Tech: Copyright Rules According to YouTube

Subject: Tech: Copyright Rules According to YouTube
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 15 Apr 11 - 07:00 PM

Copyright School from You Tube

"By Athima Chansanchai

Under pressure from litigious lawyers representing the film, TV and music industries, Google is cracking down on copyright infringement and laying out more precautions to try to ensure that its hundreds of millions of YouTube users comply within legal boundaries."

A "training vidio" is available at the link above, and another link says it goes to a "test you might have to take to get back on" if a complaint about one of your posts results in a "suspension of access" to YouTube.

The article at msnbc (the link above) is fairly brief, but gives a link to the YouTube "Copyright Center" for more detailed information that may be of interest to some our people.

John

Subject: RE: Tech: Copyright Rules According to YouTube
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 17 Apr 11 - 04:51 PM

Refresh.

Subject: RE: Tech: Copyright Rules According to YouTube
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 17 Apr 11 - 04:54 PM

There are three or maybe more issues here. I immediately see:

What IS the copyright law?

Bearing in mind that copyright is jurisdictional and so differs in each jurisdiction WHICH copyright law?

What SHOULD copyright law be?

Subject: RE: Tech: Copyright Rules According to YouTube
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 17 Apr 11 - 07:20 PM

I don't think the YouTube bit will answer the big questions, and doesn't say a lot about the variabilities in the laws, but the little video and "training program" bits are "campy enough" to be sort of cute.

With the number of people we have posting (and swiping?) YouTube videos, it should be interesting to have some idea of how YT is trying to confuse the situation(?).

For those who haven't been interested enough to check out the link, there is a short embedded (doesn't take you elsewhere) video at the top of the page that the article (poorly) presents as an example of "fair use" as Google sees it. This part is sort of confusing because the explanation is, as I think the YT users might describe it, "totally lame."

A second embedded video is described as "the training video that offenders will be required to view" if a (perceived by YouTube) infraction causes removal of a post. There's also a link to a "test" that might be required.

The real message, assuming there is one, is an encouragement for people to post more original videos using their own original music. (I think.)

John

Subject: RE: Tech: Copyright Rules According to YouTube
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 17 Apr 11 - 07:40 PM

We just post our own performances, generally of original or trad material. Though I have posted performances by friends, too, with their permission. I've also posted some of our performances of songs by other people, again, with their permission, when I could get it.

Subject: RE: Tech: Copyright Rules According to YouTube
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 17 Apr 11 - 08:30 PM

"Bearing in mind that copyright is jurisdictional and so differs in each jurisdiction WHICH copyright law?"

This is an interesting point here in Australia. We used to have our own - but under political US pressure, we signed an agreement that we would 'respect the US Law'... pity they don't respect ours as a certain Mr Hicks would say if he hadn't been legally gagged....

It's even more ironic, especially now that the US is annoyed with China for 'not respecting US copyright'. Some time ago, the US refused to acknowledge UK copyright, which is why Charles Dickens had to travel personally to the USA for a 'speaking tour' to read his own work, because US publishers were ripping off his royalties by printing US versions of his UK copyrighted big selling books...

Australia ruled that the cosy publisher deals that forbade imports of books according to mumbo jumbo that said that certain editions could not be imported in to Australia was an illegal restriction of trade here.