BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: gnu
Date: 16 Sep 11 - 12:58 PM

Finally heard back from EC... the wind speed on the track info at the Caunck site is sustained wind speed.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: gnu
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 01:39 PM

On the Canuck site it looks like Maria is gonna chase Katia. Good thing. Given the fact that my fingers are cold at 2:30PM I'd say this hurricane season is winding down but we'll see what happens after the full moon on Monday.

We still have humming birds (females and young) but I expect they'll take off on Monday beacuse of my cold fingers... a high of 16 today. Everything is at least two weeks early... the hummers, the bluejays, the woodpeckers... I like the cool fall weather but I hope I don't see any snowy owls soon.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Tinker
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 01:29 PM

I am slowly moving back to "normal" (even if my budget is not BG) We got a new hot water heater on Wednesday and woke up to more water on Thursday ! But the pumps kept it below the new heater.

The insurance adjuster comes to look at roofs and ceilings on Monday. The wind and pounding rain really pounded out both the slate and flat roofs.

The wood paneling in the basement is finally drying out with help from the dehumidifier and fans. Luckily the last dousing wasn't as high.
I need to get trays to use on the bottom shelves so I can pick up and move stuff on them quickly if need be.

I need a vacation --- oh wait it's almost Getaway !

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Bill D
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 11:08 AM

Sunshine! I see sunshine! 3 days of drying out my basement with fans and hanging damp rugs on the back porch...and 'almost' back to livable!

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 10:33 AM

Janie,

Fine here. There's a creek about 150 feet behind my townhouse, but its part of a larger community park that's all lower than my backyard so I'm probably OK for a while even if it does flood. Which it hasn't.

The Virginia suburbs seem to be getting the worst of it, particularly Fairfax. One of my friends is a teacher in (and lives in) Fairfax County and got at least one day off of school due to flooded roads.

-- Gary

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Janie
Date: 10 Sep 11 - 06:44 AM

Checking in on all our friends in the Northeast to see how you have/are weathering the flooding.

Hope all are safe and on high ground.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Janie
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 09:45 PM

And in central North Carolina we are watching possibilities that are not yet, and perhaps won't be, probabilities of getting weather from both Katia and Lee. Too early to tell from the southeast and from the southwest. Best we can do is keep a weather eye turned in both directions.

I don't want anyone to get flooded, but some good rain in these parts sure would be nice. Not as nice as for Stilly and the rest of Texas. Lee holds the possibility of bringing terrible bane to some places, real boon to others and a mix of both to others.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 07:36 PM

If they could spare 1 or 2 inches out west Texas way we'd be mighty obliged!

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: gnu
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 04:33 PM

15 to 20"? Holy moly!

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: beardedbruce
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 03:12 PM

Lee is now predicted to drop 15-20 inches of rain on New Orleans.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: gnu
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 03:01 PM

SINS... same way as tow of my earlier posts on other threads.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: SINSULL
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 02:37 PM

Where went my post???

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Bettynh
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 02:28 PM

NOAA has changed its mind a bit. Odds are down to 40%. Meanwhile in the Gulf, Lee has a name and it's not moving much. From the current prediction, Georgia (which needs the rain) wil be wet, eventually. Texas (which REALLY needs the rain) will mostly miss out again.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: gnu
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 01:49 PM

Bettynh... the Canuck centRe shows no such storm on it's satellite pic. That site shows a storm more to the NW and it is not being tracked.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 10:54 AM

Meanwhile, checking in from the Deep South, what will soon be Tropical Storm Lee, ruined my fishing excursion this morning. I was at Fort Pickens pier which is in Pensacola Pass, where Pensacola Bay feeds into the Gulf of Mexico. Strong winds and intermittent rain squalls ran me off after no more than 30 minutes. But, so far, the nasty stuff is not extending inland to any large extent. That'll change, I'm sure.

Current projections are for the system to move to the northeast after landfall in Louisiana, which means we'll probably get a lot of rain where I live, near the Florida/Alabama border. That's too bad for Texas. We can use the rain, but Texas is in truly desperate need of it.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Bettynh
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 10:30 AM

Meanwhile....
(From the National Hurricane Center)

SHOWER ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH A LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LOCATED ABOUT
450 MILES SOUTH OF HALIFAX NOVA SCOTIA HAS CHANGED LITTLE DURING THE
PAST SEVERAL HOURS. THIS SYSTEM IS PRODUCING WINDS OF TROPICAL
STORM FORCE...AND ONLY A SLIGHT INCREASE IN ORGANIZATION COULD
RESULT IN THE FORMATION OF A TROPICAL STORM. THIS SYSTEM HAS A HIGH
CHANCE...60 PERCENT...OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS AS IT MOVES TOWARD THE NORTHEAST AT 10 TO 15 MPH.

