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BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?

GUEST,Grishka 15 Dec 10 - 06:33 AM
JohnInKansas 15 Dec 10 - 02:18 AM
The Fooles Troupe 14 Dec 10 - 11:40 PM
open mike 14 Dec 10 - 11:09 PM
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GUEST,Joe Offer, again 13 Dec 10 - 08:32 PM
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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: GUEST,Grishka
Date: 15 Dec 10 - 06:33 AM

Summary: the Webdings font should not be used on the general web including Mudcat. Microsoft had the goal of dominating the web, which fortunately failed. Unicode codes like ✈ work on any present-day platform and with any ordinary font.


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 15 Dec 10 - 02:18 AM

In Word, most users should be familiar with entry of characters that aren't on the keyboard by
1. Turning on NumPad.
2. Holding down Alt while
3. Typing the decimal code for the character on the Number Pad.
Unfortunately, this only works for characters with decimal codes in the ASCII/ANSI range and thus for numbers less than 256 in older Word versions. More recent versions appear to be able to insert some "higher numbered characters" with the Alt+NumPad method; but so far as I've found Microsoft has not published any documentation indicating what may work, so trial and error is the only way to see what your version will do.

On my Vista computer, with Office 2007 Business version, the decimal code 9992 gives me an "airplane" in a Word document, using AltNumpad 9992.



In Word you can also use the hexadecimal character number for any number in the full UNICODE character definition by typing the hex code and with the cursor left immediately on the right of the last character hit Alt+X to convert what you typed to the Unicode character glyph. Some "basic" versions may not have this feature, but any "full version" of Word since Win98 times should have it.

The Alt+X switch is a toggle, so you can also "read" the hex char value for any legal Unicode character that you can copy and paste into Word, by putting your cursor next to the character (on the right) and hitting Alt+X to convert it to its hex code number. With the hex code, you can consult the Unicode standard to find out what to call it.

Note that unlike most "toggles" you don't highlight the hex number you want to convert. You place the cursor immediately after the code and then hold down Alt while pressing X.

In Word, you can use the hex number F1 by typing the characters F and 1 and immediately Alt-X to get an n-tilde, then format to Webdings to get the slanting airplane from Webdings. The necessity of formatting to the Webdings typeface indicates that Webdings is a "phony font" that Microsoft has provided to allow using code numbers (mostly defined by Unicode as other characters) to print "alternate pictures" into Word. The use of "alternate font pages" is well known and well documented, except for any useful indication (at least in Microsoft programs) of which "pages" are real Unicode chars and which are "something else."

Also in Word, you can get the "straight on" airplane mentioned by several above by typing 2708 - the hexadecimal character value corresponding to the decimal 9992 - and using Alt-X to convert it to the glyph.

In html, you can use either the hex number or the decimal number for a Unicode character :

Using hex: ✈ gives

and:

Using decimal code: ✈ gives

Note the "x" that's added to the code when using the hex number and omitted when using the decimal number.

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 14 Dec 10 - 11:40 PM

Because the Dings think they do?

I'll get me hat ...


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: open mike
Date: 14 Dec 10 - 11:09 PM

HMMM--O.K. IT DID NOT LOOK LIKE A PLANE AS I TYPED MY REPLY..
BUT TURNED INTO ONE WHEN THE TEXT WAS POSTED

THE ICON THAT I FOUND IN WEB DINGS WAS FROM A DIFFERENT ANGLE ñ

SO WHY DO THEY CALL THEM WEBDINGS IF WEB PAGES DON'T "DO" THEM?


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: open mike
Date: 14 Dec 10 - 11:00 PM

&#(((@:

????


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: open mike
Date: 14 Dec 10 - 10:56 PM

ON MY COMPUTER I SEE
WEBDINGS
AND WINGDINGS (1,2,& 3)
……
……BUT WHEN I GO TO:
START--->ALL PROGRAMS--->ACCESSORIES--->SYSTEM TOOLS---> CHARACTER MAP
FOR WEBDINGS   I DO NOT SEE IT LISTED...???


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: open mike
Date: 14 Dec 10 - 10:43 PM

webdings lower case j = 

well, it looks like an airplane in windows word...


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 14 Dec 10 - 12:53 AM

Among fonts likely to be on your computer, so that you don't have to go to high unicode numbers, you can type F1 (the characters, not the key) in Word and with the cursor immediately to the right of the "1" hit Alt-X. In most fonts you'll then see an n-tilde. Change the font to "Webdings," and you should get a little airplane, swept wing, climbing up to the right.

Webdings is a "special" font and it doesn't work if you select the font first and type the hex code F1 (or the full 0xF1 in webdings before toggling (Allt-X) to the gyph.

If you create it in Word as described, you should be able to copy it to most other programs, but once "converted" it's a pure glyph and won't swap back to the code like characters in "normal fonts."

Web pages don't do the webdings font easily, so far as I know.

ñ

John


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 09:51 PM

✈ = & # 9 9 9 2 ; -- with semicolon afterward -- this is correct coding and reads as code in the Mudcat From box during Preview.

✈ without semicolon afterward -- gets converted even in the From box when you preview.

Neither of 'em readable as code by Firebug, both readable in "View Source".

Interesting.

~ Becky in Tucson
professional webgeek (but it's only part of what I do, so I'm always ready to learn something new...)


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: Genie
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 09:30 PM

If I type & # 9 9 9 2 without the spaces between characters it looks like this:



And I don't even have that font.


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: katlaughing
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 09:24 PM

There's a lot to wade through on THIS PAGE which may be promising.


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: Amos
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 09:23 PM

Thanks, Bobad!


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: Amos
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 09:22 PM

is done calling character x2708.

Works better!


A


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: Amos
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 09:18 PM

Hmmm...it shows up as a top-down silhouette of an airline on my iMac. If you are using WIndows, it may be something different. I tried embedding the example into my HTML but the browser ignored it and just made a Q.


Let's try this again:

Q QQ   QQ   Q

Hmmm?

Nope. Doesn't do Wingdings.


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: bobad
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 09:18 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 08:59 PM

Hey Joe, can I join the Queue too?

Q


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: GUEST,Joe Offer, again
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 08:32 PM


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: GUEST,Joe Offer at the women's center
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 08:30 PM

Q


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: Nick E
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 08:09 PM

Errr perhaps i spoke too soon I get a spruce tree and picinic table Icon!


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: Nick E
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 08:07 PM

You will be famous... I just have a vibe.
TY!


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Subject: RE: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: Amos
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 07:24 PM

WINGDINGS UPPER CASE Q.


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Subject: BS: Airplane Icon..from Font?
From: Nick E
Date: 13 Dec 10 - 07:17 PM

Can anyone ID the font, webdings or otherwise has a top view of a commercial jet aircraft?

Thanks


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