Con-Dems attack workers rights again...(UK)

Subject: Con-Dems attack workers rights again...
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 12:00 PM

Allegedly: -

"Workers will not be able to claim for unfair dismissal unless they have been in a job for at least two years - not one, under government plans. The extension is part of Chancellor George Osborne's plans to help business by changing employment law"

Arseholes.

Subject: RE: Con-Dems attack workers rights again...
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 12:01 PM

Oh shit, should have been BS. Sorry, please move.

Subject: RE: Con-Dems attack workers rights again...
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 12:09 PM

But there are still some potential safeguards, even if they manage to get away with this -

"In order to claim unfair dismissal, you must have been continuously employed for at least one year. However, you can bring a claim for unfair dismissal within your first year of employment if you are claiming on the basis of race, sex, trade union discrimination, dismissal related to pregnancy, national minimum wage, working time rights, health and safety activities, making a protected disclosure, making an application for flexible working or, where in good faith, you seek to exercise a statutory employment protection right." (From here)

Presumably this would apply within the second year of employment, if the ConDems pull off this fast one.

Subject: RE: Con-Dems attack workers rights again...
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 12:17 PM

Quite true. So far. And of course some of those have uncapped awards too.

Subject: RE: Con-Dems attack workers rights again...(UK)
From: GUEST,livelylass
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 12:42 PM

Hmm, and with so many employers now offering annual rolling contracts too..

Subject: RE: Con-Dems attack workers rights again...(UK)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Oct 11 - 03:34 PM

Those at least now aggregate for continuity. When Thatcher was for that route, originally, they did not.

Subject: RE: Con-Dems attack workers rights again...(UK)
From: Penny S.
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 04:08 AM

I do get the impression that the Tories do not really get that workers are actually breathing people with lives like theirs. I definitely heard Philip Hammond (though I can't find the quote, I heard someone on Any Questions refer to it) suggest in answer to a question about more casualties on the roads if the speed limit was raised that this was acceptable if balanced against economic benefits. And given this curious blindness, the idea of workers' rights is obviously meaningless.

Subject: RE: Con-Dems attack workers rights again...(UK)
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 04:21 AM

Boy George Osborne also said they were introducing a charge for an Industrial Tribunal which would only be refunded if you win your case, this is a bloody disgrace, it is purely an attempt to price people out of doing it, if you can't afford to risk losing your money .......?

Dave H

Subject: RE: Con-Dems attack workers rights again...(UK)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 05:39 AM

And when compulsory forelock tugging returns, think of the benefits for the wig industry.

Subject: RE: Con-Dems attack workers rights again...(UK)
From: banjoman
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 05:42 AM

As someone who fought and won a claim for unfair dismissal back in the Thatcher era, I have no doubt that this present lot are reverting to type and putting as many obstacles as they can in the way of working people. I was amazed when watching the news yesterday to hear a boss, whose employees had agreed to a 20% pay cut a year ago to help the company survive, when asked if he was taking a pay cut replied "No because that won't solve the problem" and then went on to try and explain why he was closing the factory. Typical.

Subject: RE: Con-Dems attack workers rights again...(UK)
From: Bonzo3legs
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 05:49 AM

Longer opportunity to get rid of staff who are not up to the job!

Subject: RE: Con-Dems attack workers rights again...(UK)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 06:56 AM

Check the law Bozo. "Not up to the job" (not the exact words of the section) is one of the grounds that may make a dismissal fair - so what shits like you gain is the freedom to dismiss unfairly, rather than for good cause.

Subject: RE: Con-Dems attack workers rights again...(UK)
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 11:00 AM

" ... opportunity to get rid of staff who are not up to the job!"

Still no opportunity to get rid of bosses (and bankers) who are not up to the job! Never mind, give them even bigger salaries, bonuses and tax breaks and I'm sure they'll soon realise 'which side there bread is butterd on' and 'knuckle under'.

Subject: RE: Con-Dems attack workers rights again...(UK)
From: akenaton
Date: 04 Oct 11 - 11:18 AM

You votes for Capitalism.....you takes what you get!
and you deserve it!