Yikes! We really don't need more rain.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Sep 11 - 12:34 AM

My friend, who lives in NC, sent me a picture of the pile of tree limbs it took her and her husband eight hours to clean up. Otherwise they were okay.

My grandsons' first day of school in CT was to have been Monday, then it was Wednesday, today, then Friday. It seems not all parts of the city have power yet, though, so their first day has been extended to next Tuesday. They are ecstatic, but then they also have power.

CamiSu, good thoughts about the teen hiker. May he be holed up somewhere safe and be found quickly.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Nancy King
Date: 01 Sep 11 - 11:37 PM

I arrived at my cottage in Sebago, Maine, on Monday afternoon, having hunkered down with relatives in Woodstock NY on Sunday. No damage at my place, but also no power when I arrived, and none until this evening about 6 pm. It was kind of an adventure at first, but got old really fast -- no running water, no lights, no refrigeration. Just an inconvenience, of course -- nothing compared to the devastation elsewhere.

Tami, I wondered if you'd get roped into the cleanup at Sebago Lake State Park -- which is VERY close to my cottage. No trees down on my property, but lots of branches all over everything -- I've almost finished cleaning it up. I now have several years' worth of kindling.

I am not looking forward to Katia...

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: CamiSu
Date: 01 Sep 11 - 09:37 PM

Brattleboro is missing a teenager, Marble Arvidson, age 17. He went hiking Saturday and never returned. Any info is greatly appreciated.

I like my governor.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 01 Sep 11 - 12:53 PM

Katia: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at2+shtml/024712.shtml?5-daynl

Hard to tell as yet. Hope she doesn't interfere with our Maine sailing trip in 10 days!

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Janie
Date: 31 Aug 11 - 10:23 PM

Hurricane season is always an interesting time in North Carolina, regardless of where one lives within the state. We, (as well as several other southern states,) are particularly vulnerable to tropical storms moving up from either the Gulf or from the Atlantic. Much of the south and Texas (south or southwest?) are also dependent on these storms or their remnants for a significant amount of rainfall to replenish water tables, even while the more severe storms may wipe out late summer and early fall crops, or cause dreadful flooding.

I abhor the flooding and devastation that eastern NC and the Northeast experienced from Irene. At the same time, I was sorely disappointed to have not gotten more than 1/4 inch of rain in my drought-ridden northeast central locale of the state, and most of that evaporated by the March-like windy conditions.

Texas is experiencing a devastating level of drought. Hard or torrential rains there now would wreak immediate havoc, cause untold property damage and probable loss of human life. Several tropical systems in a couple of months time would also be a blessing and a salvation to millions of acres of cropland, pastures and habitat, douse raging wildfures, and recharge the water tables.

What is clear is that climate change is occurring. One could say the climate is out of balance, or one could say the balance is shifting, unpredictably driven by global warming, the other effects of population increase, and natural change processes, as well as the effects of the interactions among all these processes. Regardless, humankind does not have control of the reins. It might behoove us as a species to accept this and change our behaviors and choices accordingly.

All that was thread drift, I see now. I'll let my rambings stand here anyway.

Hope that system developing in the Gulf over-all brings as much benefit as destruction.   My early bet regarding Katia, subject to change, is she will turn northeast well before she threatens the North American coast. But you can bet I'll be checking the tropical forecast at NOAA at least twice a day.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: maeve
Date: 31 Aug 11 - 06:20 PM

Update from our local power company:

"As of noon today, CMP continued to report steady progress in power restoration, with crews from northern Maine, New Hampshire and New Brunswick joining the effort."

Thanks once again, New Brunswick!

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: gnu
Date: 31 Aug 11 - 01:39 PM

Check out the Gulf of Mexico at the US Hurricane centEr. Could be a nasty storm coming up.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Bettynh
Date: 31 Aug 11 - 10:20 AM

I only remember Arlene because it was my mothers' name.

News from my son in Brattleboro, VT, is good. He lives on a hill, where the primary worry was wind in huge sugar maple trees along his driveway. Wind wasn't an issue and he never lost power. In downtown Brattleboro, the brook is back in its banks. The food co-op where he works got 3 inches of water. Everything is covered in a layer of mud. His job has been unloading and trashing food from refrigerators and freezers. Part of their parking lot is undermined and closed off. One bridge looks intact but is closed for inspection.

