Inflicting quality onfolk anything wrong

Subject: RE: Inflicting quality onfolk anything wrong
From: GUEST,highlandman at work
Date: 14 Feb 12 - 11:19 AM

"...practicing something fifty or sixty times to "get it right" means that you "thought" you had it wrong that many times."

If I'm "buggering about at home" I might practice something until I can get it right.

If I'm preparing for a public performance (the definition of which can be debated) I try to practice until I can't get it wrong.Big difference.

Will F, I like that you understand that improvisation and practice are not mutually exclusive!

-Glenn

Subject: RE: Inflicting quality onfolk anything wrong
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 14 Feb 12 - 02:47 PM

ok john p if they are everywhere why aren't they recognized- assisted rewarded drawn attention to as models for others....

it is an illusion their numbers are in serious decline

Conrad

Subject: RE: Inflicting quality onfolk anything wrong
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 14 Feb 12 - 02:49 PM

there should be no stages- no high overhead costs- no promotion

conrad

Subject: RE: Inflicting quality onfolk anything wrong
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 14 Feb 12 - 02:52 PM

musical skills dont matter to quote chumbawumba- "the music matters" thats it

Conrad

Subject: RE: Inflicting quality onfolk anything wrong
From: *#1 PEASANT*
Date: 14 Feb 12 - 02:59 PM

In folk music no one need pay anyone-= so then why should anyone "get it right" for someone else

totally irrelevant

you possess music you play music easy

The autonomous performer- no boday bothers me or should

if not the tradition can not function at all

and no the tradition can not die it is a bunch of principals processes and variables and relationships cant kill them but you can turn the volume way way down and persecute the people who arent good enough.

deny them stages, funding.....recognition and encouragement.....

you make them worse than slaves

Conrad

Subject: RE: Inflicting quality onfolk anything wrong
From: GUEST,Mike Mndaville
Date: 14 Feb 12 - 03:11 PM

Fellers, I would have posted sooner, but my oomputer was so shocked by Wills playin' that it gave me a Blue Screen, and then it took me several hours to learn how to Restore According To Last Good Configuration. I am going to make me some tea, and then I will be right back to post about Will's World Class Playin'.

Subject: RE: Inflicting quality onfolk anything wrong
From: GUEST,Mike Mandaville
Date: 14 Feb 12 - 03:44 PM

Okay, got my tea now. Will, I am as impressed by your unassuming psychological profile as I am by your playing, and in this regard, you remind me of Doc Watson. Of course, an unassuming profile is expected of all country performers, but with you I think that it comes quite naturally. And I don't mean to undercut John's point of view either, which I take to be that we owe it to ourselves to be the best that we can be at whatever it is that we decide to do. And then, of course, there is the furtherance of the tradition. These are all valid points of view, and of course it is the dialogfue itself which counts.

Will, I am still tryin' to catch my breath after your performance of "Freight Train", but I am going to go back now and listen to "Staten Island Steps", and then click on your links. Again, I think that there is an abundance of good will in this thread, and I am as much interested in the furtherance of the folk tradition as I think that we all are. And now I am off to appreciate more of Will's playin. Will,you're an okay cowboy!

Subject: RE: Inflicting quality onfolk anything wrong
From: GUEST,highlandman at work
Date: 14 Feb 12 - 04:38 PM

Peas, if the tradition cannot die then what the &*% are you so worried about?

Subject: RE: Inflicting quality onfolk anything wrong
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 14 Feb 12 - 05:57 PM

Mike M - Will's a bit good, isn't he?

Subject: RE: Inflicting quality onfolk anything wrong
From: Will Fly
Date: 14 Feb 12 - 06:06 PM

Glad you liked the playing. Mike. The point of the links was merely to show how I try and bring improvisation into folk stuff - which you don't often see these days. Davy Graham was an early and powerful influence on me and, by that, I don't mean the repertoire but the approach to the music, which I thought was unique. Doesn't always work for me, mind you, but I tries! :-)

I'm just back from an open mic where I've been playing jazz duets with my old mate Chris Wolferstan ("Wolfie") from Brighton and a double bass player. We had a ball and I got to try out my latest acquisition - a German Otwin guitar built in 1960...

How High The Moon

This is far more conventional stuff!

Subject: RE: Inflicting quality onfolk anything wrong
From: YorkshireYankee
Date: 14 Feb 12 - 06:07 PM

Will, clicked on your links and really enjoyed the music you made; love the way you literally "play" with the music -- like it is a toy you love to play with...