Favorite Fall Songs

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Margaret V
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 07:27 PM

You're welcome, John. And mbo, stay under that full-spectrum lamp! Margaret

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: John Hardly
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 04:48 PM

I also didn't realize the old news about T Thompson. So sad. I was introduced to the music of Shawn Colvin when she was touring as one of the Red Clay Ramblers--miss that group---John

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Ebbie
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 03:54 PM

Autumn is my favorite season, too. (Do you suppose we should do a birth chart on Mudcatters to see if there is an astrological impetus? Just kiddin'.)

I'm in possession of a wonderful tape by Kathy Martin Fanning, called Changin' of the Seasons. In the autumn verse it says:

And when you rest in Autumn's radiance
Like the last few lingering leaves
You hear a distant, whispering voice
Carried softly on the breeze
You turn your ear away
You hold on tight and yet you know
Like the last leaf on the Autumn branch
Comes a time you must let go.

Ebbie

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: John Hardly
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 02:46 PM

Unbelievable, I was just going to ask this question and, thankfully, somebody resurrected this old thread and spared me the embarrasment of having the blue clicky curse put on me. It got down into the low forties last night, the 50'X 50' maple that is my front yard is just starting to blush at the thought of its comming nudity, and I've been listening to Tony Rice's version of "Urge For Going", JT's "Walking Man", and Kate Wolf's "(Only Got) These Times We're Living In"

There's winter wood piled on the porch,
Walnuts scattered on the ground,
And wood smoke rising to the sky.

An old man comes home from work,
Hugs his wife in his sweat-stained shirt
and walks throught the door to where it's warm inside

Thanks Margret,

John

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: mousethief
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 02:22 PM

One good (perhaps not "favorite") fall song is "Leaves That Are Green" by Simon and Garfunkel.

And the leaves that are green turn to brown
And they wither with the wind
And they crumble in your hand...

Alex
O..O
=o=

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Jim the Bart
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 02:19 PM

For some reason "Summer Song", by Chad and Jeremy, always pops into my mind at this time of the year. The lines "When the Rain beats against my window pane I'll think of summer days again and dream of you" just makes me want to hold on to these last days of summer even more. I was in love when it was a new song, but not for long. . .

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Jim Krause
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 02:09 PM

Without doubt, without equivocation, When Fall Comes to New England by Cheryl Wheeler. What a voice! I think I might be in love.

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: GUEST,Mbo_at_ECU
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 01:32 PM

I used to love "Forever Autumn" by Justin...but now I cannot bear to hear it anymore. It tears me up inside and makes me feel like an idiot. Fall is my favorite season of the year, but it ends up that sadness strikes me just about Autumn. I'm feeling depressed already.

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Peg
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 12:58 PM

yes, Thomas! It has become one of my favorite songs of all time and Mr. Gaughan's version is wonderful. He is playing in the area October 5 and I hope to see him (missed his last show in Boston a few months' ago). There is a big bronze statue of Rabbie Burns (with his dog, cloak and walking stick trimmed with oak leaves and acorns) right near my building here downtown where I work and it has become a favorite spot since I discovered it a couple weeks ago...

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Thomas the Rhymer
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 12:49 PM

Westlin Winds is a fantastic Autumn song. I have adopted it from Dick Gaughan, and it is a mainstay Autumn song for me. Robert Burns wrote it and WOW! Such a vivid Scottish naturalist he is! ttr

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 12:28 PM

round from a "Straw into Gold" tape:

The night is long the dance goes on
Round and round we go we hold each other's hands (and)
Weave ourselves in a circle

4 main beats to each line -

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Peg
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 12:21 PM

My coven plays "Urge for Goin'" by Tom Rush before our Autumn Equinox/Mabon ritual every year...I heard Rush play it on NPR several months ago and wish to god I had managed to tape it...

Thanks for the reminder about "Are You Happy Now"!

I also love Burns' "Song Composed in August" ("Westlin' Winds") and Justin Hayward's "Forever Autumn" which is a commonly-screamed request at Moody Blues concerts in recent years...

"The Whistler" by Tull is also an autumn song to me...as is "Heavy Horses"

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Mbo
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 12:12 PM

Wow, I was sitting at this very same computer in the BLET computer lab here at ECU when I made the above post on October 8th of last year. My God how time flies.