The national coverage is really a bit much, but Brattleboro has a great community website that collected videos that the national media used without credit. It's a clear shot up major roads from NYC, too, so ABC, CNN, Fox, etc could get reporters and their trucks in and away easily. The governor and senator followed the national media, coming by helicopter. They don't seem to like their governor much. He seems prone to foot in mouth disease.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: gnu
Date: 30 Aug 11 - 07:27 PM

Bettynh... my gosh! I had NO idea that there were that many TD's so far! Sorry to all.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: gnu
Date: 30 Aug 11 - 07:15 PM

Bill... I did, three posts ago.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Bill D
Date: 30 Aug 11 - 07:03 PM

Keep a weather eye out for Katia

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: gnu
Date: 30 Aug 11 - 03:26 PM

I agree.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Bettynh
Date: 30 Aug 11 - 03:17 PM

Arlene formed in the western Caribbean June 29, then slammed into Mexico. I'm haunted by the memory of the 1954 season, with three hurricanes (a hit, a miss, another hit) within three weeks.

As for death tolls, I'd like to see two categories published - those that a purely accidental, thus attibutable to the storm, and those that could have been prevented or were unrelated (except by time). It doesn't seem right to count a drowned surfer or premature sightseer as a casualty of the storm.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: gnu
Date: 30 Aug 11 - 02:47 PM

Ya know, it only JUST struck me as odd that the first storm of the season was called Irene. Why was it not Arlene? Arlene is on the 2011 list and that's the deal innit?

BTW... Katia also looks like she could be a bitch.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Tinker
Date: 30 Aug 11 - 09:42 AM

Power was out almost exactly 48 hours. It finally came on at 4 this morning.
I spent the two days before the storm preparing the basement for water and now the clean up is pretty minimal ... well except for cleaning up the speakeasy and cleaning all the wood. Today will be Murphy's oil soap and then it'll all need to be oiled .... It did well after Floyd so it'll be fine again.... actually cleanest ever...

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 30 Aug 11 - 01:07 AM

My newspaper says that so far there are 21 known dead, mostly from falling trees. That is terrible and unnecessary.

I'm sure there will be a few more deaths because of the flooding to come.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 30 Aug 11 - 12:52 AM

For anyone interested in Mystic Seaport in CT, everything there is okay. The museum did not open on Saturday so the staff could prepare boats, buildings, artifacts, etc. for the storm. It will reopen on Tuesday at 9 (usual time during summer). This link gives more information.
http://www.mysticseaport.org/files/site_files/Press_Releases/2011_releases/082911_Post_Irene.pdf
For those of you on Facebook, you can see Mystic Seaport's posts and photos about preparing for the hurricane and getting ready to reopen.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 30 Aug 11 - 12:08 AM

Here in RI there was some flooding along the coast, bays, and rivers. The winds were the worst part for me. The highest I heard about were reported to be 62 mph. One out of 3 households lost power, and some people may not have it restored until this weekend. In West Warwick, mine was out from Sunday around noon until Monday around 1 PM. I figured I was prepared for 3 days without power but was relieved to have it restored. On Aquidneck Island, which consists of Newport, Middletown, and Portsmouth, reports said the whole island was down. Ny son and his family live in a rural part of Middletown and have a well, so that meant no water. (I raised him a rural part of Coventry, so he knew what it was like to be without water, but his wife and children had never experienced that before.) Their power went out before mine did and was restored after mine. In Providence at least 125 streets were blocked by debris.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Janie
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 10:25 PM

Mother nature never ceases to amaze, and to teach us we are not the masters of the universe.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: artbrooks
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 09:52 PM

Amtrak says: "As of early this Monday evening, about a half-mile of Amtrak right-of-way remained submerged near Trenton, N.J. As the water levels recede, Amtrak engineering forces will make repairs to the track and signal control infrastructure. Updates will continue to be provided and an estimate for restoration of full service south of New York is not yet available."

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Bill D
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 08:55 PM

I think this link will still work...

The way Irene spread out over New England
It shows how the bands of rain were 'thrown' way out beyond the center of the path. You can see that 'lucky' us in the DC area, although we got lots of rain when bands went past, didn't get it as bad as those in western PA.
This storm was just so large that it looked like the arms of a spiral galaxy.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: gnu
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 08:49 PM

Jeri... hope it's back soon. It sucks being disconnected.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: ranger1
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 08:25 PM

Portland fared just fine, but the western part of the state of Maine got hammered. Even though all the state parks were closed and supposed to be minimally staffed, my boss felt that the whole crew needed to come to work so that the work shop could be cleaned. The ancient chestnet tree behind HQ (which houses the work shop) split in two and missed the building by about six inches. He finally let me go home at six PM.

