screw youtube

Subject: screw youtube
From: olddude
Date: 11 May 12 - 02:22 PM

My song lightning road, completely original 100,000 hits, 50,000 downloads on soundclicki .. youtube pulled it because I used a public domain photo of popcorn sutton ... public domain photo !!!


screw em, I am done there

Dan

Subject: RE: screw youtube
From: olddude
Date: 11 May 12 - 02:23 PM

Heaven forbid that some unknown folkie like me could get those kinds of number huh ... they can't have that, may step on some music industry toes,   laughing babies well that is ok

crap

Subject: RE: screw youtube
From: GUEST,999
Date: 11 May 12 - 02:27 PM

Fuck 'em, Dan.

What a bunch of shitheads. You wanna take them on? If so, I'm with you. Lemme know.

Subject: RE: screw youtube
From: olddude
Date: 11 May 12 - 02:30 PM

You bet Bruce, I wouldn't bother fighting with them. I will just wait until until one of the music companies steps on my registered copyright then I will be the one doing the wacking ... fuck em

Subject: RE: screw youtube
From: olddude
Date: 11 May 12 - 02:34 PM

On top of that I either have to constantly police the thing to keep the creeps from posting dirt on the videos or I have to lock it up so tight that no one can see the videos ... done with it all. People ask me what happened to your videos or so an so's video ... because of this crap

Subject: RE: screw youtube
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 12 May 12 - 04:50 AM

A fairly large group of people have reported similar difficulties with both Facebook and YouTube. If anything the reports for YouTube have been more erratic than even the lunacy at Facebook, although it would be difficult to say which deserves greater concern.

The explanation given is that both use "automated algorithms" to detect "objectionable or illegal" postings and to take "appropriate action." Especially on YouTube there appears to be a tendency to tweak the algorithms in response to each "error" with no consideration for what new errors the tweak will produce, with the result that overall response resembles that of a barnyard cat with a string of firecrackers tied to its tail.

The conclusion is that:

"Artificial Intelligence produces artificial results"

or in more basic language:

"There ain't nobody in charge."

John

Subject: RE: screw youtube
From: Will Fly
Date: 12 May 12 - 05:39 AM

Yes, I'm getting increasingly fed up with YouTube - not because they pull my stuff but because of the pop-up ads which they think are appropriate, and because they're forever changing the format of things, and not always for the better. They also keep buggering about with the sound-to-video synching - as you can see and hear here... damned annoying.

I prefer Vimeo as a hosting site - better quality and a nicer format - but YouTube gets more exposure. I have over 300 videos on the Tube, but I'm very tempted to buy more server space from my internet host and do my own thing.

We'll see...

Subject: RE: screw youtube
From: GUEST,999
Date: 12 May 12 - 07:35 AM

Nothing can go worng!

Subject: RE: screw youtube
From: Leadfingers
Date: 12 May 12 - 07:45 AM

Go wrong Go wrong Go wrong Go wrong Go wrong Go wrong - - - -

Subject: RE: screw youtube
From: fat B****rd
Date: 12 May 12 - 07:51 AM

I know precious little technical about You Tube, but, if they are f***ing with Mr. Dan - Transatlantic Friend and Watchmeister -then they are a**ing for trouble.
Charlie.

Subject: RE: screw youtube
From: GUEST,999
Date: 12 May 12 - 09:11 AM

That's what I said, Terry. Nothing can go worng, go worng, go worng . . .

Subject: RE: screw youtube
From: GUEST,999
Date: 12 May 12 - 09:41 AM

Dan, I will call you later today. This YouTube thing is really pissing me off. If we let this pass, we are no better than people who hear a kid calling for help and ignore the cry.

You have been a damned good friend to so many people on and off Mudcat, me included, that it's a wrong that needs to be redressed. The only reason any of my stuff is on YouTube is due to you. So, listen up bro: start thinking. I'm so damned mad at the moment I can't. Hey, your song had tens of thousands of hits. You had permission to use the photo. Fuck the bastards. Let's get this done, and I do not mean maybe.

Bruce

Subject: RE: screw youtube
From: Greg F.
Date: 12 May 12 - 10:06 AM

Problems with Farcebook and YewToob? Say it ain't so, Joe!! I thought "social media" was going to save the world. WTF????

Subject: RE: screw youtube
From: maeve
Date: 12 May 12 - 10:07 AM

"...it's a wrong that needs to be redressed." (Bruce)

Get 'em straightened out, gentlemen. Sorry you've had such a frustrations, Dan! The music and the musicians have value far beyond the constrictions of YT... and we do have other good options.

Maeve

Subject: RE: screw youtube
From: GUEST,olddude
Date: 12 May 12 - 10:14 AM

Going to make my own video site, got the knowledge and the server with the horsepower to house the stuff ... that is the solution. It seems they waited and waited, once I got 100K plays .. bam they turn it off.

nuts all of it

Subject: RE: screw youtube
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 12 May 12 - 01:27 PM

I take it you wouldn' t want to revise the video to eliminate the pic? Isuppose "Popcorn Sutton" is now a brand like Coca Cola and subject to the same restrictions. Shame. I hope you sell the song for a bundle and show em all.

Subject: RE: screw youtube
From: gnu
Date: 12 May 12 - 01:38 PM

Sorry to hear about this.

Subject: RE: screw youtube
From: Tootler
Date: 12 May 12 - 07:57 PM

I suspect there may have been a trade mark issue.

If the photo was PD and/or you had permission to use it, then you should challenge You Tube. I have found that it works when they flag up traditional songs as subject to copyright. It would probably help if you were to provide backup evidence.

I must admit that I tend to use my own photos in my You Tube videos as there is no problem with copyright then, though I have used photos which were either PD or had a creative commons license on a few videos. Mainly on some of the Woody Guthrie songs I posted.

Whatever the faults with You Tube, it's probably the best place to get exposure.

How about signing up with Vimeo, Dan?