BS: Hell on Earth?

Subject: BS: Hell on Earth?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 04:48 PM

I've just watched a video of "Hell on Earth," workers in Pakistan braking apart huge ships on the shore: click here for video!

Haunting scenes.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Hell on Earth?
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 05:11 PM

Very depressing...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Hell on Earth?
From: gnu
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 05:12 PM

Haunting indeed.

Subject: RE: BS: Hell on Earth?
From: Paul Burke
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 05:47 PM

A friend from the local pub developed mesothelioma last year. Probably related to his days in the railway carriage works in Derby UK. He's about 63.

I mentioned this to a young (thirty something) at work the other day. He was most upset- when he was about 19, he'd demolished buildings full of asbestos, and there were few precautions used then. All he can do now is wait, and hope.

Subject: RE: BS: Hell on Earth?
From: ollaimh
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 06:10 PM

when i was young i worked in blasting and drilling. we handled chemicasls thast no safety protocols could stop. i'm lucky--so far, but a lot of the guys who worked with the blasting chemicals a lot longer than me had terrible illnesses.

i was lucky to be injured early and forced to find other work, but i had a choice.

in the third world those worker have no chioce if they want to eat. it's terrible what military capitalism does to human values

Subject: RE: BS: Hell on Earth?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 06:44 PM

If the Repuglicans win the US election you'll see it in the USA.

Subject: RE: BS: Hell on Earth?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 08:38 PM

Richard-

Well as long as we can still earn minimum wage, and get our food stamps...

There were night scenes in that video that could have been painted by Hieronymus Bosch.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Hell on Earth?
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Jan 12 - 10:08 PM

The thing that impressed me is how close the workers are -- that they will work together to solve each others problems. In some ways they're OBU. But the fatalism, the fatalism!

Subject: RE: BS: Hell on Earth?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 09:03 AM

Rapparee-

I was also impressed with that part. Watching each other's back should help their survival, I would expect, rather than individual competition. Still, I expect their lives are very short and for those who are injured on the job, no workers compensation.

The image of the ship plowing onto the beach is also a haunting one. The whole setting, the workers and the derelict ships, would work well for a Bertolt Brecht play.

I may have to compose a song.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Hell on Earth?
From: GUEST,josepp
Date: 28 Jan 12 - 02:55 PM

I just read about a guy who spent a day or two or three in hell on earth--he fell through his outhouse floor and was stuck down there. The fumes can kill you so it's remarkable he survived. He said it was full of roaches and rats and spiders and all kids of creepy-crawlies he had never seen before and I'm sure he heopes never to see again--at least under those circumstances. He likened it to being stuck in a pit of hell. I wonder if he ever read Dante's Inferno where one of the levels of hell was a shit pit where people are suspended in it head downwards.

Subject: RE: BS: Hell on Earth?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 29 Jan 12 - 12:42 PM

Yeah Charley, I saw that about a week ago on TV. Pretty grim....and did you notice, that some of them are smiling away?

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Hell on Earth?
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 29 Jan 12 - 01:00 PM

I thought you were talking about mudcat my friend

Subject: RE: BS: Hell on Earth?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 30 Jan 12 - 07:15 AM

GfS-

Yes, I noticed that. Evidently, there is camaraderie to make life more bearable in almost any economic pursuit, including this desperate one.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Hell on Earth?
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 30 Jan 12 - 07:34 PM

Hell is in Norway. Check it out. Norway is part of earth. Ergo there is Hell on earth.

Subject: RE: BS: Hell on Earth?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 31 Jan 12 - 10:03 AM

There is also the town of "Hell" in Michigan, next to "Temperance" oddly enough.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: BS: Hell on Earth?
From: Bob Bolton
Date: 01 Feb 12 - 12:03 AM

G'day JohnotSC & Charley Noble,

I understand that in most of the more northern germanic tongues (English is more west-germanic) "hell(e)" means (~) "beautiful". (I gather that the eastern USA, like Tasmania, when I used to live down there, has at least one waterfall called (~) Hells's Gates ...orinally understood as a compliment - for the beauty of the falls and surroundings!

Regard(les)s,

Bob

Subject: RE: BS: Hell on Earth?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 01 Feb 12 - 05:37 AM

olddude: Hell on Earth?'I thought you were talking about mudcat my friend.'


...I guess it all depends who you talk to...

Warmest Regards, olddude!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Hell on Earth?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 01 Feb 12 - 08:30 AM

Bob-

Welcome back!

Here in Maine "Hellgate" is a common name for a treacherous section of a river, laced with underwater rocks or ledges, and strong currents.

Charley Noble