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Margaret V
Date: 26 Sep 00 - 12:07 PM

Refresh-- guess it's that time again. Margaret

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: ADeane
Date: 09 Oct 99 - 12:50 PM

No-one seems to have mentioned The Castle O Dromore- October winds lament around the Castle O Dromore......... ADeane

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: margaret
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 08:46 PM

Like Tom, my thoughts run to Robin Williamson and The Incredible String Band this time of year, especially October Song and the very beautiful and mysterious Witches Hat. Other seasonal faves: After Halloween, by Sandy Denny; Are You Happy Now, by Richard Shindell; and Old Tennessee, by Dan Fogelberg. I have been singing Urge for Goin for three weeks now (but I never seem to go).

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Susan A-R
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 08:24 PM

Although the title suggests summer, Robert Burns' Song Composed in August is a lovely one. (Also gets going on the hunting theme, of cours that brings up the Tom Lehrer Hinting song, . . . )

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 08:06 PM

Nice, emily. Can't think why I didn't think of them in the first place! I love libana's songs and harmony!

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: emily rain
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 07:40 PM

my fave is a series of songs from one of the libana cd's. they all have gorgeous melodies and can be sung individually as rounds.

fly fly fly
the leaves are leaving the branch
cold is the wind
winter is coming

sing, oh, you falling rain
dance, oh, snow
flow you river, river, river,
blow, wind, blow

autumn time
red leaves fall
while the weeping sky
looks over all
demeter sadly walks the land
the dying grasses in her hand

and another especially for samhain:

ancient mother, i hear you calling
ancient mother, i sing your song
ancient mother, i join your laughter
ancient mother, i taste your tears

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Marki
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 02:06 PM

I can't resist saying this....

One of the all-time best (albeit un-sentimental & non-politically correct) autumn songs is "The Second Week of Deer Camp". Every time I hear that song around this time of year, I kill myself laughing. It totally gets me in the mood for autumn.

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 01:37 PM

Seeing the Wild Mountain Thyme mentioned, I can not resist one of the verses a friend of mine wrote:

If a Hamburg rat gets worms
They will send for Uncle Herman
Who's renound throughout the land
For de-wormin German vermin
Will ye go lassie go

Jon

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: katlaughing
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 01:36 PM

You're welcome, Peter. My grandma and mom were great fans of J.W. Riley. One of my very favourites was/is The Raggedy Man, also Little Orphant(sic) Annie (which Alice posted over on the Campfire thread). As kids, we wore out the book of his poems. I've a fine collection of them now.

Greg Brown's song about his grandma's preserves, I think it is Peaches on the Shelf, also reminds me of this time of year. Growing up in Western Colorado, we always canned peaches in mid-to-late September. Mom's kitchen would become a whirlwind of carefully correographed steps, with each of us assigned certain duties in helping out. Since I was the youngest and least experienced, my job was always to boil the lids and rings, then scoop them out with tongs when a jar was ready for capping. The air was filled with a tangy sweetness; it was hard not to eat up all the soft, fuzzy fruit before mom could get to them for peeling and slicing. Nothing like a sunshine heated, almost overripe Colorado peach!

kat

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: MAG (inactive)
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 12:28 PM

somebody mentioned a Bill Staines song; I think there's a different one about fall (er, autumn), the one where the chorus ends

Autumn winds have come to town,/ and summer's o'er the hill.

first verse starts: Tomatoes on the windowsill, they go from green to red ...

then: I'll tie an old bandanna 'round this sleepy dog of mine/ To keep her safe ... when hunter's bullets wine

And there's Dillon Buskin's one about cutting wood:

(you should) be out -- cutting more wood.

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: NOGS
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 11:34 AM

Oops, hit the enter button by mistake.
A favorite here is THE RIPE AND BEARDED BARLEY:

Come out 'tis now September and the hunters moons begun
And through the wheat and stubble is heard the frequent gun
The leaves are pail and yellow, kindling into red
And the ripe and bearded barley is hangin' down his head

All among the barley, who would not be blithe
When the ripe and bearded barley is smiling on the scythe

There are other verses that involve lovely descriptions of the seasons, grains.

Changed from all upper case. -JoeClone 13-Mar-01.

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: NOGS
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 11:29 AM

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 11:15 AM

Mbo ~ Thanks for the final verse to Wild Mountain Thyme. I've been doing that song for years but have never heard that last verse (it's a great one).

