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People who talk during concerts
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Richard Bridge Date: 30 Jun 11 - 04:14 PM Aren't rule makers self important too? Do you doff your cap to your betters on the polo-field too Bozo? |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Bonzo3legs Date: 30 Jun 11 - 04:05 PM People like John P are rule makers - good job we take no notice. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link Date: 30 Jun 11 - 03:43 PM i recently had the unexpected experience of near everyone singing along and clapping to the chorus of the song i,m best known for in my small corner of the music world.i took it as a great compliment. by contrast at the next bar elsewhere ,i seemed to get indifference. both are humbling in opposite ways. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: GUEST,mg Date: 30 Jun 11 - 03:42 PM I personally would never knowingly attend a concert where audience could not chime in on the chorus. I would consider the owner of that attitude just too self-important or whatever for me to want to see her. mg |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Bonzo3legs Date: 30 Jun 11 - 03:02 PM "Singing along uninvited during a concert is always rude, chorus or no. Do you really think everyone came there to hear you? If you don't want the musicians to make that decision, keep to sing-a-rounds and sessions where the musicians haven't gone to some trouble to prepare a song for performance. At least make sure you know the acceptable local behavior. Assuming that a folk song SHOULD be sung along with because it's a folk song is failing to recognize that folk songs often get played these days in places that are not community singing opportunities." Really??? |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: John P Date: 30 Jun 11 - 02:22 PM Anyone who expects silence from an audience that's been drinking needs to be in a different line of work, or a different venue. Singing along uninvited during a concert is always rude, chorus or no. Do you really think everyone came there to hear you? If you don't want the musicians to make that decision, keep to sing-a-rounds and sessions where the musicians haven't gone to some trouble to prepare a song for performance. At least make sure you know the acceptable local behavior. Assuming that a folk song SHOULD be sung along with because it's a folk song is failing to recognize that folk songs often get played these days in places that are not community singing opportunities. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Bonzo3legs Date: 30 Jun 11 - 11:19 AM What about the noise of a cassette being changed in a recording walkman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: ripov Date: 30 Jun 11 - 11:09 AM definitely a hierarchy here:- concert - total hush (you're all here to listen) folk club - whisper (you can say it after, or next week) singaround - maybe you won't see your friend for another 3 months, but go outside to natter (I'm often guilty on this one - sorry MBoy) pub gig - don't expect them all to listen, some are only there to get drunk. session - just pray that the punters aren't making so much noise that you can't hear the other players. And try to avoid cup final nights. And make sure your own phone's off before you cuss someone else! |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: The Sandman Date: 30 Jun 11 - 06:35 AM well said shimrod. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: GUEST,Shimrod Date: 30 Jun 11 - 06:07 AM Actually I hate mobile phones in any public space - let alone concerts! Anyone who fails to switch their phone off at a concert should be hung on a gibbet, somewhere near the stage, and left there as an object lesson to the rest! Mobile phones should also be banned on public transport (as I believe they are in Japan). If anyone reading this is in the habit of conducting trivial conversations with your equally moronic mates, at the top of your voice, whilst travelling on the bus or train - be warned - I might be sitting behind you and the 'red mist' could come down and when it clears you could be lying in the aisle choking on your f*cking phone! Of course, I might have to spend some locked up in a 'secure institution' - but it would be worth it!! |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: GUEST,Chris B (Born Again Scouser) Date: 30 Jun 11 - 04:55 AM I dunno. Does Ralph McTell invite people to join in the chorus when he plays 'Streets Of London'? Because most people do. Can't say it's ever spoiled my enjoyment of it. I think joining in choruses (and the clue lies in the word 'chorus') is a different matter from talking during a performance or trying to 'improve' a performance by singing 'harmonies' through a song. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: stallion Date: 30 Jun 11 - 03:26 AM can't see the not joining in on the chorus bit, isn't the joining in bit what it is all about, what makes it different?. At our local session people come for a sing and it takes them quite a long time to learn songs so they want to sing the same songs, I am acutely aware that they have not come to listen to me! Also, in a non concert environment people are having a night out with friends and you cannot expect them to sit around tight lipped so, daunting as it might be for some, you just gotta belt it out and hope enough people join in to drown out the chat. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Gurney Date: 30 Jun 11 - 02:50 AM Er... That's ego-trippers who think that they own a song, chorus and all. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Gurney Date: 30 Jun 11 - 02:18 AM Sorry to the people who think that the audience shouldn't sing the chorus, but the chorus IS the audience's part to sing, even when it isn't really a folk song. Check the definition! Anyone who doesn't want the audience to sing along, they should sing songs that don't have a chorus. I appreciate that there are ego-trippers like that. Bad luck. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: GUEST,Guest - LIn Date: 30 Jun 11 - 01:57 AM Yes, it is unfortunate that even at folk/acoustic concerts there are some rude and inconsiderate of others in attendance. My pet peeves: 1. Loud and inconsiderate people who talk loud and especially those who just cannot refrain from talking loud on their cell phones while the performer is on the stage. It just seems that people cannot be without their cell phones no matter what. I just think it is so rude to talk when a folk/acoustic performer is singing. 2. People who sing-along to the performer's song (when the performer) has not asked for the audience to participate and sing on that song. It actually is very inconsiderate of those around who want to hear the performer only!! If the singer asks for a sing-a-long then that's different. 3. People who stand up in front of you when most people are sitting. Some people are physically unable to stand at a concert and therefore when someone stands up, and stays standing, it makes it difficult for other's to enjoy the concert. I'm not even talking about someone in a wheelchair (who cannot stand at all) but even other people who cannot stand up at a concert. These days I mostly just attend house concerts where you don't find these kind of problems. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: PHJim Date: 30 Jun 11 - 01:56 AM I recall attending a concert by a well-known Canadian performer - soft seat, not a bar - when a cell phone rang. The owner answered the phone and said,"Hello." The performer asked,"Could I speak to your friend?" The owner of the phone, probably thinking that his friend would like to talk to a celebrity, handed the phone over. The performer said into the phone,"He's at a concert and will call you back." He then said something like,"Since you don't know enough to turn off your phone at a concert, I'll do it for you. Come and get it back at the end of the night." The audience applauded. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Soldier boy Date: 29 Jun 11 - 09:46 PM Fair enough Peter, but I'm glad I 'aint in the US! Sounds pretty sad to me! |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Midchuck Date: 29 Jun 11 - 09:39 PM ...you could always arrange concerts without bars that sell alcohol and join The Sons of Temperance and nurse a half pint of warm Cola through a three hour concert... ...Welcome to the US! Peter |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Soldier boy Date: 29 Jun 11 - 09:19 PM I once got a really big SUSH and seriously glared at by a group of folk for apparently ordering my beer too loudly at the bar in the Rowing club at Durham during The Durham Folk Party weekend and they made me feel like an unwelcomed little moron who had invaded their private party. The bartender didn't hear my order first time because I had tried to whisper it and he couldn't hear me over the chorus everyone was joining in with so I had to raise my voice a little. This wasn't a concert, it was a very formal singaround and it was a free event, but I have also seen similar problems in local folk clubs and at paying concerts at folk festivals all over this land where the concert room had a bar. All I am saying is that we need a little bit of give and take here boys and girls. We all know that the more people drink, the louder they get, so we should expect it and learn to tolerate it and take it in our stride and just handle it. Failing that, you could always arrange concerts without bars that sell alcohol and join The Sons of Temperance and nurse a half pint of warm Cola through a three hour concert and then ask the venue owners if it had been worth it for them! It's a difficult mix to get right! Cheers Chris |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: skipy Date: 29 Jun 11 - 08:19 PM Beware Troll! |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: GUEST Date: 29 Jun 11 - 08:00 PM
RE:expected that people are going to sit and listen.
