BS: 'S no behaviour for grownups

Subject: BS: 'S no behaviour for grownups
From: Penny S.
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 02:00 PM

I have been observing how people approach the business of snow clearance, both in this last snap and previously, and have noticed a range of behaviours, some of which are very irritating.

1. Clear their own path and drive, their frontage, and anywhere else in view which needs it, putting the snow carefully where it will cause no problems..
2. On seeing people clearing the general area, offer coffee or soup.
3. Clear their own path and drive and their frontage, putting the snow carefully where it will cause no problems..
4. Clear their own path and drive, putting the snow carefully where it will cause no problems.
5. Clear their own path and drive, putting the snow where it will cause problems, by blocking the footpath or even someone else's car. (Heard someone discussing this latter, otherwise it would not have occurred to me that anyone would do it).
6. Clear nothing, but walk and drive around creating compacted snow and ice for others to deal with.
7. Clear nothing, but, on seeing people clearing the general area, criticise the way they have done it and suggest further work to do.
8. Clear nothing and stay indoors (could be ill or old or otherwise excusable).

There tends to be an inverse relationship between age and the distance down this list.
Penny

Subject: RE: BS: 'S no behaviour for grownups
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 02:10 PM

9. Move where it's warmer and screw shoveling snow.

Subject: RE: BS: 'S no behaviour for grownups
From: gnu
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 02:10 PM

6. God put it there, God can take it away.

Subject: RE: BS: 'S no behaviour for grownups
From: Amos
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 02:11 PM

Here in San Diego we move all our snow up into the mountains before it is allowed to land. That saves everyone a lot of headaches.


A

Subject: RE: BS: 'S no behaviour for grownups
From: gnu
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 02:16 PM

Piss off, eh.

If I win the lotto, I am gonna buy a house next to you and get a big snow machine and... hmmm... on second thought, maybe just an ice maker... shaken or stirred my good man?

Subject: RE: BS: 'S no behaviour for grownups
From: Penny S.
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 03:54 AM

Latest observation, gleaned from bookshopkeeper, of someone "clearing" a garage court nd piling the snow in front of someone else's garage.

No brains?

Penny

Subject: RE: BS: 'S no behaviour for grownups
From: Charmion
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 09:27 AM

Here in Ottawa, dumping snow from your driveway into the street or the sidewalk is a bylaw offence that can get you a big, fat ticket.
Most people shovel it onto their front lawn and flower beds. The need for a place to deposit snow is one reason why even the meanest city house has a bit of land in front of it -- in fact, a metre of setback, required by the building code.

By late winter, when the city has spent its entire snow-removal budget and the snowbanks are over waist height, the task of clearing that windrow of ice lumps deposited in the mouth of the driveway by the street plow can be a real challenge; one must hoist each shovel load to the top of the snowbank -- whence it promptly rolls down into the street or the sidewalk. We're all scofflaws in March, and the bylaw enforcement officers leave you alone as long as you're at least trying to be a good citizen.

The kind of neighbourly bad-mouthing described by Penny above just tells me that these people have very little experience with large quantities of snow.

Subject: RE: BS: 'S no behaviour for grownups
From: artbrooks
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 10:23 AM

Been there...done that. That's why I live in New Mexico.   Bee-dubya-el's solution works for me.

Subject: RE: BS: 'S no behaviour for grownups
From: GUEST,999
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 11:50 AM

Would work for me, too.

I was listening to the six o`clock newscast
The weatherman mentioned snow
Soon as I heard that four-letter word
I was packin` my bags to go

(from Jesse Winchester)

Subject: RE: BS: 'S no behaviour for grownups
From: Mrrzy
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 12:30 PM

It's snowing today! I am a #2.

Subject: RE: BS: 'S no behaviour for grownups
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 12:48 PM

Snowing here, too...almost an inch so far. I am a #4....and I have a LOT of drive. I often go out when a lot od snow is expected and shovel 3-4 times during the snowfall...even at night... to avoid one deep effort.

Subject: RE: BS: 'S no behaviour for grownups
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 01:49 PM

I have a son who lives in snow country. His drive is some 100 yards long. They have a Bobcat to deal with it.

I am in the city, too oldt too soon, so have a hired snow remover to deal with it.

Should have moved to the tropics.

Subject: RE: BS: 'S no behaviour for grownups
From: Bill D
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 05:53 PM

So far, I have dealt with the about 2" using a stiff-bristled push broom. As long as it is cold & light, I don't shovel.

Subject: RE: BS: 'S no behaviour for grownups
From: ragdall
Date: 16 Dec 10 - 07:00 PM

We live where there is six months of snowy weather. Neither of us is capable now of lifting heavy snow and throwing it over the top of the piles that can accumulate higher than our heads along the driveway. We have a snowblower, actually we have two. I have a small electric "Power Curve" for clearing our large deck. The larger gas powered blower is too heavy for me to use easily, so I use my little one to clear our long double-wide driveway, if needed. The blowers spread the snow lightly and evenly over the lawn so that wall of snow doesn't build up along the driveway. Snow that is blown will melt much more quickly in spring than the snow that is piled, compacts and becomes ice.

We don't have public sidewalks to clear. We only clear our own driveway and walkways on our property. That's all we can manage and even that is getting to be a challenge with my husband not well. I'm hoping that I can manage for the rest of this winter. Next year I'm considering approaching a neighbour with the offer of the use of our big blower if they will clear our driveway and theirs.

Our neighbours clear only their own areas as well. I've seen people with blades on trucks push snow out onto the street in other parts of town, but nobody on my street does that. There's up to $500 fine if they get caught.

rags

Subject: RE: BS: 'S no behaviour for grownups
From: Penny S.
Date: 17 Dec 10 - 07:24 AM

It's snowing again here. but so far broom stuff, or maybe even ignore and wait. I am a bit worried about where to put the next lot. I have a large privet clump in front of the property with gaps in it like children's dens. I used these last time, and though the heaps have reduced a bit, more of the same would be a problem. The road clearing heap against the wall over the road, facing north, hasn't reduced much, and is scree shaped, so can't easily be added to - see above.

I've just bought some more salt, but not replaced my plastic snow shovel - I think my present one has some more life in it. I like the sound of a blower. I wonder if the neighbourhood could afford one.

Penny

Subject: RE: BS: 'S no behaviour for grownups
From: Naemanson
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 04:42 AM

I just wrote about this in another thread. I love reading about snow. I took Bee-dubya-ell's method years ago and every year at this time I love reading about how wise it was to move to Guam.

It's winter here too. We are 13 degrees north of the equator so we are starting the cool dry season. Last month we harvested our first crop of bananas, the guavas are hanging heavy on the tree and the chico trees are bearing. Breakfast on the carport is nice with the cats and dog hanging out in the grass and a cool breeze coming out of the east.

Subject: RE: BS: 'S no behaviour for grownups
From: Slag
Date: 18 Dec 10 - 08:58 AM

Get Al Gore to come and pronounce "Global Warmings" over it and then watch it melt away in all that blessed heat.