Lyr Req: Remember Me (When the Candle...(Wiseman)

Subject: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: D.Cavin
Date: 15 Sep 99 - 10:07 AM

I remember attending a workshop at Mariposa back in the early '70s at which a number of performers sang a song which I took to be a Carter Family song called "Remember Me". At the time, I assumed this was written by A.P. but have since learned that it was not.The workshop was on the Carter Family's songs. At any rate, I am searching for the lyrics to one of the verses,the last two lines of which are: "But in the end,fairweather friends will break your heart dear; and when they do, sweetheart, remember me". I found a version of the song on the net,but that verse was not there. Can anyone help me in this quest?

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: Gene
Date: 15 Sep 99 - 10:33 AM

REMEMBER ME (When The Candlelights Are Gleaming)
was the theme song for T. Texas Tyler
Penned by SCOTTY WISEMAN of Lulu Belle & Scotty duo

Subject: Lyr Add: REMEMBER ME (Scotty Wiseman)
From: Dale Rose
Date: 15 Sep 99 - 10:50 AM

Remember Me is a Scotty Wiseman song. He was half of the well known singing duo, Lulu Belle and Scotty. Last weekend I was privileged to hear Ruth McLain Smith sing this with the Grandpa Jones Band at the Ozark Folk Center in Mountain View, Arkansas. Over the years there have been many great versions, Lulu Belle and Scotty themselves, T Texas Tyler, on and on ~~ but I have to rate Ruth's version right up there with the best.

I have several versions, including the Wisemans (available on The Sweethearts of Country Music, Starday CD 206, re released in 1991) ~~ here it is

Remember Me
Scott Wiseman (as sung by Lulu Belle and Scotty)

The sweetest songs belong to lovers in the gloaming
The sweetest days were the days that used to be
The saddest words I ever heard were words of parting
When you said, "Sweetheart, Remember Me"

chorus
Remember me, when the candle lights are gleaming
Remember me at the close of a long, long day
It would be so sweet when all alone I'm dreaming
Just to know you still remember me

You told me once that you were mine alone forever
And I was yours 'til end of eternity
But all our vows are broken now and you will never
Be the same except in memory

chorus

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: Dale Rose
Date: 15 Sep 99 - 10:56 AM

Uhh, it's in the DT as done by Willie Nelson, posted by Mr. GG, with an additonal verse. Don't know as I ever heard that one.

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: Gene
Date: 15 Sep 99 - 10:58 AM

A brighter face may take your place when we're apart, dear
A sweeter smile, a love more bold than me
But in the end, fair weather friends will break your heart, dear
If they do, sweetheart, remember me.

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: Dale Rose
Date: 15 Sep 99 - 11:05 AM

Well, Gene, that one sure belongs, but for whatever reason, Lulu Belle and Scotty did not sing it on the version I have! I knew it seemed short. Shoulda checked the T Texas Tyler, I guess.

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: Gene
Date: 15 Sep 99 - 11:24 AM

FWIW:
Scott(y) stated that he wrote the song in 1939
and the Title was taken from a sentimental memento
of the Gay Nineties, a fancy cup and saucer with
Gold lettering, 'REMEMBER ME', on it; a souvenir
somehow connected to the courtship of his Mother and
Dad. The children were never allowed to touch it.
He wrote it, while feeling a bit homesick and
sentimental during the road trips between radio
shows and personal appearances.
The lyrics were not intended to apply to any
particular person.

REF:
Sing Your Heart Out Country Boy by Dorothy Horstman

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 15 Sep 99 - 12:39 PM

I heard that last verse as:

Another face may take my place when we're apart, dear,
A sweeter smile, and a love more bold and free.
But, in the end, fair-weather friends may break your heart, dear.

If they do, Sweetheart, remember me.

Scotty used to order records from Folk-Legacy. Mostly stuff we'd collected in North Carolina. Made me feel real good!

Sandy

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: M. Ted (inactive)
Date: 15 Sep 99 - 01:04 PM

I think my memory might be better than some of the others on this verse:

A brighter face may take my place
When we're apart, dear
Another love,
With heart more bold and true
But in the end, fair weather friends
May break your heart, dear
And when they do,
Sweetheart, Remember me.