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: bruceCMR Date: 29 Jun 11 - 06:58 PM Re telephones ringing, I remember watching a snooker match on TV. At a key point in the game, someone's phone rang, shattering the silence for the second or third time. The referee turned round to the audience, looked at the guy and said "Go on, answer it. Tell them you're on your way home..." |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Rumncoke Date: 29 Jun 11 - 06:50 PM There would be a special place in Hell for all those who yatter when others are trying to listen - if I had anything to do with it. It would be double booked with a beginner bagpipe workshop where the tutor was perpetually late and no one had a tuner. Anne Croucher :ootd: |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: skipy Date: 29 Jun 11 - 05:39 PM In a lot of cases organisers work for a lot less than nothing! By not claiming any form of expences at all to keep ticket & door prices as low as possible to make sure there is a good enough crowd at an event to make the event work. Also by leaving whatever "profit" a festival makes in the festival fund to buy in the best that can be afforded the next year. Artists as well have worked for me for a lot less than they could be paid at other festivals to keep it going. Skipy |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: GUEST,mg Date: 29 Jun 11 - 05:30 PM I totally understand why they talk at bar performances and at open air events..like Folklife... It should be a job of the M.C. to say what expectations are and how far away to move if you want to carry on a conversation. At a concert I would assume silence, butthe M.C. should ask people to turn off cell phones and not talk except during intermissions. Never heard of anyone not like toe tapping before though. It has never bothered me. What if you tried to stop that in Quebec? mg |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Dave MacKenzie Date: 29 Jun 11 - 05:24 PM What sign should you use if humour is not intended? |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Arthur_itus Date: 29 Jun 11 - 04:01 PM Ah OK You should have added a :-) Then I would have seen that humour was intended. :-) So aplogies from me for misjudging you. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: The Sandman Date: 29 Jun 11 - 03:55 PM arthuritis, it was an attempt at a joke,i agree rather a poor joke, i know they work hard and I am pleased someone organises them. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: GUEST,pete from seven stars link Date: 29 Jun 11 - 03:49 PM it seems to me that different clubs have different ethos.often at one club,no-one seems to listen,and talk.this may be dislike or familiarity or just the way it is.however,if someone new and outstanding performs, talk tends to subside.it is just the same at open mics i,ve played at,and i can get either response.there are thankfully folk and open mics that do value the performer,even those less experienced.so if it comes to a choice;which will win my support?! |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: GUEST,999 Date: 29 Jun 11 - 03:33 PM I figured by now someone would have suggested asking politely for the talkers to please be quiet. I've done that a few times and it works. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: GUEST,PeterC Date: 29 Jun 11 - 03:26 PM Cue now for another thread on how dreadful folk clubs are for expecting people to keep quiet during the performance. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Arthur_itus Date: 29 Jun 11 - 02:18 PM What do you mean by "folk festival organisers" GSS. Is that a knock becuase they don't invite you? Folk festival organisers work very very hard to provide entertainment for the folk world, very often, just for expenses or sometimes for nothing. I find you comments to FFO offensive to say the least. I hope they never book you in the future. Maybe I have misunderstood you, in which case I will duly apologise, if you can explain your comment. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: The Sandman Date: 29 Jun 11 - 12:51 PM good on ya Liszt matey, f### all these control freaks, whether they be emperors or folk festival organisers, or just plain ignorant people who believe music is wall paper. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: GUEST,Grishka Date: 29 Jun 11 - 12:08 PM Stevi, > what can you do If you happen do be something like Franz Liszt, do as he did, according to Siloti's memoirs 1920: Liszt and Czar Nicholas I |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: GUEST,David E. Date: 29 Jun 11 - 10:57 AM So it sounds like ninety-nine percent of concert goers are polite and respectful and one percent are obnoxious and ruin the experience for the rest of us. A lot like life itself isn't it? Thanks again for the posts, I was beginning to despair that it was only me... David E. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Elmore Date: 29 Jun 11 - 09:09 AM This is a problem without a solution. It's been bugging me for fifty years. I used to try to stare offenders into quietude. In recent years that has proven to be too subtle. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Midchuck Date: 29 Jun 11 - 09:07 AM Take the phone away from him. Stamp it into fragments. Ram the jagged fragments up his... Oh, sorry. I feel strongly about this matter and sometimes get carried away. Peter |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: stevi Date: 29 Jun 11 - 08:52 AM Not a concert but at my session the other night one guys phone rang not once but again 10 mins later 3 times infact! He had a few drinks down him but just carried on talking on it through the playing regardless. Bl..dy annoying but what can you do. Stevi |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: jacqui.c Date: 29 Jun 11 - 08:25 AM I, too, cannot understand why people go to musical events and want to spend their time talking. I go to music events to listen to the music and find it annoying when someone in the group wants to chat at me while a singer is performing. Even if I don't respond they will quite often keep going and have to be shushed to shut them up. At Old Songs this last weekend, during one of the workshops, there were a couple of people behind me who were droning on while one of the performers was talking about the song they were about to sing. I did my usual - turned round and glared - and they shut up. At an open air concert featuring Jose Carreras a group near me were chatting through the opening number by a choir (The Chorus Of The Hebrew Slaves)and I tried to ignore them but when they continued to chat while the great man (IMHO) was performing I just told them that I had paid to listen to the music, not them. Sometimes one needs to be a bit rude to shut rude people up - just fighting fire with fire. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Charley Noble Date: 29 Jun 11 - 08:16 AM "what about the people who fart at concerts"? If they fart in harmony, that's fine with me. Otherwise they should be exorcized. Charley Noble |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: The Sandman Date: 29 Jun 11 - 08:05 AM and what about the people who fart at concerts. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: melodeonboy Date: 29 Jun 11 - 05:51 AM I've noticed people in singarounds who like attention when they're performing, but then natter, albeit quietly for the most part, when someone else is performing. On a related matter, at a gig with my (fairly noisy!) zydeco band at a pub in Whitstable last year, there was a bunch of blokes who stood near the band and right in front of one of the speakers. They (and one bloke in particular) talked all the way through the gig, and didn't applaud or even recognise the existence of the band. It didn't affect the gig much, as the PA was louder than their voices, but it just seemed curious to me that they decided to stand there rather than in other parts of the pub which were much quieter and, presumably, more suited to conversation. And, blow me, at a gig later the same year at the same venue, the talkative one was back again in exactly the same place and did the same again! It's beyond my ken! |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Ana Date: 29 Jun 11 - 05:15 AM I hate it when people tap to a tune (doesn't necessarily equate to tapping in time) especially if it means they are jiggling coins or kicking the back of my chair. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 29 Jun 11 - 05:02 AM Out of interest, has a promoter ever had to refund the majority of an audience because of the disruptive behaviour of a minority? |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Richard Bridge Date: 29 Jun 11 - 05:01 AM I am rather taken by the "rights of admission are reserved" approach, pursuant to which organisers would eject braying jackasses. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 29 Jun 11 - 04:54 AM I remember one night at the Player's Theatre when the hospitality brigade were getting louder by the minute - Jan Hunt was on stage and let rip with a well paced - well projected "OH SHUT UP". That got the best applause of the evening. Trouble is the hospitalities - obvious overpaid bankers or that ilk were too stupid to realise it was directed at them , and carried on regardless. No wonder the economy is in a mess!!! |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: open mike Date: 29 Jun 11 - 12:13 AM i always love it when a performer invites the audience to sing along.. but it is not appropriate unless invited to do so.. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Neil D Date: 28 Jun 11 - 10:32 PM Here's a twist on the subject, performers who talk during concerts. I went to see a well known Zydeco performer last summer and he wouldn't shut up. I don't mean just introducing songs and an occasional anecdote, but 5 minutes of idle chit chat after every song. He spent more time talking than playing, literally. |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Effsee Date: 28 Jun 11 - 10:19 PM As a promoter of a concert who refunded £48 to 4 people at half time in a concert, just to get rid of one of them, who came to me during the interval and complained that an adjacent table had asked her to shut up during the performance, and argued that, "No you hadn't", when I told her that she was clearly audible across 50 feet of the room where I was standing, and that I had heard her...I know where you're coming from! Pure bloody ignorance, inconsideration...and why TF come to the concert in the first place if they don't want to listen? |
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Subject: RE: People who talk during concerts From: Richard Bridge Date: 28 Jun 11 - 09:00 PM I'm all for singing along, as part of "folk" and "folk-alike". |
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