Thanks, Cap't Bob

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Peter T.
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 10:26 AM

Thanks for the poem, kat, never knew where the phrase "frost is on the punkin" came from.
Probably Tony Bennett's most brilliant interpretation of a song is his version of "Indian Summer" on the Perfectly Frank album (I think). It is very complex music, treacherous to handle, and he carries it off like a tightrope walker.
yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From:
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 08:54 AM

Another song that seems to fit is Larry Hanks' "Apple Picker's Reel".

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Mbo
Date: 08 Oct 99 - 08:04 AM

Yes, Wild Mountain Time rather is a spring/summer song, but the final verse is (in the version I have) "The autumn time is coming/And the leaves will soon be falling/All the flowers of the summer/Will soon wither on the mountain." That's the part of the song that always gets me right here.

--Mbo (:-<)

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Tom on Comfort
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 11:23 PM

A couple more that I like: Robin Williamson's "October Song" & "Done stayed around & played around this old town too long..." (kinda in that same Urge for Going mode--something about autumn does that?)

Tom

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Susan A-R
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 10:08 PM

I like a lot of the songs mentioned above, Urge for Going, Who Knows Where the Time Goes, Fall is Here, Turning Toward the Morning, etc.

Ann Dodson (sp) was in a group that did a lovely one called Lie Easy. I also think of Bok's Hearth and Fire as being an autumn song.

I wrote an apple round a few years back.

Cortlands and spies in the fall of the year Baked into pies or for eating Sweet as summer's last sun, crisp as winter to come. Cortlands and Spies.

I have always loved autumn. It has meant apple picking, Red Sox baseball (GROAN) the lovely slant of autumn morning and evening sunlight, the colors that Vermont produces in wild abundance (I've lived here for over 40 years and I am surprised every year), those crisp nights when you go out under burning, close-set stars and blanket the tomatoes, and finally, the free-for-all tomato fights once the garden was well and truly put to bed. Thanks for starting this thread.

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 10:06 PM

ALAN ~~ No problem with the fall from down under. I got a good chuckle out of the Humpty Dumpty suggestion. We have some good friends who are Kiwi's and spent some time in our neck of the woods as exchange teachers. I can understand how people who spend most of their lives walking around upside down, and out of sync. with the seasons, could possibly get confused with this "fall" thing.

Cap't Bob

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: BobLusk
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 09:50 PM

My favorite fall song is "What's the Life of a Man" - anymore than a leaf? I sing it "What's the life of anyone?" Sorry, I prefer it that way. Somone mentined Wild Mountain Thyme. That starts off - "The summertime is coming.." sounds spring to me. Bob

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Alan of Australia
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 09:21 PM

Thanks MMario, actually I am vaguely aware of the historical usage of "fall" & "autumn", currently though "fall" is pretty well confined to North America. And of course here in Oz nothing actually falls in autumn - the trees stay alive.

I was really only having a bit of a stir.

Cheers,
Alan

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Jon Freeman
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 06:59 PM

MMario, was that little disagreement a fall out?

I can't think of any fall/autumn songs at the moment except Forever Autumn which I do like. I know, as Llanfair said, it came from War of the Worlds - trying to think of the singer now - Justin Hayward?

Jon

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Mbo
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 06:49 PM

Thanks for already mentioning some of mine: "Forever Autumn" by Justin Heywood (of the Moody Blues),and "Semptember Song," the version sung by Jeff Lynne (aka "The Lynnemeister", former leader of the Electric Light Orchestra, as he is known to us, his adoring fans.) Other songs I associate with Autumn (my favorite season) are: "Catch the Wind" by Donovan, "Wild Mountain Thyme" by The Corries, "Closer" by the Corrs, "Norland Wind" by Battlefield Band, and my own composition "Only The Shannon Knows." For some reason I have always associated the album "Face The Music" by The Electric Light Orchestra (can you tell I like them?" with Autumn, and of course one of my favorite albums of all time is "Autumn" by George Winston, with "Longing/Love" being one of my all-time favorite pieces of music. Man I love this time of year!

--Mbo (to whom it IS forever autumn)

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 05:53 PM

Darn scanner! Sorry I missed that "@". Should read:

The stubble in the furries-kind o'lonesome-like, but still

Subject: Lyr Add: WHEN THE FROST IS ON THE PUNKIN (J Riley)
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 05:50 PM

That was great, Art. Sorry to hear about the author, though.

