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Pete Seeger & Leonard Peltier

GUEST,Lizzie Cornish 10 Mar 12 - 03:46 PM
GUEST 10 Mar 12 - 07:45 PM
Jean(eanjay) 10 Mar 12 - 07:47 PM
ChanteyLass 11 Mar 12 - 12:01 AM
katlaughing 11 Mar 12 - 01:12 AM
GUEST,999 11 Mar 12 - 03:27 AM
GUEST,Bluesman 11 Mar 12 - 03:49 AM
GUEST,999 11 Mar 12 - 04:00 AM
GUEST,Bluesman 11 Mar 12 - 04:19 AM
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Subject: Pete Seeger & Leonard Peltier
From: GUEST,Lizzie Cornish
Date: 10 Mar 12 - 03:46 PM

Pete Seeger talking about the new Leonard Peltier film 'Wind Chases The Sun'

Some great new photos on here for Leonard, including one with Pete Seeger...

'Wind Chases The Sun' Facebook page..


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger & Leonard Peltier
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Mar 12 - 07:45 PM

When NOT if ........ thanks for the links, Lizzie.


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger & Leonard Peltier
From: Jean(eanjay)
Date: 10 Mar 12 - 07:47 PM

Sorry, that guest post was me. I didn't realise I wasn't logged in .... should have done though because I couldn't see trace.


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger & Leonard Peltier
From: ChanteyLass
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 12:01 AM

It goes without saying (but I'll say it anyway) that I am glad to see Pete supporting this cause. What I also like is that he refers to himself as a European-American. That is a term I often use to describe myself but rarely hear others use.


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger & Leonard Peltier
From: katlaughing
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 01:12 AM

I can't wait to see the movie. It has been so long, this fight for his freedom. The time is now and I am glad to see so many others agree.

Morris Dees, of the Southern Poverty Law Center, suggested years ago that we use American of (whatever) descent, i.e. American of African descent, etc. He likes putting the emphasis on our commonality.

Thanks, Lizzie!

kat


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger & Leonard Peltier
From: GUEST,999
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 03:27 AM

Peltier's continued incarceration should be a national disgrace. Instead, he is living proof that the Project for the New American Century signed by Elliott Abrams, Gary Bauer, William J. Bennett, Jeb Bush, Dick Cheney, Eliot A. Cohen, Midge Decter, Paula Dobriansky, Steve Forbes, Aaron Friedberg, Francis Fukuyama, Frank Gaffney, Fred C. Ikle, Donald Kagan, Zalmay Khalilzad, I. Lewis Libby, Norman Podhoret, Dan Quayle, Peter W. Rodman, Stephen P. Rosen, Henry S. Rowen, Donald Rumsfeld, Vin Weber, George Weigel and Paul Wolfowitz has replaced The Constitution of the United States.


The Power and the Glory by Phil Ochs

Come and take a walk with me thru this green and growing land
Walk thru the meadows and the mountains and the sand
Walk thru the valleys and the rivers and the plains
Walk thru the sun and walk thru the rain

Here is a land full of power and glory
Beauty that words cannot recall
Oh her power shall rest on the strength of her freedom
Her glory shall rest on us all (on us all)

From Colorado, Kansas, and the Carolinas too
Virginia and Alaska, from the old to the new
Texas and Ohio and the California shore
Tell me, who could ask for more?

Yet she's only as rich as the poorest of her poor
Only as free as the padlocked prison door
Only as strong as our love for this land
Only as tall as we stand

But our land is still troubled by men who have to hate
They twist away our freedom & they twist away our fate
Fear is their weapon and treason is their cry
We can stop them if we try


Good thread, Liz.


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger & Leonard Peltier
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 03:49 AM

If he was innocent, he would be free. He murdered several people, so behind bars he will remain. Something reassuring about that. Do not delude yourself that calls from a 92 year man in his dotage will make a difference.


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger & Leonard Peltier
From: GUEST,999
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 04:00 AM

There may be something reassuring about that, Blues, but there's something very unsettling about the following:

http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/12/innocent-people-us-prisons


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Subject: RE: Pete Seeger & Leonard Peltier
From: GUEST,Bluesman
Date: 11 Mar 12 - 04:19 AM

I accept your point 999, but the evidence against him convinced a jury, that I accept.

He has become the object of leftist adoration because he is an American Indian activist who was convicted of the execution-style murders of FBI Special Agents Jack Coler and Ronald Williams.


Peltier has some dubious supporters, in the form of the black hate-preacher, Jeremiah Wright, who was for many years Obama's spiritual adviser, until the media exposed him as an anti-American hate-merchant.


In 2009, Thomas J. Harrington, FBI Executive Assistant Director in the Criminal, Cyber, Response, and Services Branch, testified in opposition to parole for Peltier, saying, "The intentional and vicious attack by Mr. Peltier was not simply a blatant attack on two FBI special agents; it was an attack on law enforcement as a whole—an attack on the rule of law. The inevitable haziness brought on by the passage of time does not diminish the brutality of the crimes or the lifelong torment to the surviving families. Those surviving families extend beyond the Coler and Williams' to the entire FBI family. Moderation or lenience in terms of Mr. Peltier's sentence can only signal disregard and disrespect to the law enforcement community as a whole, and to the families of Special Agents Coler and Williams."

By the way, is this Lizzie is back ? I thought she left.


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