BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?

Subject: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 27 Oct 11 - 07:13 AM

Canada Court Blocks Bush Prosecution

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 27 Oct 11 - 08:09 AM

Canada re bushed? That's what happens when you live next door to the Merkinsw.

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Oct 11 - 09:18 AM

It`s just the great elite taking care of their own, that`s all. Our prime minister, Stephen Harper, is a part of that elite. He`s a neocon (despite living in a country whose population does not favor neocon policies in the least), and he`s protecting a privileged member of his own class...as is the court.

Business as usual. `Just move on, please. Nothing to look at here.`

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Oct 11 - 09:19 AM

A spokesperson said the court squashed it because there was no realistic expectation that a federal court would uphold the warrant. A provincial court cannot rule on it because Bush is not Canadian. Charges of that nature might best be prosecuted in the US where I'm sure they'd have as much chance of success as they do here. I'm pissed off they gave the sonuvabitch an entry visa.

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Oct 11 - 09:32 AM

The only places that such charges would have any chance of success are Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, and a few other 3rd World nations who do not worship at the altar of the New World Order. And if they did have Mr Bush in their hands and initiated such a court proceeding, the USA would invade them and we`d have another war on our hands....and more war crimes would follow in short order. There is no way of making someone like George Bush accountable for his crimes...short of doing to the USA what the world did to Germany in 1945. That`s not going to happen, because the USA is far too heavily armed to make that method feasible at the moment.....and it wouldn`t be worth killing one or two billion people just to prosecute George Bush.

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Oct 11 - 10:14 AM

Well, at least there is a country in Europe where he dare not go.

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: GUEST,Hi Lo
Date: 27 Oct 11 - 11:22 AM

I do believe that Canada, as a federal state, differentiates between the powers of a Provincal and a Federal Court. To the best of my knowledge, an international charge; i.e...war crimes, cannot be heard in a Provincial Court such as the court in British Columbia. This can only be done by A Federal Court. I am going to also guess that those filing the chare in the BC court were well aware of this. But I could be wrong.

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: Charmion
Date: 27 Oct 11 - 01:52 PM

Can you spell "publicity stunt", boys and girls?

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: GUEST,Blind DRunk in Blind River
Date: 27 Oct 11 - 01:54 PM

What the flip is this all abowt? Bush is just as popuular in Canada as it ever was, eh? Don't let them pitchers on the Internet fool ya.

- Shane

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: GUEST
Date: 27 Oct 11 - 01:58 PM

a pulicity stunt you say...being imprisoned for 9 years without being charged is a publicity stunt...? Can you spell professional help boys and girls?

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Oct 11 - 02:04 PM

Charmion is close to the truth. A provincial court has no jurisdiction in what would have to be a federal matter.
The case would have no merit under federal law. No Canadian citizen is among the four mentioned in the case.
A waste of money any way you look at it.

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 27 Oct 11 - 02:10 PM

It's a way of drawing attention to high political crimes. Of course you can call that a publicity stunt, because it is. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's not making a useful point. I doubt that they ever imagined it wound end up in the arrest of George Bush on Canadian soil, unless they are quite naive.

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: gnu
Date: 27 Oct 11 - 02:11 PM

Bush speech? When did he learn to give a speech?

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: BTNG
Date: 27 Oct 11 - 02:42 PM

aye and he made sense........

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: GUEST,999
Date: 27 Oct 11 - 08:00 PM

The media was not allowed to be in the hall to hear the speech, as a btw. However, likely Bush was in usual top form. GIGO.

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 27 Oct 11 - 08:04 PM

It was a nice fantasy while it lasted.

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 27 Oct 11 - 09:17 PM

Aw come on, guys! Arresting Bush is akin to arresting Mortimer Snerd. Don't arrest the dummy. Arrest the guy who was making his mouth move. Arrest that dickhead, Cheney.

Anyway, it'd piss off a lot of Americans if you arrested one of our presidents. It wouldn't be a big deal if you arrested one of our vice presidents. We've done it ourselves.

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: BTNG
Date: 27 Oct 11 - 09:44 PM

The last president you tried to impeach slipped out from between your fingers by resigning, the one before that, barely escaped impeachment...it was by one vote, so yeah, the track record's not good.

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 28 Oct 11 - 12:51 AM

Good point, Bee-Dub. Cheney was the ventriloquist, Bush was just the dummy moving his lips at the appropriate time...

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: ollaimh
Date: 28 Oct 11 - 10:08 PM

criminal law is provincial in application in canada. the criminal code which includes crimes against humanity and war crimes is federal but the courts arte provincially run.

normally any prosecution on such a criminal charge would go throuhg a provincial court--usually a supreme court.

i supose charges could be brought in federal court but federal courts in canada do not have a wide jurisdiction. they normally hear cases that are violations of federal statuetes that are adminstered federally, such as tax and other adminstrative law cases. even tax evasion is proscuted in provincial courts, but by federal prosecutors.

if a provincial prosecutor could show some reasonable connection to the province in question, such as british columbia being the residence of the rendition victum, then prosecution would start in provincial court. legally the more interesting question is which prosecutors would run the prosecution. federal prosecutors do tax offences and drug charges in canada, but in provincial courts. i defended both. federal prosecutors are the ultimate patronage appointment and they are often the worst sloppiest prosecutors, so if you want a conviction go for a provincial crown counsel with fire in his/her belly on the issue.i can't tell you how many conspiracy drug charges based on wire taps i saw dismissed because they couldn;t draft a wire tap authorization properly, and they couldn't follow the rules in the authoruization. complete incompetence.and thats with our limp wristed charter protections

but most courts would say charge him at the international court then try to extradite. of course the united states doesn't recognize very much in international law. thast's why they igniore crimes against humanity and war crimes commited by their own

Subject: RE: BS: WHAT has happened to Canada, re Bush?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 29 Oct 11 - 12:20 AM

Just like all political regimes, specially those who have imperial objectives...

They figure it's "right" when they do it, "wrong" when others do it...no matter what it is...no matter how terrible. They will incinerate whole cities full of other human beings and tell you, "Oh, we had to do it, you see...to save lives." And their own people will mostly believe that lie.