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 15 Sep 99 - 02:57 PM

All of us appear to be unintentionally "folk processing" Scotty's song. Anyone have the original sheet music?

Sandy

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: Dale Rose
Date: 15 Sep 99 - 03:11 PM

Checking the lyrics on the video tape of the Grandpa Jones tribute, Ruth McLain Smith sings bold and free, so I'll have to vote with Sandy on this one.

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: Stewie
Date: 16 Sep 99 - 01:37 AM

On his 1975 'Saturday Night in the Provinces' album, Bill Spence sings 'bold and free', but that is hardly surprising since he noted that he got his version from Sandy! '... one of the all-time great sentimental songs. I originally fell in love with it while singing along with Sandy Paton while he and Caroline were performing at Caffe Lena. The version here is a combination of Sandy's and the original sheet music, plus my own folk processing'.

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: M. Ted (inactive)
Date: 16 Sep 99 - 01:58 AM

I vote "Bold and Free"--I mis-typed and didn't proof! Sorry for the confusion!

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From:
Date: 16 Sep 99 - 10:24 AM

Many,many thanks, all of you! Gene's note was especially helpful....that's the verse I remember,now, after all theese years (!) Again, thank you all and Cheers Don C.

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: Gene
Date: 16 Sep 99 - 10:42 AM

The recorded lyrics are OFTEN ...
NOT EXACTLY the same as the ORIGINAL lyrics
and vary from recording to recording...

I think the verse I posted was quoted
from the ORIGINAL copyrighted lyrics...
in the cited SOURCE.

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: M. Ted (inactive)
Date: 16 Sep 99 - 11:24 AM

Good point here. Gene--We sort of take for granted that, even though the "Folk songs" we know may have many variations in melody and verse, that there is a definitive version of every "composed" song--

I have spent a lot of time lately studying Ira Gershwin's lyrics lately, and many of the songs had additional lyrics written for different shows, lyrics changed for recordings, and lyrics deleted for television-- and in a number of cases, the origninal lyrics that he wrote were never used intact any where--

In today's "Music Market" most people are exposed to only one recording of a song, and it leads people to assume that that "popular" version is the only version, that it was written by the performer, and that it is recent in origin--

My sixteen year old daughter was stunned beyond words when I played her an old recording of "I'll Fly Away", because she thought that it was just part of a Rap record--

Subject: Lyr Add: REMEMBER ME (WHEN THE CANDLE LIGHTS ...)
From: Gene
Date: 17 Sep 99 - 03:25 PM

Following lyrics transcribed from listed source.

REMEMBER ME
(WHEN THE CANDLE LIGHTS ARE GLEAMING)
Recorded by: Lulu Belle and Scotty (Wiseman)
Writer: Scotty Wiseman

The sweetest songs belong to lovers in the gloaming
The sweetest days are the days that used to be
The saddest words I ever heard were words of parting
When you said "Sweetheart, remember me."

CHORUS
Remember me when the candle lights are gleaming
Remember me at the close of a long, long day
It would be so sweet when all alone I'm dreaming
Just to know you still remember me.

You told me once that you were mine alone, forever
And I was yours 'til the end of eternity
But all our vows are broken now and you will never
Be the same, except in memory.

CHORUS

A fairer face will take your place when we're apart, dear
A sweeter smile, and a love more bold and free
But in the end, fair weather friends may break your heart, dear
If they do, sweetheart, remember me.

CHORUS

SOURCE:
THE SMITHSONIAN COLLECTION
OF CLASSIC COUNTRY MUSIC
RO25 P8 15640

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: Sandy Paton
Date: 17 Sep 99 - 09:39 PM

Good show, Gene! Now I'll have to adjust my memory to accept the changes in the first line of the last verse. The rest is as I know it.

Stewie: Caroline and I are at Lena's again tomorrow night, with Bob Franke and Sally Rogers. Special program for the New York Historical Society. You gonna sneak in? If you're there, identify yourself with the secret Mudcat handshake and password! We'll swap a few memories.