Just in case anyone wants all of the words to the poem I mentioned:

WHEN THE FROST IS ON THE PUNKIN (sic)
James Whitcomb Riley

When the frost is on the punkin and the fodder's in the shock
And you hear the kyouck and the gobble of the struttin' turkey-cock,
And the rooster's hallylooyer as he tiptoes on the fence;
O, it's then's the time a feller is a-feelin' at his best,
With the risin' sun to greet him from a night of peaceful rest,
As he leaves the house, bareheaded, and goes out to feed the stock
When the frost is on the punkin and fodder's in the shock.

They's something kind o' harry-like about the atrnusfere
When the heat of summer's over and the coolin' fall is here--
Of course we miss the flowers, and the blossums on the trees,
And the mumble of the hummingbirds and buzzin' of the bees;
But the air's so appetizin'; and the landscape through the haze
Of a crisp and sunny morning of the airly autumn days
Is a picture that no painter has the colorin' to mock--
When the frost is on the punkin and the fodder's in the shock.

The husky, rusty russel of the tossers of the corn,
And the raspin' of the tangled leaves as golden as the morn;
The stubble in the furries-kind c@ lonesome-like, but still
A-preachin' sermuns to us of the barns they growed to fill;
The strawstack in the medder, and the reaper in the shed;
The bosses in theyr stalls below-the clover overhead!-
0, it sets my hart a-clickin' like the tickin' of a clock,
When the frost is on the punkin and the fodder's in the shock

Then your apples all is gethered, and the ones a feller keeps
Is poured around the cellar-floor in red and yeller heaps;
And your cidermakin's over and your wimmern-folks is through
With theyr mince and apple-butter, and theyr souse and sausage too!
I don't know bow to tell it-but ef sich a thing could be
As the Angels wantin' boardin', and they'd call around on me-
I'd want to 'commodate 'em-all the whole-indurin' flock-
When the frost is on the punkin and the fodder's in the shock!

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 04:09 PM

Very interesting comments and some wonderful verse. I've read through the thread three times so far and most likely will read it a few more times.

The comments about "cider" really hit home as just this last weekend we had a cider making gathering. This was mainly due to the huge apple crop this year. Like in Cara's post the tree branches were really bending down this year.

The cider making was a lot of fun and there was a lot of talk about making it an annual event. Most likely I'll use some your songs and verses in next years cider pressing outing.

The memories are great. When I was in high school (there were still dance bands at that time) our band used to play Autumn Leaves and the September Song at back to school dances. Oh so romantic back in those days.

Art, sorry to hear about Tommy Thompson ~ love that song, "Hot Buttered Rum".

Cap't Bob

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Peter T.
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 04:02 PM

Classics: "September Song" (Dietrich: Ohhhh, it's a lonnnng, lonnng, weilllll, from May till Decembuuuh....
"Who Knows Where The Time Goes"
etc....
yours, Peter T.

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: DonMeixner
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 03:20 PM

Not an Autumn song at all but "The January Man" comes to mind. Bill Staines "Hauling In The Wood" is a favorite. Barbara beat me in with Charlie McQuire's "Fall is Here". And for some reason this is the only time of the year I ever sing "I'll be Seeing You"

Don

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Llanfair
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 02:32 PM

I'm another Autumn lover, somehow things always start to happen for me at this time of year. My favourites are "Marigolds" by Steeleye Span, and "Forever Autumn" from War of the Worlds.
"Through autumn's golden gown we used to kick our way,
You always loved this time of year,
Those autumn leaves lie undisturbed now
Cause you're not here.
Hwyl, Bron.

Subject: Lyr Add: HOT BUTTERED RUM (Tommy Thompson)^^^
From: Art Thieme
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 02:21 PM

Tommy Thompson from the original RED CLAY RAMBLERS wrote a grand song called "HOT BUTTERED RUM".

When chimney smoke hangs still and low,
Across the stubble fields of snow,
And angry skies reach down and sieze,
The sorry blackened bones of trees,
In the dead of winter when those silent snowbirds come,
You're my sweet maple sugar honey---hot buttered rum.

When dreary Christmas decorations line the streets and filling stations,
And dimestore santas can't disguise their empty hands and their empty eyes,
In the cold of winter when those tinsel angels come,
You're my sweet msple sugar honey---hot buttered rum.

