BS: Asides (USA Politics)

Subject: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: Ebbie
Date: 01 May 12 - 03:25 PM

On Moveon.org a blogger named Lesley Burton wrote:
"Romney is the sacrificial lamb. The Republicans know they can't win the next election, indeed, I don't think they want to. They know there are NO easy solutions to what is happening in America and the rest of the World. They do not want to be held to their promises and ideas. Romney will lose, they can get rid of him once and for all and come back in 2016, when hopefully things will have started to get better (it's always a cycle) and they'll field an electable candidate. Just my humble opinion."

Now that is an interesting idea(Kind of the way I felt in the 2008 election).

Not considering the beliefs that some Catters have concerning the BIG PICTURE that US political outcomes are orchestrated and preordained by the men behind the curtain, do you think that may be the reason for the weak GOP candidate field? In my opinion, the lineup was farcical with just a couple of exceptions.

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: gnu
Date: 01 May 12 - 03:54 PM

No offense intended, but, no shit, Sherlock? It's been a circus of idiots.

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 May 12 - 10:17 PM

Yes, from the outside, the Republican candidates have been remarkably consistent in being apparently from other planets (although in different ways each time). But the "why?" of that is harder to synthesise. The idea that any politicians could be sagacious enough to elect for deferred gratification seems improbable.

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: Mrrzy
Date: 01 May 12 - 10:27 PM

I think they'd love to win, but hope to the bottom of my toes that they can't field anybody electable, which is wonderful. Maybe people *are* coming to their senses.

There was a very interesting article in the Outlook section to the Washington Post on Come on, stop pretending, it IS the Republican's fault. Not sure if that's the real title, but worth readong.

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: GUEST,999
Date: 01 May 12 - 10:51 PM

The article to which you refer is smart, clever and accurate.

http://cannonfire.blogspot.ca/2012/04/lets-face-it-republicans-really-are.html

That may be the one. There is another much like it that came out five or so days back. I notice the regular Republicans have spoken little lately. Wisest thing they've said in years.

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 May 12 - 04:21 AM

How about this one about Republicans trying to stop people being entitled to vote...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-gops-crackdown-against-those-who-would-vote/2012/04/30/gIQA49ldsT_story.html

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: Arkie
Date: 02 May 12 - 09:59 PM

Plus tons of money is being spent on the Republican cause.

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: Bobert
Date: 02 May 12 - 10:52 PM

It's not gonna be a good year for Republicans across the broad...

If that is what they want, however??? I donno... But I don't think so...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: Bev and Jerry
Date: 03 May 12 - 01:11 AM

We think it's simpler than that. The smarter republicans (oxymoron?) like Jeb Bush, Mitch Daniels, Chris Christie and Marco Rubio know the republicans can't win the 2012 presidential election so they stayed out of the race and are waiting for 2016 when there will be no incumbent. That leaves the detritus that actually believes they can win.

Bev and Jerry

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: Greg F.
Date: 03 May 12 - 08:48 AM

Oh, ye of little faith! Don't count the Repubs out yet.

"No one ever went broke underestimating the taste or intelligence of the American people."

- H.L. Mencken

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: Wesley S
Date: 03 May 12 - 10:32 AM

I'm still waiting to see Romney's birth certificate. How do we know he isn't a Muslim from Kenya? Or the Antichrist for that matter? Since he comes from one of those polygamous communes is Mexico he could be related to anybody. Even a socialist.

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: Bobert
Date: 03 May 12 - 10:33 AM

Tens of millions of out-of-state Super PAC money pouring into Wisconsin to try to beat back the recall of Scott Walker...

I'd say if Scott Walker goes down then the billion or so $$$ that the Republican Super PAC's will throw out there to defeat Obama won't work...

People aren't complete morons... No, some are...

B;~)

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: Midchuck
Date: 03 May 12 - 10:38 AM

I'm disenchanted with Obama, but can't bring myself to vote for anyone who thinks his underwear is magical. I guess I'll wait and see whom the Libertarians come up with.

It doesn't really matter, since O. is assured of a win in Vermont, and we're a winner-take-all state on electoral votes.

P.

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: Don Firth
Date: 03 May 12 - 01:26 PM

I, too, am somewhat disenchated with Obama, but I think he's basically okay. What he needs to do is read a lot about FDR, the New Deal and such--and take a lot of vitamins!

Don Firth

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: Bill D
Date: 03 May 12 - 01:42 PM

If the Republicans DO win, they will have to endure, along with the rest of us, 4 years of Romney..... and most never wanted Romney in the first place. They know Romney is likely to embarrass the party at least as much as GWB did....(and most of the rest of the world would rather have Obama)

I see this last 2 years of the "Parade of Clowns" as evidence that the GOP did not believe they were likely to beat Obama, and were letting the lunatic fringe battle it out. IF they manage to win, I'll bet there are serious discussions as to how to manage Romney.

In any case, I suspect there are a couple dozen half-sane Republicans making plans for 2016.

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: Elmore
Date: 04 May 12 - 10:39 AM

What Greg F. said above.

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: GUEST
Date: 04 May 12 - 12:33 PM

Despite the accomplishments of the Obama administration during the last three and a half years, if enough folks - disenchanted with the "Yes We Can" hopefulness (e.g., the LGBT community; the Occupiers; the unemployed; recent college grads who have outstanding loans but can't find a job; health care advocates who think ObamaCare didn't go far enough) that got Obama elected in the first place - decide to stay home or cast a protest vote for someone like Ron Paul, it may be enough for Romney to squeeze out a victory.

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: gnu
Date: 04 May 12 - 07:04 PM

Still in Afghanistan for over 2.5 years except for some "special forces"? Sigh.

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 04 May 12 - 10:45 PM

I'll just reiterate the following post I made over a year ago:

Subject: RE: BS: 2012 Presidential Election
From:Bee-dubya-ell - PM
Date: 17 Mar 11 - 08:55 AM

The deciding factor in the 2012 election will be how many of the people who voted for Obama in 2008 don't vote at all in 2012. Who the Republicans nominate is irrelevant. He'll receive about the same number of votes as John MCain did in 2008. But if Obama's 2008 supporters stay home in large enough droves, that'll be enough.

Subject: RE: BS: Asides (USA Politics)
From: Greg F.
Date: 05 May 12 - 09:08 AM

...a couple dozen half-sane Republicans...

Oh yeah? Name 'em. I don't know of any.