Sandy

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: Gene
Date: 18 Sep 99 - 01:54 PM

You can DOWNLOAD/PLAY temporarily: -

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Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: Allan S.
Date: 19 Sep 99 - 11:12 AM

Still looking for a GOOD tape or CD with this on it. I understand that it was on the following [The Hits of T. Texas Tyler Capitol ST 2344] [Lu Lu Bell and Scotty Wiseman, Starday206] Starday was owned by Gusto Records, Are these still avalable?? Or are they on any CD or Cassette by the above singers?? Allan S.

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: Arkie
Date: 19 Sep 99 - 03:09 PM

The Lulu Belle & Scotty recordings are available on CD & cassette. Gusto now does business as IMG and the T.Texas Tyler version is available on a CD recently released through Collector's Choice Music, 800-923-1122 or www.ccmusic.com if you want to look them up on the internet. I can get an address and phone number for IMG when I get back to my office.

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: GUEST,maria
Date: 04 Mar 03 - 10:06 PM

hello!

i just love this song, and i'm looking for the chords for it. can someone help me? i can't find it on shops here, because i live in brazil and this song is nor known down here. so, i'm lost....

thank you
maria

Subject: RE: lyrics to 'Remember Me'(When the candle
From: CRANKY YANKEE
Date: 04 Mar 03 - 11:09 PM

When I went through Basic training in the Air Force at Lackland AFB, San Antonio, Tex.,in Dec 1947, T. Texas Tyler's record is what got us out of bed in the Morning. Our Drill Instructor used to play it over the louspeaker in the barracks.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Remember Me (When the Candle...(Wiseman)
From: BrooklynJay
Date: 07 Dec 10 - 04:23 PM

The original lyrics posted above should be added to the DT.

What's currently there was taken from a Willie Nelson recording and varies a great deal from what was originally written.

I first heard this song in the early '60s, recorded by the Limeliters (with Ernie Sheldon/Lieberman replacing Glenn Yarbrough). Their version was very close to what Scott Wiseman wrote, though I think they put an extra chorus at the beginning before the first verse and they sang "brighter" instead of "fairer" in the final verse.

No matter - it's a great song and is still one of my favorites.

Anyone have the chords?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Remember Me (When the Candle...(Wiseman)
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Oct 18 - 10:09 AM

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Remember Me (When the Candle...(Wiseman)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 11 Jan 21 - 04:47 PM

refresh - well sung by Leeneia at the singaround. Any corrections or additions?

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Remember Me (When the Candle...(Wiseman)
From: leeneia
Date: 12 Jan 21 - 05:02 PM

Thanks, Joe. I learned the song from a YouTube video with Scot Wiseman, the composer, and Lulu Belle. I don't think you can beat that for accuracy. The same lines have been posted here by Gene, above, in 1999.

I prepared the sheet music, and I don't think I've ever seen that many incidentals in a traditional song before. I've transposed it to G to suit my voice, and the finished song includes F#, F, D, D#, A and A# in it.

Oh. I did make one change. The original did not go "nya nya nya nya NYA nyaaa" in the third verse.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Remember Me (When the Candle...(Wiseman)
From: GUEST,Hootenanny
Date: 13 Jan 21 - 06:38 AM

Here's a nice relaxed version of this golden oldie caught at a pub session in London

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuJF__FNY5o

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Remember Me (When the Candle...(Wiseman)
From: leeneia
Date: 15 Jan 21 - 10:15 AM

Thanks for the link, Hootenanny. It's a good performance. Nice mandolin improvisation.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Remember Me (When the Candle...(Wiseman)
From: Stewart
Date: 16 Jan 21 - 12:41 PM

An old favorite. I learned this song as a kid in the early 1950s listening to the Grand Ole Opry with my Dad on Saturday night radio.

S. in Seattle

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Remember Me (When the Candle...(Wiseman)
From: leeneia
Date: 17 Jan 21 - 04:29 PM

Nice memory, Stewart.