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BS: New York state legalizing gay marriage

DMcG 25 Jun 11 - 08:01 AM
GUEST,livelylass 25 Jun 11 - 07:42 AM
DrugCrazed 25 Jun 11 - 07:12 AM
McGrath of Harlow 25 Jun 11 - 05:16 AM
DMcG 25 Jun 11 - 05:14 AM
bubblyrat 25 Jun 11 - 04:54 AM
Desert Dancer 25 Jun 11 - 02:17 AM
Amos 25 Jun 11 - 01:24 AM
katlaughing 25 Jun 11 - 12:33 AM
Desert Dancer 24 Jun 11 - 11:46 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: New York state legalizing gay marriage
From: DMcG
Date: 25 Jun 11 - 08:01 AM

... I'll never marry

This is NOT a comment on your decision, but in most countries, and certainly in the UK, 'marriage' is a mixture of two entirely different things. One is the social/religous aspect, with its historically unbalanced relationship between the male and female partners. By and large it is this people object to. But, and importantly, there is the relationship between the partners and the law, and there a huge number of things like pension and inheritance rights that do not apply unless you are married. So anyone who chooses not to marry would be well advised to spend a lot or time (and money) with a good lawyer making sure all of this is sorted. It needs to said again and again that currently living as partners does not bestow any legal rights (UK) to, for example, inheritance. It is reviewed occasionally but I believe the situation has not changed recently.


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Subject: RE: BS: New York state legalizing gay marriage
From: GUEST,livelylass
Date: 25 Jun 11 - 07:42 AM

Though I can never understand why *anyone* be they gay or straight, would want to undergo a Christian religious ceremony, unless a practicing Christian and believer. As a non-believer (eg: I don't believe that god is simultaneously all good, omnipotent and omniscient or indeed that sodomy is a sin for example) I'll never marry.


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Subject: RE: BS: New York state legalizing gay marriage
From: DrugCrazed
Date: 25 Jun 11 - 07:12 AM

I'm quite glad about this gay marriage thing.

Or as I like to call it, marriage.


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Subject: RE: BS: New York state legalizing gay marriage
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 25 Jun 11 - 05:16 AM

So there'll be an interesting linguistic variation between the definition of the word in New York and elsewhere...


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Subject: RE: BS: New York state legalizing gay marriage
From: DMcG
Date: 25 Jun 11 - 05:14 AM

Another nail in the coffin of decent,civilised ,Christian behaviour .

Speaking as a practising Christian, and a Roman Catholic one at that, I don't see that. We don't have to get into an exchange of biblical quotations here, since we (and I guess most readers of this thread) will be pretty familiar with them already. But to me allowing gay union is much more in accord with the Christian message than to refuse a committed partner the right to be recognised *by the law*. And be clear: we are talking about the relationship between individuals and the state here, not religion.


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Subject: RE: BS: New York state legalizing gay marriage
From: bubblyrat
Date: 25 Jun 11 - 04:54 AM

Another nail in the coffin of decent,civilised ,Christian behaviour .

What next , I wonder ?? Is nothing sacred any more ??


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Subject: RE: BS: New York state legalizing gay marriage
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 25 Jun 11 - 02:17 AM

The governor did sign it into law tonight!

NY Times article

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: BS: New York state legalizing gay marriage
From: Amos
Date: 25 Jun 11 - 01:24 AM

Three cheers at last for the NY Legislature--especially the brave four Republicans who had the nerve to buck the party line.


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Subject: RE: BS: New York state legalizing gay marriage
From: katlaughing
Date: 25 Jun 11 - 12:33 AM

YES!!!


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Subject: BS: New York state legalizing gay marriage
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 24 Jun 11 - 11:46 PM

Yaaaayyyyy!!!! Gay marriage is being legalized in NY state!

The New York bill cleared the Republican-controlled state Senate on a 33-29 vote. The Democrat-led Assembly, which passed a different version last week, is expected to pass the new version with stronger religious exemptions and Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who campaigned on the issue last year, has promised to sign it. Same-sex couples can begin marrying begin 30 days after that.

The A.P. story.

~ Becky in Tucson


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