM

Thanks to the voices of reason. PLEASE remove my personal details from this forum, and have the good sense and courtesy to vet postings before they are made public. The insane asylum is being run by the lunatics.

-------------------Done. Apologies for the delay. JoeClone-----

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I received an e-mail from the offending party. He was very apologetic, and also requested that his post be removed.
-Joe Offer, Forum Moderator-

Subject: RE: Looking for a song sung byKeith Chandler
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 07:22 PM

Very sorry to see that a genuine request from a great performer for info about another great performer who's made a huge contribution to the preservation of traditional song and dance in England (eg through Old Spot) has caused upset....

Kitty

Subject: RE: Looking for a song sung byKeith Chandler
From: Effsee
Date: 04 Oct 10 - 10:33 PM

Aye, a bit of a strop from Mr.Candler...not the way to win friends I would think! :-(

Subject: RE: Looking for a song sung byKeith Chandler
From: greg stephens
Date: 05 Oct 10 - 03:33 AM

Any unpleasantness was caused by an offending post(not by Keith Chandler of course) which has been deleted, luckily.

Subject: RE: Looking for a song sung byKeith Chandler
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 18 Oct 10 - 02:07 PM

Keith if you are still reading this thread, and you are prepared to help me with the lyrics, would it be acceptable to contact me on my E.mail [e-mail] Many thanks and I hope you are still singing, you helped with my education in folk music when I was young and ambitious, and as you can tell you left a lasting impression.
kind regards
Nick

Subject: RE: Looking for a song sung byKeith Chandler
From: Silas
Date: 19 Oct 10 - 11:09 AM

The problem was the poster did not realise the possible consequenses of posting all of the contact information.

Just a mistake through a little thoughtlessness, that's all. Can't blame Keith for his (farly mild) reaction.

I'll copy the last message as post it to Keith if it helps.

Subject: RE: Looking for a song sung byKeith Chandler
From: GUEST,Derek Schofield
Date: 19 Oct 10 - 11:40 AM

Silas wrote:
I'll copy the last message as post it to Keith if it helps.

I've already done that.
Derek

Subject: RE: Looking for a song sung byKeith Chandler
From: Silas
Date: 19 Oct 10 - 11:40 AM

OK, (He's got it twice now!)

Subject: RE: Looking for a song sung byKeith Chandler
From: Nick Dow
Date: 08 Jan 11 - 03:39 PM

Finally tracked down the song, and I am busy learning it. I heard that Keith was not so well, and I hope he makes a speedy recovery.

Subject: RE: Looking for a song sung byKeith Chandler
From: Leadfingers
Date: 08 Jan 11 - 07:52 PM

Its always dodgy posting someone else's contact details on an open forum without clearing it first !

Subject: RE: Looking for a song sung byKeith Chandler
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 09 Jan 11 - 07:29 PM

If Keith's not well, I hope he makes a speedy recovery too.

K

Subject: RE: Looking for a song sung byKeith Chandler
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 10 Jan 11 - 07:27 AM

Think this is the one you're looking for, as sung by the late Michael 'Straighty' Flanagan from Inagh, Co. Clare (recorded in 1975)
Jim Carroll

SPRIGHTLY YOUNG DAMSEL.
Michael Flanagan, Inagh.

I'll sing of a sprightly young damsel who lived in the county Kildare.
She was pretty, quite charming and handsome; her features were blooming and fair.
Her parents had great store of riches, she was sprightly and funny with all.
But at night she was quite discontented with her face turned up to the wall.

She got up very early one morning, complained of a pain in her head.
She dressed herself cosy and warm and called her mamma out of bed.
She says, "my dear mother I wonder why my tears do abundantly fall;
Every night I do lie cold and shiver with my face turned up to the wall".

She says, "my dear daughter be easy, I guess what's the cause of your woe.
Won't you marry Sean Moore the fat miller who lives in the valley below?
For he has both money, land, riches, a well furnished kitchen and hall.
And with him you never need grumble with your face turned up to the wall".

"Don't you know my own darling Willie, who lives down at the lake?
His heart is both mild soft and tender, he used me both early and late.
I'd rather my own darling Willie without e'er a penny at all,
Than thousands with that dusty old miller who'll leave me lying cold to the wall".

"Don't speak any more about Willie", her mother this instant replied.
"For 'tis neither my will or intention that you should be ever his bride.
For he has neither money nor riches nor bacon in kitchen or hall.
Nor is he the man I intended to keep you at night from the wall".

"Ah", she says, "my dear mother I wonder why you should such nonsense uphold.
I find a great change in your temper, and crazy as you're getting old;
For when you were youthful and merry, you'd give money, land, riches and all
In to some sprightly young fellow who'll keep you at night from the wall".

At this the poor mother relented and seeing her dear daughter in grief,
And soon she quickly consented to give her mind ease and relief.
And then she prepared a grand wedding, rice puddings, punch, whiskey and all
And married she was to her Willie, who rolled her far down from the wall.

"I think it far better in winter when Willie goes off to the plough;
Go and get up his pail and his *piggin, and go milk his one horned cow.
Than thousands of money, land, riches, and bacon in kitchen and hall,
Than to lie with that dusty old miller who'll leave me lying cold to the wall"

*Piggin:- A small wooden bucket with one stave projecting above the rim for use as a handle; (also called "pipkin").

We have been unable to trace any other version of this, either in print or sound.

Subject: RE: Looking for a song sung byKeith Chandler
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 05:49 PM

Thank you so much. I need to re=learn it now I have the full version. The tune is belting! Thank you again Jim

Subject: RE: Looking for a song sung byKeith Chandler
From: Leadfingers
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 09:16 PM

Good to see that MudCat managed to get the information required !