When gloves and boots and woolen parkas
Bring cold comfort to the heart,
And bitter memories freeze the tongue,
And songs of love are left unsung,
In the dead of winter when thos cold feelings come,
You're my sweet maple sugar honey---hot buttered rum. ________________________________________________________

Sadly, Tommy Thompson is now in a North Carolina nursing home suffering with Alzheimers Disease. A terrible time, I'm sure, for Tommy and a great loss for us all. He was a great talent and a wonderful guy. I'll always remember walking around the Winfield, Kansas festivalgrounds and listening to Claire Lynch while sharing drinks from a paper sack with Tommy. That was completely against all the rules at that good festival--but nobody ever knew---'til now! If anyone would like to drop a line to Tommy, you can do that at:

Tommy Thompson
104 West Main St.--#5
Carrboro, North Carolina 27510
I do hope the place is still there after the recent floods...

Art Thieme

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Marion
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 12:08 PM

Of course, that should be "But it were vain to tell her so..." (second last line).

Marion

Don't you hate making mistakes you can't correct?

Subject: Lyr Add: MY NOVEMBER GUEST (Robert Frost)
From: Marion
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 12:05 PM

This is a little ahead of time, and it's a poem not a song, but I love Robert Frost's "MY NOVEMBER GUEST."

My sorrow, when she's here with me
Thinks these dark days of autumn rain
Are beautiful as days can be;
She loves the bare, the withered tree
She walks the sodden pasture lane.

Her pleasure will not let me stay;
She talks, and I am fain to list
She's glad the birds have gone away.
She's glad her simple worsted grey
Is silver now with clinging mist.

The desolate, deserted trees
The faded earth, the heavy sky
The beauties she so truly sees
She thinks I have no eye for these
And vexes me for reason why.

Not yesterday I learned to know
The love of bare November days
Before the coming of the snow
But it were vain to tell her son
And they are better for her praise.

For that matter... here in Ottawa we had snow yesterday. Only for a few minutes, and only those dry litle pellets that blow away when they hit the ground, but there were definitely white solid objects falling from the sky. Unbelievable. I'm just honoured that I was outside when it happened.

Marion

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 11:48 AM

Oh....ummm, we're not talking about the "fall" from Grace?**BG**

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: MMario
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 11:11 AM

Alan - according to a web site I visited back awhile, "fall" for "autumn" is actually one of the instances where the usage in North America is a vestige of English as spoken "then". Evidently "fall" is the older term, and "autumn" came into common usage after the little disagreement between the colonists and Mother England.

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Pete Peterson
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 11:11 AM

yes, Autumn Leaves! but also Done laid around done stayed around this old town too long Summer's almost gone and winter's coming on Done laid around done stayed around this old town too long And I feel like I gotta travel on I THINK I learned that off a Weavers record. . .

Subject: Lyr Add: BYE & BYE
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 11:02 AM

Almost forgot there's one on Art Thieme's CD, "The Older I Get, The Better I Was" that I really like called "BYE & BYE":

Oh the time of the year that I like best
The time when the mule walks round the press
Gals put on their gingham dress, bye & bye
The leaves are red, and the ground is cold
The sap's gonna rise, so I've been told
We don't care if the frost is coming, bye & bye.

Down the road come an old tarheel
On his back a sack of meal,
By his side an old hound dog, bye & bye
Well he'd trade the meal and the hound dog, too
For a kiss from the gal that's dressed in blue
Prettiest gal he's ever seen, bye & bye.

(Repeat first)

Well folks come from here and there
Folks come from everywhere
The old mule keeps going round, bye & bye
Well they come for to dance, come for to sing
Come for to make the rafters ring
Come for the cane and they come for the sorghum, bye & bye

(Repeat first)

Well folks come from all around
Wagon tracks tearing up the ground
Come for the cane and they come for the spark, bye & bye
So we build a fire 'neath the old iron pot
Cook up the cane 'til it's boiling hot
In the dark we'll steal a kiss, bye & bye.

(Repeat first)

Subject: RE: Favorite Fall Songs
From: Vixen
Date: 07 Oct 99 - 10:09 AM

Welllll....

My *current* favorite autumn song is the one Tim and I wrote two weekends ago...Here's a bit of it:

There's nothin' like the cider season
back in my hometown
When the leaves are turnin' orange
and the grass is turnin' brown

CH:
and the goldenrod is bloomin'
yes the grass is turnin' brown
the air is gettin' chilly
but the sun's still shinin' warm
and I'm drivin' down the backroads to my home

Please 'scuse the beastly conceit, but I had to write a song with "orange" in it because somebody on another thread said it was one of the colors to avoid putting in a song, or something to that effect. As part my sheer cussedness, I have compelled Tim to add "beige", "chartreuse", "mushroom", et cetera to our version of Jinny Jenkins, so those bizarre color names do get sung.

V