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katlaughing 18 Jan 11 - 08:24 PM
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Subject: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: katlaughing
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 08:24 PM

Have I been out to lunch? Just noticed this today at the top of the threads to the right a little bit. Kinda neat!

current visitors to mudcat.org are: 27 / reading / 7 writing / 90 idle


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: maeve
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 08:28 PM

I saw it today for the first time also, kat.


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: Leadfingers
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 08:29 PM

Didnt you know Big Brother is watching you Kat ??


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 09:01 PM

Kat Kat
There are stats better than that
But Joe - also in the know
Won't let ME ..tell YOU... so

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

He and Max claim the issue is "stalking."


Yeah, garg, what can I say??? -Joe O-


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: michaelr
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 10:55 PM

I see no such thing!?


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: Beer
Date: 18 Jan 11 - 10:58 PM

nor I.
ad.


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: Bert
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 01:23 AM

But who are they?


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 01:38 AM

I see nothing, I hear nothing, I know nothing....


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: Little Robyn
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 01:58 AM

I'm not here!
Robyn


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: gnomad
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 02:44 AM

Interesting. I don't see it being of any immediate use for those of us not involved with running the show, but doubtless someone more ingenious than I will find a way to incorporate it into one of those odd games we indulge in on here.

I will admit to wondering how it distinguishes "reading" from "idle" though.


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: gnomad
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 02:45 AM

And now it's gone again.    Hmmm....?


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 03:07 AM

In my last 7 or 8 page flips here, I've seen the new thing twice.

I suspect it's a feature still under development(?).

John


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: maeve
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 05:42 AM

"current visitors to mudcat.org are:
30 reading / 2 writing / 80 idle
powered by chartbeat"

It appears sporadically in the Random Link area; roughly to the right of the Mudcat Cafe logo. I reckon that "Reading" means a person has clicked on a link. As for "Idle"... humph!


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: Will Fly
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 05:43 AM

What's the difference between reading and idle? And - I've just checked the writing bit. No change - and I'm writing...


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 05:43 AM

Just what I was wondering, Gnomad. How do they know whether I am reading slowly or being 'idle' (leaving aside the possibility that I might be very busy nearby while they think I am doing nothing).

Or can they tell when my computer is switched off? I turned it off last night with the mudcat page in place, which was still up when I turned it on again this morning. Is that what 'idle' means?


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: GUEST,Big Norman Voice
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 05:45 AM

Another gimmick


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 05:49 AM

Reading and writing refer to accessing files. Idle would be logged in and not logged out.


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: maeve
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 05:54 AM

Will, when I am reading and I refresh the page the tally does change.


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 05:59 AM

O dear... secret's out... now everybody'll KNOW...

I just stay logged in, and tend to leave the Mudcat page open in my browser as one of several tabs, which makes me "idle" 99% of the time.

The stats keep dis-&-reappearing on my screen too. They're out to lunch at the moment so I can't check (which I just tried to do) but are there really only 86 - or whatever it was - people who stay logged in all the time?


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 06:04 AM

Woops! 85 now. Somebody... just... logged... Oouuuuuuut...


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 06:07 AM

If it only counts 'logged in' or 'logged out' as idle, does that mean it only counts members, and not guests? That would make the stats pretty meaningless.


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: BrooklynJay
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 06:13 AM

I see it occasionally, but not constantly. Sometimes on the home page, sometimes on the threads I'm perusing. But it's too obtrusive, IMO. If one has to have it, why not just confine it to the home page?

Jay


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: SteveMansfield
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 07:34 AM

Well I seem to be in the minority, as I think it's quite interesting to know what the volume of traffic is.

But if I'm editing a response to a post in one Chrome tab, whilst I've got three other threads open in other tabs that I've either read or am about to read ... am I recorded as one visitor or four? And (as others have mentioned) how long does a page sit open befoire it becomes idle?

I'm currently composing a thread simultaneously praising fRoots, Bellowhead, Show Of Hands, Mike Harding's radio programme, and the 1953 definition, just to see if the usage spike is noticeable :)

And +1 for the idea of distinguishing between logged-in users and guests.


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 06:01 PM

Looks like the stats are displayed in the yellow "news" box that has been at Mudcat for a long time. I didn't see the stats box yesterday, but I'm seeing it quite frequently today. I don't know if it's set to display constantly, or intermittently. I think the latter.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 06:07 PM

we have it on another site & it's fun to realise that someone, somewhere is also looking at stuff when I am!

Are they in my time zone, are they half the world away, are they on the opposite side of the world ...

wot fun!


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 07:10 PM

If you go to "messages since last visit" you can pretty well judge who the counter...counts... as active. I suppose there's a time past which if you are still logged in but not posting, it calls you 'idle'.


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: Acme
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 07:58 PM

Reload the page if you don't see the stats in the random link window. They turn up often.

Is this why that web site (can't remember the name, but I see it on the bottom of the page) regularly pings the page? I looked it up a while back, one time when I caught the name. Better Privacy notices cookies from it in Firefox.

SRS


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 08:21 PM

Here's the Chartbeat web site. I figure the answers to most of our questions—like what's the difference between "reading" and "idle"—must be there someplace, but I haven't found them yet.


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 08:31 PM

"idle" are probably those who have left their computer screen keyed to Mudcat but have gone to the bathroom, are walking the dog, answering their cellphone, dozed off, or all the range of things one can do rather than access a thread to read or compose a witty post.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: Leadfingers
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 09:00 PM

27 - 3 - 103 just now ¬¬


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 19 Jan 11 - 09:08 PM

Here's a page called Understanding what chartbeat is measuring.

Here is a quote from Chartbeat's FAQ page:

How are reading and writing measured?

Chartbeat is able to measure not just when someone clicks on and off your page but also what they are doing on that page.

'Reading' means that the user is actively engaging with your content and this is calculated by using a combination of metrics including scrolling and mouse movement.

'Writing' takes those visitors that fall into the 'reading' category of those actively engaged with the content of your site and measures whether they are using their keyboard (for example to write a comment or search for something).

'Idle' visitors comprise the remainder of your visitors, they might have opened your page in a tab but be working on something else right now.


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 20 Jan 11 - 12:29 AM

Seeing as how they ping you all the time and I block all that stuff, I will not register according to their system, but just stuff up the figures.


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: Max
Date: 28 Aug 11 - 09:38 PM


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: Sandra in Sydney
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 01:53 AM

very kewl!


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: DrugCrazed
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 05:59 PM

This is madness. It is possibly also Sparta.


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Subject: RE: Tech: New kewl stats stuff on Mudcat?
From: Effsee
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 09:34 PM

Kewl...ffs, what's wrong with the real word? It doesn't even save typing the letters!


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