Today, I spent the afternoon helping with clean up at Sebago Lake State Park. They have massive and widespread damage throughout the park, the campground (busiest park campground in the state) is almost inaccessible there are so many trees down. There were over a dozen people wielding chainsaws, operating tractors, woodchippers and dump trucks, and it doesn't even look like we made a dent. Glad I have the next two days off.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Jeri
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 05:14 PM

No power here.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Becca72
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 04:55 PM

There was nothing more than a few wind gusts and a bit of rain at my place in Biddeford, ME. Heard from dear friends in Vermont that they are above water.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: gnu
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 04:52 PM

Mum said the that the peeps on the radio were REPEATEDLY trying to tell the listeners that a set of traffic lights without power is a 4-way STOP fer gosh sakes! There were at least 4 accidents early on in the outage on just ONE 2 km stretch of road next to us. It's amazing and sacrey! I saw it first hand during our last two ourtages... at one intersection I had to lay on the horn and wave a woman to PLEASE GO... even tho there was an RCMP officer waving at her from across the intersection. I assume he could not go out into the intersection as it was too dangerous.

It's still gusty enough for me to keep the potted plants in the garage. Double impatiens and especially the begonias don't care for wind much over 50 kph. It wouldn't hurt them much but why bother just yet?

9... you don't have a river level pole nearby? Odd.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: GUEST,999
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 04:08 PM

Never hurts to be prepared, CN. Irene was a relative no-name hurricane, but where they're gonna be and when is by guess and by God. There were some deaths, but I'd hazard way fewer than an average two-day time span with people driving on the roads and killing each other that way.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Charley Noble
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 03:56 PM

The wind and rain were pretty wild around our part of Midcoast Maine but we didn't even lose power. My brother reported from the coast this morning that my Boston Whaler did fine on its mooring.

Not bad for us in retrospect but I'm glad we were well prepared for worse.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: gnu
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 02:28 PM

The estimated time of restoration of power here was 8:30 to 9:30. They got some in our area back on but we got back on the grid at about 14:00 (14:00 - 12:00 = 2PM for those still on the old system.)

Unfortunately, I lost my cable at about 10:00 so I couldn't monitor the power outage. Ya know, the only thing I missed was the internut. Of course, it's August... not February.

I feel for peeps who go without power for days and weeks. I thought about the Iraquis who had to endure power outages for months.

I see Jose has turned NE and will be far off NS and NFLD.

Bettynh... maeve does know a local logger... TL. >;-)

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: GUEST,999
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 01:06 PM

Thanks, Ad. You have that tree (pole) marked down near the river, right? I do know it's racing by and carrying the odd tree limb with it. Saw one at the old bridge (green arch) that musta been 8" diameter where it broke off, and lots of foliage on it. Just floating along.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: GUEST,999
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 12:56 PM

Indeed, Ad. From here, it looks different, but we're near the old weir and it's hard to tell. You are dry, right?

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: Beer
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 12:48 PM

I'm afraid you are a bit off 999. It is up about 6 to 8 feet its normal flow. I will mark the spot for you when you come over. It is still rising. Usually this occurs as the over flow from Chateauguay Lake up state New York arrives about 8 hours after a heavy rain fall.
ad.

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: CamiSu
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 11:43 AM

Woke this morning to a brilliant day, feeling like a chick who has spent the night under mama-bird. The storm track was supposed to be right over us, due in about 9pm, and instead the rai(excuse me while I go shut off the water I left running!!!)n essentially stopped about 3. I had not filled the tank as I figured that the rain off teh eaves would refill it. I mean we had already gotten about 10" at least, and the main storm was not due for another 6 hours! Instead we got...nothing. Barely a breeze. I am amazed and grateful.

Maeve, Mary, Morses-- how did you fare?

Subject: RE: BS: NA coast hurricane season 2011
From: SINSULL
Date: 29 Aug 11 - 11:30 AM

Peter of Woodchuck's Revenge just posted that he may be cancelling his concert on the 10th. The roads between him and us are gone.
Maine seems to have dodged a bullet. Although the winds were wild after midnight last night.
No flooding at my house until Freddie the Cat in making clear his annoyance at being kept in all day peed on me in the middle of the night. That's usually Alice's job. Unbelievable...Now he is all upset because I yelled at him. That may be the first time in his ten years that I have raised my voice at him and he is very hurt. Meantime I am out a pillow and some towels.
Maeve I worried about you and falling trees all night.My trees swayed and threatened but styaed upright. Net year, if I can afford it, they come down.
For those with wet basements, holes in rooves, and damages, I am sorry but glad you are safe.
SINS